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Guy Goodbody posted:Can I get some recommendations for good mouth sounds podcasts?
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Guy Goodbody posted:Can I get some recommendations for good mouth sounds podcasts? Do something useful and learn French with Michel Thomas.
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Mar 23, 2017 10:41
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Are there any other daily political/news podcasts other than The Daily?
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Mar 23, 2017 12:41
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Mike Pesca has The Gist, but I haven't listened to enough episodes to recommend/not recommend it and I think it dips into culture when politics has a slow day. Any NPR show that airs M-F might count? The full Crooked Media podcast family has to be close to daily at this point also, I would think.
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Mar 24, 2017 09:40
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There appears to be a podcast called the History of China podcast as opposed to the thread recommended China History podcast. Is this similarly named but distinct podcast any good?
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Mar 24, 2017 10:39
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Terrible Opinions posted:There appears to be a podcast called the History of China podcast as opposed to the thread recommended China History podcast. Is this similarly named but distinct podcast any good? As someone who studied Chinese history very seriously at one point, I find the History of China to be much much better Its your standard History of Rome knockoff that is based on primary sources, but the author lives in China, so he is well acquainted with the culture and nails the small things like name pronunciation Meanwhile, while I only listened to like tge first 7 episodes 5 years ago, the Chinese History Podcast is some dude who lives in San Fran and declared himself an expert after reading a bunch of books, some of them with dodgy standing as I recall WDIIA fucked around with this message at 11:54 on Mar 24, 2017 |
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Mar 24, 2017 11:50
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WDIIA posted:
The history of china is a good knockoff of History of Rome. The china history podcast is very different. The host is a business man who has lived and worked in china for years and still flies there very often. He makes no pretensions about being a serious historian and his interest clearly rest's in more modern times and in Chinese American relations. Check out his series on Zhou Enlai or on the Tongs of New York chinatowm for a good feel for his style. If you want a more historical and chronological podcast the history of china is the podcast for you.
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Mar 24, 2017 14:25
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Is that dude out of jail yet?
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Mar 24, 2017 14:48
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Gaius Marius posted:The history of china is a good knockoff of History of Rome. The china history podcast is very different. The host is a business man who has lived and worked in china for years and still flies there very often. He makes no pretensions about being a serious historian and his interest clearly rest's in more modern times and in Chinese American relations. Check out his series on Zhou Enlai or on the Tongs of New York chinatowm for a good feel for his style. If you want a more historical and chronological podcast the history of china is the podcast for you. it should be warned: the beginning episodes are extremely rough. like, not cutting out stumbling over words or occasional long pauses level of rough. i'm hoping chris improves as time goes on, but i haven't made it out of the 2014 episodes yet.
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Mar 24, 2017 15:37
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I started listening to History of the Crusades. Does she ever fix her drat audio?
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Apr 20, 2017 06:28
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Guy Goodbody posted:I started listening to History of the Crusades. Does she ever fix her drat audio? I got to the end of the second crusade and so far she hasn't.
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Apr 20, 2017 10:07
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Listening to the History of Venice Lesser Bonapartes series where Daniel comes back as guest host and boy do I wish he wasn't going to vanish again when I'm done with it.
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Apr 20, 2017 22:51
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Rodyle posted:Listening to the History of Venice Lesser Bonapartes series where Daniel comes back as guest host and boy do I wish he wasn't going to vanish again when I'm done with it. Thanks for letting us know that he reappeared, I'll check out that series Yeah, the chemistry between them is just so much better than any of the replacements
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Apr 20, 2017 22:54
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Guy Goodbody posted:I started listening to History of the Crusades. Does she ever fix her drat audio? Yes, she does. Hang in there, it's worth the pain!
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Apr 20, 2017 23:14
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Also, not that anyone in this thread isn't aware that Revolutions is great, but I'm really enjoying the current one on the July Revolution
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Apr 21, 2017 00:56
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I've fallen horribly behind on Revolutions. I think I checked out during the Haitian one because I just couldn't get a good grasp of the events. Apparently there's been a whole series on Bolivar while I was gone! I suppose the nice thing is that you can just jump into a new revolution.
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Apr 21, 2017 09:03
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The Haitian Revolution rules.
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Apr 21, 2017 16:12
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What's fun is when events in one revolution tags into another. French to Haitian happens a lot, but Haitian to Bolivar happens more often than you'd think too. And of course American helped caused the French by bankrupting Bourbon France. It's pretty interesting, all things considered.
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Apr 21, 2017 17:08
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jng2058 posted:What's fun is when events in one revolution tags into another. French to Haitian happens a lot, but Haitian to Bolivar happens more often than you'd think too. And of course American helped caused the French by bankrupting Bourbon France. It's pretty interesting, all things considered. Also, American -> French happens with some of the people, like Lafayette and Thomas Paine. And now that we're back in France for their next round, there's the Marquis de Lafayette again, ready to lead the guard he created one last time.  Hell, IIRC the English Civil War episodes have to go back and reference the Thirty Years War to explain why the various European powers were in no rush to get involved in yet another sectarian nightmare conflict. Actually on that note, are there any podcasts that really go into the Thirty Years' War? Echo Chamber posted:The Haitian Revolution rules. Holy poo poo Duncan's last episode on it is bleak though. Just a historical onslaught of the Haitian people getting hosed sideways by absolutely everyone for two centuries and counting.
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Apr 21, 2017 17:29
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I'm still in the camp that believes ANY DAY NOW the Haitian Revolution is going to be big. (Well, I've been kind of obsessed with it for like four years now.) Not unlike how the Gladiator movie launched a new wave of Rome-mania. Or how 2008-2012 was sort of big for Lincoln. And of course the past two years or so was kind of big for Hamilton for obvious reasons. I just think there's a bunch of cultural and political things going on now that makes the story more appealing. The story could be read as an indictment of white saviorism (despite newfound sympathy for people like Sonthonax) and the limits of cosmopolitan liberalism that seeks to "save" a crooked system rather than dismantle it. And how some people are now more receptive to narratives where violence openly played a crucial role in securing rights for people. And it's also the classic story of people doing cynical and audacious stuff to plot for power and then consolidate it. Give us a god drat movie or TV show already. Danny Glover isn't getting any younger.
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Apr 21, 2017 17:57
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Echo Chamber posted:I'm still in the camp that believes ANY DAY NOW the Haitian Revolution is going to be big. (Well, I've been kind of obsessed with it for like four years now.) Not unlike how the Gladiator movie launched a new wave of Rome-mania. Or how 2008-2012 was sort of big for Lincoln. And of course the past two years or so was kind of big for Hamilton for obvious reasons. I think a big part of it not getting much contemporary recognition is that Haiti's story doesn't really have a happy ending
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Apr 21, 2017 18:06
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Bohemian Nights posted:I think a big part of it not getting much contemporary recognition is that Haiti's story doesn't really have a happy ending But neither does the French Revolution. Because it has less effect on United States/Western European history and it just does not get the focus it deserves. The same for Bolivar (and really, all of Central and South American history). It still blows my mind that the Spanish Empire, the thing kicked off by Christopher Columbus, lasted all the way into the early-19th Century. I still catch myself occasionally thinking of Spain and going "When did that place go to poo poo?" and then remember that they were still a thing (if declining) when Thomas Jefferson was President.
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Apr 21, 2017 18:20
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Thwomp posted:But neither does the French Revolution. I'm thinking more status in 2017 than immediate aftermath, in which case the french revolution worked out terrifically well while Haiti has been hosed over by natural disasters and coups ever since
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Apr 21, 2017 18:22
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jng2058 posted:What's fun is when events in one revolution tags into another. French to Haitian happens a lot, but Haitian to Bolivar happens more often than you'd think too. And of course American helped caused the French by bankrupting Bourbon France. It's pretty interesting, all things considered. I always knew that the larger events had influenced the various revolutions, what I didn't realize was all the Liberal Revolutionaries seemed to know each other. Part of that is simply because people like Miranda and Talleyrand knew everybody, and all the nobility are each others' cousins, but it really feels like there was at most only a couple degrees of separation between any two of the major players
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Apr 21, 2017 18:35
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The part I especially love is the Hatians only learning about new governments after they've already fallen.
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Apr 21, 2017 18:42
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Mike has said he wasn't planning on doing the Chinese Revolution of 1911, because he says Asian history is one of his blind spots, but I wonder how much harder it'd be to skip it once the nationalism and socialism gears start turning. The people behind it were probably as well connected to other revolutionaries around the world as the people a century earlier were to each other.
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Apr 21, 2017 20:33
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Rodyle posted:The part I especially love is the Hatians only learning about new governments after they've already fallen. I loved the ones where a new faction would take control in Paris and dispatch a new governor to Haiti. Then that faction would inevitably get deposed and orders to completely ignore the new governor would also get dispatched, sometimes arriving in Haiti before the old new governor  Thwomp posted:It still blows my mind that the Spanish Empire, the thing kicked off by Christopher Columbus, lasted all the way into the early-19th Century. I still catch myself occasionally thinking of Spain and going "When did that place go to poo poo?" and then remember that they were still a thing (if declining) when Thomas Jefferson was President. The Portuguese empire technically only ended in 1999 when they handed Macau over to the Chinese government.
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Apr 21, 2017 21:04
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webmeister posted:I loved the ones where a new faction would take control in Paris and dispatch a new governor to Haiti. Then that faction would inevitably get deposed and orders to completely ignore the new governor would also get dispatched, sometimes arriving in Haiti before the old new governor Sometimes with orders to arrest the old new governor and send him back to stand trial for treason, inevitably to be released by the faction that overthrew the faction that wanted him to stand trial in the first place.
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Apr 21, 2017 23:19
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It's such a messy affair that I think I'd better understand it through a book instead of a podcast.
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Apr 22, 2017 08:30
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Probably yes. But Duncan does a good job narrating and keep all the threads cohesive and understandable. It's more of a credit to him that he could manage with such a large story. I never felt utterly lost listening to what he was saying and while I have no doubt there are a lot of players he doesn't or barely mentions I feel like he did a good job picking the main narrative and the important actors.
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Apr 22, 2017 08:47
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Yeah, to be clear, I am not saying it's Duncan's fault I couldn't get into Haiti.
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Apr 22, 2017 09:45
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To be honest, I had to re-listen to the first third with a map and wikipedia summary in front of me before I really understood what was going on. I actually haven't listened to any of the Bolivar stuff yet, is it good? I quit my office job and suddenly don't have 7-8 hours of commuting every week available to listen to podcasts!
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Apr 22, 2017 17:55
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webmeister posted:To be honest, I had to re-listen to the first third with a map and wikipedia summary in front of me before I really understood what was going on. I actually haven't listened to any of the Bolivar stuff yet, is it good? I quit my office job and suddenly don't have 7-8 hours of commuting every week available to listen to podcasts! if you're not already familiar with the geography of central america, you might want to break out the map again, but i found it a lot easier to follow, there's a much smaller cast of major players
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Apr 22, 2017 18:00
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Granted, with the Haiti stuff, you could ignore most of the commissions and still get the gist of the main story, which was about the revolutionaries and factions in the colony. Like, the only Metropol characters I think I really worth remembering if you're trying to remember the broad strokes are Sonthonax, Hédouville, Leclerc, and Rochambeau. Before listening to Duncan's narrative, when reading about the Revolution on my own, I didn't really worry which character was from which numbered commission or expedition. While listening to it, Duncan made clear how both the ripples coming from both sides of the Atlantic affected the other, but I still didn't concern too much with "The 1st Commission did this. The 3rd Commission did that." You really just need to know that at different points, different factions in the colony were more favored by the Metropol than others.
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Apr 22, 2017 18:02
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Did Mike Duncan ever address the Mexican War of Independence? I don't remember him talking about it as part of the Spanish-American series, and we're past it chronologically, so I'm wondering if he said anything about skipping it entirely.
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Apr 26, 2017 15:40
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I seem to recall him mentioning that he would cover it in time. After the russian revolution maybe?
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Apr 26, 2017 16:35
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Goon Danton posted:Did Mike Duncan ever address the Mexican War of Independence? I don't remember him talking about it as part of the Spanish-American series, and we're past it chronologically, so I'm wondering if he said anything about skipping it entirely.
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Apr 26, 2017 16:47
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Karanas posted:I seem to recall him mentioning that he would cover it in time. After the russian revolution maybe? has he said when he's going to cover Russia?
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Apr 27, 2017 03:05
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i was under the impression he's been going in roughly chronological order?
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Is the 10 Presidents podcast finished? The only thing they have done in 8 months or so is the Grant episode and they treated it as an "extra". I'm pretty good at counting to 10 and I sure don't reach 10 when looking at the eps 
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