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anonumos posted:Tap water doesn't disrupt poo poo. We've spent decades neglecting public water systems (see Flint) to the point that actual clean water from a privately owned fountain is seen as better. A overwhelming majority of the water supply in the US is potable (Flint is an exception for obvious reason, so are also some rural communities) and the only reason you believe otherwise is due to Coca Cola and Nestle lobbying the poo poo out of you over a decade ago to convince you otherwise. You're not living in a third-world country. Shooting Blanks posted:Plus, the amount of waste created by bottled water is incredible (between production, bottling, and distribution), not to mention the effect on aquifers supporting the bottling plants and the locales they should be serving. I see people in the grocery store buying cases of bottled water each week - out of convenience, lack of faith in city water, who knows. Yeah, his product isn't exactly novel but if he can cut down on bottled water consumption that's a good thing. How hard is it to re-use plastic bottles? They're easy to clean, lightweight and durable. He's literally peddling a solution to a problem that does not exist to stupid people.
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Water filters has been around for ages, if tap water where you live is not drinkable
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A lot of people don't reuse them though? Also ya most water in America is perfectly fine and even if you hate it, a home grade RO unit that puts the little special faucet on your sink is like a couple hundred bux and way more convenient
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Whenever I am in a big city, my first worry is always death by dehydration. Thankfully some brilliant minds have come up with a solution.
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fishmech posted:Not in major cities like NYC, where they're trying to operate though? Hell, people get water bottled from NYC's taps because they think it's special for cooking or health even. drat, that's the same thing they installed at work here, probably several hundred of them. Once the optical sensors worked consistently, they were pretty convenient.
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fishmech posted:Or you know, all those water fountain upgrades you see around major cities where the normal water fountain gets an explicit free water container filler added on the back: the girls are pretty cute so now im considering buying one of those fountains too
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Solkanar512 posted:drat, that's the same thing they installed at work here, probably several hundred of them. Once the optical sensors worked consistently, they were pretty convenient. They have them in SFO past security, which is really awesome; bring an empty bottle through, turn it into a full bottle before you board the plane.
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It's not even such an original disruptive idea, in Thailand they have these RO water stations all over the place and you just refill you container for a subscription of a few cents per liter:
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mobby_6kl posted:a few cents per liter:  You will never disrupt anything at those prices.
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withak posted:
But if you increase the price you might turn into a profitable business and that just isn't disruptive at all! 
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The funniest part to me is New York City already has public water sampling stations, in part to help ensure quality drinking water. http://www.nyc.gov/html/dep/html/drinking_water/sampling.shtml (This is in addition to those new water fountains, which are the BEST). e: actually, looks like most are not publicly accessible. never mind!
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mobby_6kl posted:It's not even such an original disruptive idea, in Thailand they have these RO water stations all over the place and you just refill you container for a subscription of a few cents per liter: We used Watermill Express when I lived in Watsonville CA in a house that had awful plumbing, essentially the same as the fountains at some supermarkets but was way cheaper. The migrant farm workers without plumbing also used the stations. http://www.watermillexpress.com
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Tars Tarkas posted:We used Watermill Express when I lived in Watsonville CA in a house that had awful plumbing, essentially the same as the fountains at some supermarkets but was way cheaper. The migrant farm workers without plumbing also used the stations. That's, uh, very Third World.
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So that thing in the Bahamas was a talent agency startup promo https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/company-behind-disastrous-fyre-festival-warned-staff-not-to-come?utm_source=mbtwitter
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Does this belong here? (Elon Musk's Boring Company) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5V_VzRrSBI
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Okan170 posted:Does this belong here? (Elon Musk's Boring Company) what will dahir insaat come up with next
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Okan170 posted:Does this belong here? (Elon Musk's Boring Company) -i like the implication there's a car sized hole in the street while that elevator is in operation -so they've invented a subway you can drive onto
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literally less efficient, more expensive mass transit upscaled for the automotive mode somehow even less practical than the flying car
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Okan170 posted:Does this belong here? (Elon Musk's Boring Company) I literally can't wait for this too ruin City infrastructure while they attempt to bore a test tunnel.
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Lawman 0 posted:I literally can't wait for this too ruin City infrastructure while they attempt to bore a test tunnel. I think Uber should start a competing firm and bore test tunnels without pulling permits or using licensed contractors.
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It's a good thing that there are never any earthquakes anymore.
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Now we know why those long ruined megacities in the matrix had miles of tunnels and tubes everywhere.
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Just asking for reasons totally unrelated to the blue-checked CEO of Box - is it considered "bad form" in Silicon Valley to have obviously paid for the vast majority of your bad, repetitious Twitter feed's followers?
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Okan170 posted:Does this belong here? (Elon Musk's Boring Company) Because the Big Dig in Boston was such a loving cinch.
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They looked at seattle's boring machine and thought "ONLY one major incident? Well, obviously by the time this is approved we will have better boring technology, which means no more major incidences!"
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Rhesus Pieces posted:Because the Big Dig in Boston was such a loving cinch. Was the Dig dug?
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Yeah it sounds like there's no room for new tech or processes in tunnel digging, we've got that one licked up good.
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exploded mummy posted:what will dahir insaat come up with next I watched this video without reading the description and my first thought was wow Dahir Insaat has really let their production values slide.
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ShadowHawk posted:Yeah it sounds like there's no room for new tech or processes in tunnel digging, we've got that one licked up good. I don't know if you noticed, but Elon Musk hasn't proposed any improved technology or processes for making tunnels.
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fishmech posted:I don't know if you noticed, but Elon Musk hasn't proposed any improved technology or processes for making tunnels.
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fishmech posted:I don't know if you noticed, but Elon Musk hasn't proposed any improved technology or processes for making tunnels. Uh, we already know how to bore through the earth to make tunnels.
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enraged_camel posted:Uh, we already know how to bore through the earth to make tunnels. It's a long, disruptive and hideously expensive process, especially for as long a distance as has been proposed. It's not completely infeasible, but we're having a hard enough time just getting high speed rail together. Getting a tunnel like that together in any reasonable budget or time is not feasible without some major boring improvements.
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Regarding the Fyre festival (that mega-lovely festival in the Bahamas), this is probably the most telling piece about it. By a talent producer for the festival who quit several weeks ago when the writing was on the wall. Startup indeed. http://nymag.com/thecut/2017/04/fyre-festival-exumas-bahamas-disaster.html quote:On Wednesday, Ja Rule arrived for a “site visit.” I don’t know if he actually visited the “site” but he did spend a lot of time on a yacht, according to his Instagram. Meanwhile the event planners were holed up indoors putting together a game plan and a budget. With so little having been prepared ahead of time, the official verdict was that it would take $50 million to pull off. Planners also warned that it would be not be up to the standard they had advertised. The best idea, they said, would be to roll everyone’s tickets over to 2018 and start planning for the next year immediately. They had a meeting with the Fyre execs to deliver the news. A guy from the marketing team said, “Let’s just do it and be legends, man.”  quote:The artists still hadn’t been paid. It was my job to try and be charming while explaining to tour managers that no, there still was no money or a technical director for the festival. There was, somehow, a secured alcohol sponsor, however. This whole thing was playing out as a hilarious disaster. It was clear to most of us that nothing was going to come together at this rate.
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Dirk the Average posted:It's a long, disruptive and hideously expensive process, especially for as long a distance as has been proposed. It's not completely infeasible, but we're having a hard enough time just getting high speed rail together. Getting a tunnel like that together in any reasonable budget or time is not feasible without some major boring improvements. That's exactly why this has promise. Americans simply hate public transport. There are lots of reasons for this, but mainly it's because people love their privacy and don't want to deal with or be within close proximity of strangers if they can help it. Especially if said strangers are likely to be from a lower socio-economic class than them. That's why a company that bores tunnels for autonomous cars makes a lot of sense. Maybe not realistic, but I'd argue it's more realistic than wide-spread public transport.
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enraged_camel posted:That's exactly why this has promise. Uh, what, is this a joke? The concept doesn't have promise, because it's ludicrously over-complicated and would involve costs that could easily run into trillions to cover a city, considering how much money either drill-tunneling with minimal aboveground disruption or cut-and-cover with the attendant massive surface level problems would cost. And when you restrict it to only what you can build for a few billion, it barely connects anywhere and thus can't really be used. That's not to mention all the costs of running ventilation systems, keeping the tunnels maintained, handling a payment infrastructure, etc. It's just an idea ol Elon farted out because he got mad at traffic. Americans "hate" public transport largely because large swathes of the country have none of it, and another large swathe has it barely functional, usually on the order of stuff like "the county has one bus line, and it runs 3 times in the morning and 3 times in the evening, weekdays only". Americans in places with functioning transit use it a ton when it's possible, even though they might bitch about it a alot - after all, all the car commuters bitch about traffic too.
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enraged_camel posted:That's why a company that bores tunnels for autonomous cars makes a lot of sense. Maybe not realistic, but I'd argue it's more realistic than wide-spread public transport. mass transit for people in cars is an order of magnitude less realistic than mass transit for people not in cars. mass transit for cars right now is called highways, and they get congested, and people hate that. the only ways to avoid congestion are to expensively overbuild, or gate your system so that it's under capacity. the automatic car subway that costs $50 to use so it's not crowded would potentially be profitable but is not a solution to any problem except "how do i, as a rich man, isolate myself from the plebs"
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Americans are far more sociable culturally than, say, Scandinavians, yet Scandinavian countries have plenty of excellent public transport, so the "Americans don't like sitting next to strangers" theory just doesn't ring true. What America does have is loads and loads of sprawl built for the idyllic family of four with two cars because everyone wants their own house, yard and garage. This sort of thing also leads to ridiculous conceptual dead-ends like flying cars. If you live in the city you're poor (and not white) or filthy rich, and if public transportation is only for poor people, no one will want to pay for it, so it's bad. In NYC everyone uses the subway to get to work, so they actually invest in it. This phenomenon is also why means-tested welfare is always on shaky political ground. If everyone receives a certain benefit, it's far less likely to get the axe than something explicitly directed at poor people, like food stamps.
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i absolutely loathe driving and it sucks how the high speed rail for boston doesn't go out further than it does. especially since boston is such a trash city to drive to/drive in.
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Antti posted:What America does have is loads and loads of sprawl built for the idyllic family of four with two cars because everyone wants their own house, yard and garage. Let's not forget the significant government policies that incentivised sprawl, and the racism. Oh the racism.
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