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Poque posted:I think it's working well that they're being asked to help create narrative rather than just react to narrative. Clint is a lot more creative than I would've given him credit for in the previous arcs! I think is a pretty good way to put it. He has a hard time doing anything meaningful when just trying to further someone else's narrative, but given the freedom to create his own for a bit, he's doing great. I've never disliked Clint or anything, I've just felt that he hasn't been able to do much, and is kind of hamstrung by expectations set by the way to brothers interact with one another.
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creationist believer posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U0blDjQ2Gg the goomba mass is more repulsive and horrifying than anything in car boys
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These episodes of TAZ have been real boring. I don't give a single poo poo about the system, I'm just bored.
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myron cope posted:These episodes of TAZ have been real boring. I don't give a single poo poo about the system, I'm just bored. ok
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God what was that lovely awful music they played in the middle of car boys? Very fitting for the lovely awful blob I guess
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I am finding this arc exceedingly difficult to get through. I recently listened to the donor bonus episode with the sandcastle dungeon and the difference is stark. It's full of goofs, fun, and interaction. I'm really growing weary of Griffin's massive exposition dumps that started in The Crystal Kingdom. This arc takes it to a new level - all these rich, intricate world he created with almost nothing for the players to actually do.
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Colonel Whitey posted:God what was that great music they played in the middle of car boys? Very fitting for the great blob I know this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APIKVLw1tT0
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Typically with good fantasy (or even good storytelling in general) is to start with your world-building and narrow the focus as you approach the endpoint of your story. Griffin's decision to backlog all the exposition is really dragging down the show, and drastically reducing the amount of goofage in a comedy podcast. I hope the next campaign is better about this.
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Apr 28, 2017 18:42
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X-Ray Pecs posted:Typically with good fantasy (or even good storytelling in general) is to start with your world-building Actually, you should start with a story idea, and think about how the world fits that. Just lol at "world-bulding"
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myron cope posted:These episodes of TAZ have been real boring. I don't give a single poo poo about the system, I'm just bored. cool
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Poque posted:gotcha, thanks guys. Barry still didn't have to be such a dingus about it, but I won't put any more thought into it. There's a line in the last Lunar Interlude where the character in question says he had to play a part he didn't want to when interacting with the boys, so that they wouldn't get too close to remembering that they and Barry used to be friends and former crewmates. Also recall that the Director has an alarm system set up in the baby voidfish chamber that rings when someone tries to remember the information that was fed to the baby (I think?), presumably so she could keep track of whatever Barry's doing.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Actually, you should start with a story idea, and think about how the world fits that. Fair enough. I probably should have said that exposition, if needed, should be front-loaded so you don't end up with, say, your characters hurtling towards the climax suddenly taking a momentum-killing time-out to pal around with some aliens that really don't make a huge difference in the grand scheme of the story. You know, like Return of the Jedi.
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I think Travis's response when he instantly agreed to let the mushroom planet people die sums up this arc - nothing matters and there are so far no real consequences. How are we supposed to care about any of this?
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Colonel Whitey posted:God what was that lovely awful music they played in the middle of car boys? Very fitting for the lovely awful blob I guess your taste is inverted, in that you think Car Boys is good and music from Paprika is bad that song is the only good thing in the video
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Alaois posted:your taste is inverted, in that you think Car Boys is good and music from Paprika is bad Lol
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dantheman650 posted:I think Travis's response when he instantly agreed to let the mushroom planet people die sums up this arc - nothing matters and there are so far no real consequences. How are we supposed to care about any of this? Literally the very next words out of his mouth are about how that's not true. Did you stop listening at that exact sentence?
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myron cope posted:These episodes of TAZ have been real boring. I don't give a single poo poo about the system, I'm just bored. I've just stopped bothering with the podcast until they move on to a new setting. At least there's still plenty of other good McElroy content.
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dantheman650 posted:I think Travis's response when he instantly agreed to let the mushroom planet people die sums up this arc - nothing matters and there are so far no real consequences. How are we supposed to care about any of this? Who What Now posted:Literally the very next words out of his mouth are about how that's not true. Did you stop listening at that exact sentence? Also Griffin has repeatedly said that their choices and actions in this story, as well as the tools and plot stuff they find here are gonna tie in heavily in the final "Fight the Hunger" arc. In the mean time, it gives us a look into Tres Horny Boys we couldn't get otherwise where they're young and scarred by the events that, so far as we've seen, defined who they were on the adventure up until now while also letting the whole family get to do some character and world building that's already lead to some great moments for each of them. All of that on top of expanding on what the relics and Hunger are and giving us some characterization for Barry, Lup, Davenport and Lucrecia. Also  at this post right heredantheman650 posted:I am finding this arc exceedingly difficult to get through. I recently listened to the donor bonus episode with the sandcastle dungeon and the difference is stark. It's full of goofs, fun, and interaction. I'm really growing weary of Griffin's massive exposition dumps that started in The Crystal Kingdom. This arc takes it to a new level - all these rich, intricate world he created with almost nothing for the players to actually do. Because Griffin and the other players have all said they've taken it in a lot of directions that Griffin just didn't plan as recently as TTAZZ 2 and also because "God Griffin is just setting up plot and not letting the boys do anything with the world he made" feels like a really disingenuous complaint when talking about the current arc which is "Griffin provides a skeleton of a setting and the boys take turns filling in the gaps while also doing character stuff." ZenMasterBullshit fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Apr 28, 2017 |
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The "boys take turns" thing is the entire problem for me. The system discourages interaction by having each character do something separately (or with an NPC at most). That means there's long periods of Griffin talking to himself, then Griffin talking to one of the others one-on-one. Ultimately this is a temporary thing so it won't matter too much, but i can completely understand why people are zoning out on these episodes. The system leaves a lot less room for moments like the poison gas plants, Taako summoning a horse, saving Magnus' soul in the astral plane etc, and those are really the bits I listen for.
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Not really feeling this TAZ arc, either. Probably would have been fine if it stuck to the plan of just being a couple episodes, since there have been a couple decent moments. But since we're not even a quarter of the way through it, I'm not interested in listening to Griffin describe fantasy world concepts that will never be seen or heard from again for another 6 episodes or whatever its going to take. It also has the universal problem all prequels suffer from: since we already know how the Stolen Century ends, there aren't any stakes. Deport The Irish fucked around with this message at 04:00 on Apr 29, 2017 |
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Yeah, this latest arc has plenty pf problems, but railroading isn't one of them. Absolutely nothing that happened in the latest epiosde would have happened if one of the three of them had not specifically set out to do it. EDIT: Oh yeah, I also wanted to say that it never ceases to amaze me how good of a physics simulator BeamNG.Drive is when you aren't intentionally pushing it past its limits. When they had the wind blowing at a moderate speed against the blob, it rolled pretty much exactly how you would expect it to roll in real life. That's incredible, especially considering how complicated the blob object must be. Ariong fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Apr 28, 2017 |
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Just lol if you don't love car boys
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X-Ray Pecs posted:Fair enough. I probably should have said that exposition, if needed, should be front-loaded so you don't end up with, say, your characters hurtling towards the climax suddenly taking a momentum-killing time-out to pal around with some aliens that really don't make a huge difference in the grand scheme of the story. You know, like Return of the Jedi. Griffin's main intake of adventure stories is from video games. It's not great storytelling structure, but it is exactly what videogames do. Likely because it's player driven and developers want to stay out of players' ways and have them invested before dumping the backstory. It's not really an excuse, but Griffin's never really written fiction before and his inspirations show.
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Have they rolled a failure on anything yet? I guess Griffin's a little gun shy after the suffering game but I don't think partial success is "You get to do what you wanted after talking some more"
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Merle failed to communicate with the robot people, but they used an asset to upgrade that to a mixed success.
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SoupyTwist posted:Have they rolled a failure on anything yet? I guess Griffin's a little gun shy after the suffering game but I don't think partial success is "You get to do what you wanted after talking some more" Magnus rolled a six and it caused him to follow a strategy guide written by Kenny Rogers.
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Blockhouse posted:burning myself on all the blazing hot takes in this thread People explaining why they don't like things as much as previous entries in the series are absolutely issuing the hottest of hot takes.
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Blockhouse posted:burning myself on all the blazing hot takes in this thread So far everybody who has expressed their dissatisfaction with the latest TAZ arc has done so in a clear and reasoned manner. The people trying to drop sick burns in response are kind of lame though.
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Ariong posted:So far everybody who has expressed their dissatisfaction with the latest TAZ arc has done so in a clear and reasoned manner. The people trying to drop sick burns in response are kind of lame though. oh I mean the car boys stuff I should have clarified
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There is a new Touch The Skyrim and the thumbnail looks like nightmare fuel and I can't wait https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U0blDjQ2Gg
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do you want me to go into a deep philosophical treatise about how I personally don't find Car Boys to be very entertaining and how that guy is extremely stupid for thinking that song from Paprika is bad or what are you expecting of me
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I mean hearing that song just made me want to go watch paprika again. That movie's great.
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Alaois posted:do you want me to go into a deep philosophical treatise about how I personally don't find Car Boys to be very entertaining and how that guy is extremely stupid for thinking that song from Paprika is bad or what are you expecting of me yeah that's fine that's pretty much what I wanted
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Most things are good.
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poor life choice posted:Most things are good. Uh, let me tell you about a little something called Strugeon's Law and how wait no don't go my negativity and smugness are endearing
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Alaois posted:do you want me to go into a deep philosophical treatise about how I personally don't find Car Boys to be very entertaining and how that guy is extremely stupid for thinking that song from Paprika is bad or what are you expecting of me Yes please explain how that lovely music is good, I like to laugh
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