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What hot hatch do you own? This poll is closed. |
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| Golf GTI / R / R32 |
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196 | 0.02% |
| Impreza WRX / STi |
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133 | 0.01% |
| Mazdaspeed 3 |
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92 | 0.01% |
| Veloster Turbo |
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20 | 0.00% |
| Focus ST |
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149 | 0.01% |
| Other Hot Hatch |
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230 | 0.02% |
| Elantra GT |
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1000001 | 99.92% |
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I wish everyone in the US wasn't a fat gently caress with 12 kids. Then maybe we'd get some of the cool cars the ROW gets.
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Apr 29, 2017 19:08
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It's not that a 1 series hatch wouldn't sell here. ...It wouldn't sell at the price point they want.
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Apr 29, 2017 19:48
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 Took my first big drive with the RS. 24 MPG is way better than I expected, considering it had some city driving and about an hour of stop and go traffic. My mustang averaged 19 mpg over its lifespan, so this feels like an achievement.
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Apr 30, 2017 05:32
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I don't think I've ever broken 20 in my RS, so you must have a light foot. Stop driving it wrong.
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Apr 30, 2017 05:33
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KillHour posted:I don't think I've ever broken 20 in my RS, so you must have a light foot. I mean... not much point in flooring it so I can get to the next stop light 3 seconds faster. OR IS THERE?
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Apr 30, 2017 05:45
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SerCypher posted:I mean... not much point in flooring it so I can get to the next stop light 3 seconds faster. You...you may have bought the wrong car 
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Apr 30, 2017 05:46
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Cellular Suicide posted:You...you may have bought the wrong car I wanted a practical 4 door hatchback. The dealer said the RS stood for 'Really Safe'
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Apr 30, 2017 06:20
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Here's a silly question What would be the bottom of the barrel budget used hot hatch. Something that could be bought for chump change but still have some fun and life in it. Some friends and I have decided to pool our funds and buy a junker this summer and do a stupid Mighty Car Mods style build on it. My first suggestion was an NA Miata but that was shot down so we're thinking a hatchback.
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Apr 30, 2017 07:00
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There's not a ton out there, but SVT Focus? Should be able to snag one for a few grand. Is that bottom of the barrel?
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Apr 30, 2017 08:29
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Or maybe an old civic si?
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Apr 30, 2017 12:46
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Rhyno posted:Here's a silly question Well there's the matrix xrs/Pontiac vibe gt, it's got a 6 speed manual and the 2zz that revs to over 8k. There's some stuff available for the 2zz, but definitely a car that would benefit dramatically from weight reduction. SVT focus is a good one, though if you're planning on a junkyard turbo build maybe a regular focus with the lower compression motor would last longer?
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Apr 30, 2017 14:41
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Fiat 500 Abarth is the answer.
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Apr 30, 2017 15:17
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GutBomb posted:Fiat 500 Abarth is the answer. I get the feeling this is a joke, but I drove one of these and really liked it. I'll likely be in the market for a hot hatch in a few months and this was my front runner, whats the catch on the abarth?
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Apr 30, 2017 15:37
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I can say that the SVT Focus I had was pretty cool. I really liked the gearbox for whatever reason. The big issue with it IMO is that it is an interference engine, so if you lose the timing belt like I did... I commuted in it, dailied it and generally drove the piss out of it, it never complained until one day when it just gave up the ghost and my wife told me to go buy something that wasn't < $4k. It was pretty fun to drive on backwoods dirt roads too, and was a pretty stout car in my experience with respect to potholes, gravel, minor encounters with stationary objects, etc. I paid $3200 with about 140k miles, put 500-ish dollars into fixing some suspension and sensor stuff, and then it was good to go.
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Apr 30, 2017 16:07
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ADINSX posted:I get the feeling this is a joke, but I drove one of these and really liked it. I'll likely be in the market for a hot hatch in a few months and this was my front runner, whats the catch on the abarth? It's not a joke. It's so fun and sooooo cheap because it's resale value tanked more than most cars. I've seen used ones available for $8,000. I guess the catch is that it isn't practical in the least.
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Apr 30, 2017 16:10
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GutBomb posted:It's not a joke. It's so fun and sooooo cheap because it's resale value tanked more than most cars. I've seen used ones available for $8,000. Oh ok then. I didn't realize the resale tanked so hard. I was looking for a new one but if I could find a gently used one (yeah right) then that's even better. Practicality doesn't concern me too much, I owned a yaris hatchback for years and loved it (I realize the abarth is even smaller).
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Apr 30, 2017 16:14
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Lol, I'd love an Abarth but we're looking at probably $1500 for the initial car purchase if not less. A ZX3 Focus did come up as an option. There's a Protege 5 with a blown motor for $500 nearby and we thought maybe a BP swap. Just looking for ideas right now.
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Apr 30, 2017 16:19
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The ZX3 Focuses are a really good cost:fast ratio for autocross. They are exceptionally dominant in STF in the local scene, usually for under $400/yr on total race budget.
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Apr 30, 2017 17:11
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B16 swapped EK/EG hatch.
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Apr 30, 2017 17:14
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Seat Safety Switch posted:The ZX3 Focuses are a really good cost:fast ratio for autocross. They are exceptionally dominant in STF in the local scene, usually for under $400/yr on total race budget. And if you can't find a zx3, there is the zts focus that had the same 2.3 duratec (qualified as a pzev, and as a side effect of the higher efficiency hey guess what more power). I remember c&d talking about what a bargain it was, and wasn't being marketed as a sporty version.
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Apr 30, 2017 17:40
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Seat Safety Switch posted:The ZX3 Focuses are a really good cost:fast ratio for autocross. They are exceptionally dominant in STF in the local scene, usually for under $400/yr on total race budget. I loved my old ZX5. Grey, 2002. It only had 130HP and took something lime nine seconds from 0-60, but handled really well for an economy car. I think it had a multiliknk rear suspension instead of a torsion arm?
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Apr 30, 2017 17:45
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Ludicro posted:I was referring more to the fact the current Mini hatch isn't much smaller than say a Golf, but the latter has way more room inside. Minis never make sense on paper and even when you drive them, it's an acquired taste. The new ones feel like a much more solid car than the old ones, but they aren't quite as fun. The new 2.0 turbo is smooth and torquey, but the engine itself just seems kind of heavy and dull.
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Apr 30, 2017 18:27
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I had a zts and it handled shockingly well, but kinda fell apart. Had to replace all 4 wheel bearings, had a spring break in half, lots of other little annoying poo poo, but could have been because it was a rusty Northeast car.
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Apr 30, 2017 18:37
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Geo Storm GSI, Suzuki Swift GTi
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Apr 30, 2017 20:31
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TheGoatTrick posted:The Mini hatch is 17" shorter than a 2-door Golf. The gigantic new Clubman is exactly the same length as a 4-door Golf. Yeah the interior of the current Mini is absolutely top class, way better than the overly plastic ones of its predecessors. It's also been three years since the F56 debuted and there appears to be no major reliability issues cropping up yet. Having driven an F56 Cooper S I have to say it's very fast and fun to drive, but is perhaps a bit too refined and lacks the rough and ready pocket rocket feel of the R56 Cooper S. In any case, my partner and I want to start trying for a baby in the near future, so it came down to the 5 door Mini Hatch, the Mini Countryman, or a 5 door BMW 1 series. Bit of a no brainer really.
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Apr 30, 2017 22:44
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Seat Safety Switch posted:The ZX3 Focuses are a really good cost:fast ratio for autocross. They are exceptionally dominant in STF in the local scene, usually for under $400/yr on total race budget. This is definitely true in my experience. I had an '07 ZX4 with a few upgrades and it was pretty quick at auto-X (and fun everywhere), even with the standard engine. To bridge the SVT gap, there's a Ford Racing suspension kit with SVT shocks (and a choice of springs as of a couple years ago). It goes for about $300 right now. It's pretty dang good.
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May 1, 2017 12:32
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Does anyone remember when replacing a wing mirror was like £30, not £250?
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May 1, 2017 13:35
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Twozzok posted:Does anyone remember when replacing a wing mirror was like £30, not £250? Well, you could weld a compact onto my Impreza's passenger side and all you'd lose is the remote adjust. Our Fit has a camera in it, and the Forester has a heating element, and a blind-spot radar with a warning light.
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May 1, 2017 14:36
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FMIC upgrade and stratified e30 tune should be installed by end of week. Pretty jazzed 
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May 1, 2017 21:30
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Here's the current insanish proposal We buy THIS car https://southbend.craigslist.org/cto/6076385026.html (rusted to gently caress Mazdaspeed Protege) And drop the engine into a cleanish Protege5 which of course there are none to be found anywhere within a 100 miles all of a sudden. Option B is this beauty https://limaohio.craigslist.org/cto/6080089291.html (ragged SVT Focus)
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May 1, 2017 21:36
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Rhyno posted:Here's the current insanish proposal Someone was mentioning their MSP blew up recently in the chat thread. Maybe he wants to sell it as a roller?
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May 1, 2017 21:49
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Wow, there's a 2007 MS3 selling for five grand nearby. Bet that fucker is about ready to detonate.
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May 1, 2017 22:05
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Rhyno posted:Here's the current insanish proposal that svt focus could be decent, it'll take the front clip off a normal focus so you could clean it up pretty good on the cheap provided the guy isn't lying about the other poo poo, which he almost certainly is
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May 1, 2017 22:08
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$5k for mazdaspeed 3 if you can rebuild the engine yourself isn't bad. That $500 protege I'd buy and make for a community rallycross car.
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May 2, 2017 02:31
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PaintVagrant posted:FMIC upgrade and stratified e30 tune should be installed by end of week. Pretty jazzed I just got my 91 & 93 map file from Stratified and I wasn't expecting the noticeable difference in 1st gear, it actually pulls off the line now without having to short shift to 2nd to get any usable power.
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May 2, 2017 03:58
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Hansolio posted:I just got my 91 & 93 map file from Stratified and I wasn't expecting the noticeable difference in 1st gear, it actually pulls off the line now without having to short shift to 2nd to get any usable power. Sounds rad. I Will prob take some before and after vIrtual dynos and post them here.
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May 2, 2017 05:16
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Rhyno posted:Option B is this beauty I was considering an SVT Focus a few months back and did a bit of research. The major weakness of those cars is the timing belt, which should be changed every 80k miles or so - obviously it can last longer than that but that's risky. From what I gathered, it's a pretty tricky DIY job and since it's the only car to use that particular cylinder head (VVT on the intakes, regular Zetec didn't have that), not many mechanics have experience doing the job. So of course a few people had horror stories of a bad timing belt replacement resulting in a grenaded engine. People spoke pretty highly of them other than that, but it's something to consider. Definitely ask that guy about the belt replacement.
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May 2, 2017 06:37
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stranger danger posted:I was considering an SVT Focus a few months back and did a bit of research. The major weakness of those cars is the timing belt, which should be changed every 80k miles or so - obviously it can last longer than that but that's risky. From what I gathered, it's a pretty tricky DIY job and since it's the only car to use that particular cylinder head (VVT on the intakes, regular Zetec didn't have that), not many mechanics have experience doing the job. So of course a few people had horror stories of a bad timing belt replacement resulting in a grenaded engine. My SVT Focus was a ton of fun. If I found a clean one at a good price local I'd have a hard time not grabbing it. Got my new rental today, a Jeep Cherokee! Let's go muddin!
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May 2, 2017 15:13
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fknlo posted:My SVT Focus was a ton of fun. If I found a clean one at a good price local I'd have a hard time not grabbing it. Lucky. I got a freaking Chevy Malibu that smells really weird. This thing is a freaking boat and I hate it.
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May 2, 2017 16:21
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Etrips posted:Lucky. I got a freaking Chevy Malibu that smells really weird. This thing is a freaking boat and I hate it. I keep getting Nissans as rental cars. Nissans with CVTs as far as the eye can see, all the Nissans, Nissan100years.com. Got an entry-level Buick a few months ago and was thrilled because it had an actual planetary transmission. I've accepted it as a fact of life that I'm never gonna see a manual rental car in the US but it would be pretty cool to be able to do that... even a sucky car in manual tends to be more fun.
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