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get that OUT of my face posted:i'm so glad that the probable next state senator for harlem is the second guy down on this real estate development company and that he was basically put there on the democratic line (without a primary) because the president of the manhattan democrats wanted him there Tammany Hall, the fire that shall will never be extinguished. 
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get that OUT of my face posted:so is alex jones or some other crank declaring war on judges? like, more than there's been over the past couple decades? Alex Jones is too busy trying to legally prove he doesn't really believe lizardpeople are trying to make everyone into gay autists.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Tammany Hall, the fire that shall will never be extinguished. MizPiz posted:Alex Jones is too busy trying to legally prove he doesn't really believe lizardpeople are trying to make everyone into gay autists.
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there's a special election coming up in the 9th assembly district and there's a good chance to flip the seat to a Sanders Democrat. long story short: Pellegrino was a Sanders delegate last year (admittedly this doesn't mean so much as Alcantara was as well), she wasn't going to get the Democratic nomination for the election, she went to the Working Families Party, the Dems ended up choosing her to avoid humiliation and retribution from the WFP, she won't be getting much (or any) help from the local and state party, but she's got lots of union backing in a union-heavy district in Suffolk County the election is May 23rd. anyone out in the armpit of Long Island should consider volunteering for her campaign edit: the Suffolk County Dems aren't supporting her because the head of it is under investigation for fundraising irregularities. gg ny get that OUT of my face has issued a correction as of 04:21 on Apr 22, 2017 |
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Is anyone ITT in favor of a constitutional convention?
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Tweezer Reprise posted:what're the odds on uber operating anywhere in ulster Hopefully never because Uber's business practices are predatory as hell. I didn't know there were other people on SA from Ulster County
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GalacticAcid posted:Is anyone ITT in favor of a constitutional convention? Nope. That  is more dangerous than any benefit it can provide.
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That was my sense as well. The unions are firmly against it.
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GalacticAcid posted:That was my sense as well. The unions are firmly against it.
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Oh, dear. https://twitter.com/GannettAlbany/status/859202377194319872
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GalacticAcid posted:Is anyone ITT in favor of a constitutional convention? Absolutely. Also New King's Democrats are working with various other progressive clubs to have a Con Con.
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:Absolutely. Also New King's Democrats are working with various other progressive clubs to have a Con Con.
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it won't gently caress over anyone unless you just sit back and let it be run like NYC politics. In fact it has great potential to fundamentally change the state for the better. but yea if no one gets involved then people like Hillary will write it and it will be poo poo for 99% of people. not unlike how it is now.
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etalian posted:I can't decide if Trenton or Albany is the bigger shithole of a state capital Do you mean the city or the governmental goings on? Because if you mean the former, Albany is less of a shithole by a mile. It's a pretty okay college town when you get down to it, while Trenton is just a post-industrial shithole. If you mean the latter, pretty sure the sheer number of convicts that have been booted out of our legislature in the past few years gives NY the current title, though it's far from safe, and Jersey had quite a championship run.
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CaptainPsyko posted:Do you mean the city or the governmental goings on? But who has more criminals that are still in the state legislator? All I know is that the answer won't surprise me.
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MizPiz posted:But who has more criminals that are still in the state legislator? Almost certainly New York. It's shockingly hard to remove a legislator from office!!!!!
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CaptainPsyko posted:Almost certainly New York. It's shockingly hard to remove a legislator from office!!!!! Make defenestration great again
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etalian posted:I can't decide if Trenton or Albany is the bigger shithole of a state capital As a city, I like living in Downtown Albany. It's fun to just walk around, weather permitting. Never been to Trenton, so I don't know. As for corruption... CaptainPsyko posted:Almost certainly New York. It's shockingly hard to remove a legislator from office!!!!! Hey, Silver and Skelos got convicted and removed in shame! By that great DA for the Southern District, who's about to root out.. Oh, wait, he's no longer there, he was fired. NEVER MIND! 
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Absurd Alhazred posted:As a city, I like living in Downtown Albany. It's fun to just walk around, weather permitting. Never been to Trenton, so I don't know. I gotta get back up there sometime soon. I kinda miss bombers of all things.
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CaptainPsyko posted:I gotta get back up there sometime soon. I kinda miss bombers of all things. LOL. I occasionally eat there. It's all right. For real Mexican food there's an El Mariachi just down the block, they felt the one on Swan wasn't enough for Center Square.
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they closed the troy bombers and put in a wolffs which has lead me to eat less burritos but drink more beer
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uncurable mlady posted:they closed the troy bombers and put in a wolffs which has lead me to eat less burritos but drink more beer I keep passing by it on my way to Brown's. Probably will tomorrow, as well. Never had a chance to pop in. Edit: Woops, this isn't the Upstate NY LAN thread! 
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etalian posted:I can't decide if Trenton or Albany is the bigger shithole of a state capital
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GalacticAcid posted:Is anyone ITT in favor of a constitutional convention? I absolutely am and all the arguments against it seem to just be unwarranted scare tactics by people who don't understand the process.
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Bo Deitl is a moron. Bo Dietl Won’t Be Running as a Republican on Mayoral Ballot Now, he tried to run as a Democrat, but he's a moron. quote:Mr. Dietl, who voted for President Trump and describes himself as a lifelong Republican, had attempted to enroll as a member of the Democratic Party last year when he changed his voter registration to New York City, from Nassau County, so that he could challenge Mr. de Blasio in the Democratic primary. But he filled out the registration form incorrectly by checking the boxes for two political parties — Democratic and Independence — when only one is permitted. As a result he ended up without any party affiliation. So he went to court about it, and got shut down, and did I mention that he's a moron? quote:Mr. Dietl, who is not a registered member of any political party, appeared to have harmed his candidacy during a Republican candidate screening last week when, in the final minutes, he compared a state court judge to Mr. de Blasio’s wife; both woman are black. quote:“The judge looked like Charlene de Blasio,” Mr. Dietl told a packed room of Republican Party members and leaders on the Upper East Side during the candidate screening. He was referring to Mr. de Blasio’s wife, Chirlane McCray. “As soon as I saw her,” he said. “I knew I had a problem.”
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Can we make this guy the thread mascot
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Can someone do an effortpost on the pros and cons of a convention or point me to some decent articles? I feel like it's gone underreported and I am not informed on this subject.
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Never thought I would see a cop in NYC do any admirable thing
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Pablo Gigante posted:Hopefully never because Uber's business practices are predatory as hell. I didn't know there were other people on SA from Ulster County greetings county friend
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i got an email from my local DSA meeting group about the con con, taken from somebody's union retiree newsletterquote:Keep Your Eye on the Con Con – An Update
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Thanks a ton, man. This is exactly what I was looking for.
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What exactly is the issue that is hoped to be brought up at the convention? That's what I feel like I'm missing here.
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NKD's tenets are: ● Enact meaningful campaign finance reform to get big money out of our state and local politics. ● Close the LLC loophole that allows corporations to evade campaign contribution limits. ● Keep corrupt lawmakers convicted of defrauding the public from receiving taxpayer-funded pensions. ● Protect the right to vote by guaranteeing automatic voter registration, allowing online registration, and creating oversight mechanisms for state and local Boards of Election. ● Restore the right to vote to people involved in the criminal justice system. ● Adopt strict disclosure requirements for public officials, campaigns, and lobbyists. Quoted verbatim from here. Doesn't seem worth the risk to me at all.
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unbutthurtable posted:What exactly is the issue that is hoped to be brought up at the convention? That's the thing. The constitution has a trigger for an open ended convention in which any amendment can be fast tracked versus the usual process, which requires amendments to pass the legislature and then a statewide ballot referendum. It's a hell of a lot easier for folks with a lot of money to take over a convention than it is for them to win all of the poo poo they want at the ballot in November.
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GalacticAcid posted:NKD's tenets are: Nearly everything on that list can be done with legislation without a con con.
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So if we can't trust the government (being against the con con) then how will anything ever get better?get that OUT of my face posted:i got an email from my local DSA meeting group about the con con, taken from somebody's union retiree newsletter What are the actual reasons to be against a con con? Because I see people who are "concerned" but I see zero concerns. ate shit on live tv has issued a correction as of 01:44 on May 5, 2017 |
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:So if we can't trust the government (being against the con con) then how will anything ever get better? Because at the end of the day, a con con is going to be run by the same people that are running our state government right now, more or less, and subject to all of the same external pressures and incentives. Except unlike when the constitution is amended by those fuckers under normal circumstances, the poo poo they do won't have to come back to you for a vote to approve it. All of the things that groups like NKD seem to want to do via a convention can be done through ordinary legislation, and a lot of the Bad poo poo that Bad People With A Lot Of Money want to do can't be done without one, it seems like a fairly poor risk/reward trade. The main argument in favor basically seems to boil down to "we will get to elect convention representatives who are not incumbents and can therefore short circuit the legislature!!!" Well, guess who is going to have the resources to win those seats? Wanna short circuit the legislature? How about backing candidates to unseat the incumbents you so oppose instead. If you can't muster the resources to do that, what makes you think you'll win at a convention?
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lovely incumbents are WAY harder to unseat then getting progressive convention representatives elected. The money part is true, but that's not really a new problem, and it will exist regardless. Right now things are getting worse for most people in the state. Doing nothing will ensure that things will continue getting worse. Plus every single progressive club in the city is also attempting to unseat lovely incumbents. Many are also working for a con con. They are hardly exclusive.
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:lovely incumbents are WAY harder to unseat then getting progressive convention representatives elected. The money part is true, but that's not really a new problem, and it will exist regardless. Right now things are getting worse for most people in the state. Doing nothing will ensure that things will continue getting worse. Resources are finite. I have limited faith in their ability to make the latter successful given their poor work on the former. You can't unseat lovely incumbents when nobody is mounting serious challenges to them.
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