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Steve2911 posted:Cool then making the parking free for everyone is the best solution and still makes more sense than charging. And then we go right back to commuters using them as free parking. Only solution I can see is to have a manned A&E free parking area, staff parking area, and then a paid area but to do more work on encouraging people to use the existing bus services. Most people really don't need to bring the car and then bitch about how much it cost to park, when the busses cost much less and are free to a great number of hospital patients/visitors anyway.
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learnincurve posted:And then we go right back to commuters using them as free parking. And now it's a job creation scheme. Win win.
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May 8, 2017 22:02
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Could you not just put automated barriers on the entry and exit that you use a patient number or something to operate?
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May 8, 2017 22:03
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Lord of the Llamas posted:Wales voted for Brexit. People aren't voting for the Conservative party. They're voting for the Theresa May Brexit Government. Yeah, UKIP support was 12.5% at the assembly elections in 2016, and if most of that drained into the Tories then that would make sense. Plaid Cymru seems to have lost a lot of support too, don't know if it went straight to the Tories or if it went to Labour while Labour voters have switched to Tory? Could be a mix, Plaid seem to present themselves as right-wing in rural areas and left-wing in urban areas. Could also just be different patterns in general and assembly elections. The +5 made me go  for half a second before I saw the "Welsh".
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May 8, 2017 22:06
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That mr jones is a popular fellow, he had 418 visitors today  I'm old so remember the old stamp systems they used to have in department stores. There was always a nice young junkie lad hanging about with a stamper he'd filched who would charge people 50p to validate their ticket.
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May 8, 2017 22:07
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Alchenar posted:Ed Miliband was criticised for having a 'shopping list manifesto' but '4 bank holidays and free car parking thrown in' feels like a coupon book manifesto. Bloody good job that only a disingenuous fuckwit would conclude that those 2 things have been the extent of the policies announced by Labour then eh?
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May 8, 2017 22:18
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Zephro posted:You have to wonder if this is a gateway drug, though, the way UKIP seems to have been a gateway drug to Toryism for a bunch of former Labour voters. Meh. I think it's so attached to Brexit I don't see it lasting beyond that. Same goes for the anti-Corbyn stay at home crowd, although that's probably mostly the same crowd as the Miliband isn't strong enough to stand up the to the SNP lot.
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May 8, 2017 22:20
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learnincurve posted:And then we go right back to commuters using them as free parking. You're way overcomplicating it. Most hospitals operate a get ticket on entering > pay before leaving system. All you'd need to do is buy some extra ticket validating machines and stick one in each department. Visitor/patient arrives, gets ticket punched for four hours free parking or whatever. Job done.
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May 8, 2017 22:24
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An end to the parking fees is a small de-facto pay rise to hospital staff too. I pay £2.20 a day to park which is cheap by all accounts. Assuming I work 5 days a week 47 weeks of the year that's £500 I'm paying for the privilege of turning up to work. I know in bigger centres the parking costs are higher.
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learnincurve posted:I'm old so remember the old stamp systems they used to have in department stores. There was always a nice young junkie lad hanging about with a stamper he'd filched who would charge people 50p to validate their ticket.
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May 8, 2017 22:29
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winegums posted:An end to the parking fees is a small de-facto pay rise to hospital staff too. I pay £2.20 a day to park which is cheap by all accounts. Assuming I work 5 days a week 47 weeks of the year that's £500 I'm paying for the privilege of turning up to work. I know in bigger centres the parking costs are higher. That's cheaper than public transport to/from for many people (though ofc you have to factor in the other car running costs).
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May 8, 2017 22:54
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winegums posted:An end to the parking fees is a small de-facto pay rise to hospital staff too. I pay £2.20 a day to park which is cheap by all accounts. Assuming I work 5 days a week 47 weeks of the year that's £500 I'm paying for the privilege of turning up to work. I know in bigger centres the parking costs are higher. It would also help with staff retention. I know of at least 3 clinical staff that have left* Poole hospital because they ended the free parking on site and instead moved the car parks to a 15 minute walk away. *While it wasn't the only reason, things like this are often the straw that breaks the back.
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May 8, 2017 22:56
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forkboy84 posted:Bloody good job that only a disingenuous fuckwit would conclude that those 2 things have been the extent of the policies announced by Labour then eh? He says, right before he complains about the MSM taking every chance to distort Labour's position.
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Alchenar posted:He says, right before he complains about the MSM taking every chance to distort Labour's position. Have you suffered a recent blow to the head?
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Alchenar posted:He says, right before he complains about the MSM taking every chance to distort Labour's position. So because I think the corporate media are in fact bias against genuinely socialist ideas, I have to concede some fictional point that the press didn't widely discuss that Labour will happily raise taxes on the rich? Hmmmm, interesting.
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May 8, 2017 23:00
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Labour should stop announcing good policies IMO because if they do people won't take them seriously.
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May 8, 2017 23:01
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 That was tonight, just over an hour ago, having been in the A&E for 3 hours already, and then got told it would be 'around 6 more hours' to be seen. I had multiple contusions, blood running down one arm, Hemostasis in two locations and three spots with severe tissue damage (multiple dog bites from an attack). I've not had to visit an A&E for over 15 years, this felt like a Saturday night, but was what they described as one of the quiestest nights of the week (usually). There were two nurses doing triage There was one doctor on duty gently caress you Jeremy oval office
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May 8, 2017 23:10
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When I was in A&E a few weeks ago I got insanely lucky. I was seen within an hour, then when I had to be kept in for observation (until 3.30am before being turfed onto the streets but that's a different story) the waiting time just crept up and up. People who got there shortly after me were still there well into the night.
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May 8, 2017 23:14
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PST posted:gently caress you Jeremy oval office Greens aren't standing against him and Labour and Lib Dems aren't campaigning in the hope that he gets ousted by an independent. Also your evening sounds terrible and I hope you're alright when you finally get seen.
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May 8, 2017 23:19
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OwlFancier posted:Labour should stop announcing good policies IMO because if they do people won't take them seriously. Actually maybe this is just a way for them to put policy before the party. The Tories keep stealing their past policies so maybe if they keep floating good ideas the tories will then implement them out of spite. It's 69 dimensional chess mate.
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May 8, 2017 23:33
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Theres still over 2 million 'young' voters that haven't registered yet.
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May 8, 2017 23:41
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PST posted:That was tonight, just over an hour ago, having been in the A&E for 3 hours already, and then got told it would be 'around 6 more hours' to be seen. I had multiple contusions, blood running down one arm, Hemostasis in two locations and three spots with severe tissue damage (multiple dog bites from an attack). That's grim. It should be criminal what these bastards are doing to one of the few things that we actually have to be proud of in this trash heap country. serious gaylord posted:Theres still over 2 million 'young' voters that haven't registered yet. How long do they have? Will there ever actually be a way to convince the yoofs that the reason they get shat on so much is because they can't bother themselves to vote & their racist granny can?
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May 9, 2017 00:09
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Good kid, that
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TheRat posted:Good kid, that Someone should switch the kid's face and tim farron's.
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hakimashou posted:Someone should switch the kid's face and tim farron's. gently caress off Nazi.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhzG0xmy6oo
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https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/861724567152316416 Another poll illustrating the catastrophic damage done to the Labour vote since 2015 by Jeremy Corbyn.
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I see Hakimashou got a custom Plat icon. Nice.
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jabby posted:https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/861724567152316416 Getting back those voters they lost to UKIP was pretty important for labour, hard to see how they can win without them. If the legacy of corbynismo is a transfer of labour voters to the conservatives with ukip serving as a temporary intermediary, that's gonna be ugly.
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hakimashou posted:Getting back those voters they lost to UKIP was pretty important for labour, hard to see how they can win without them. In 2010 UKIP were nowhere and Labour got 29% of the vote. In 2015 UKIP had suddenly replaced the Lib Dems as the third party and Labour got 30% of the vote. Now in 2017 it's looking like UKIP will collapse and Labour is likely to get.. somewhere around 30% of the vote. Regardless of whose votes are going where we've basically gone from having a significantly sized third party (either the Lib Dems or UKIP) to suddenly having just two main parties. Obviously it's a shame Corbyn hasn't managed to overcome his obstacles and hoover up some of those votes but the most truthful narrative is that Labour is the only opposition party whose vote share hasn't collapsed over the last two elections. Assuming the polls are relatively accurate of course.
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jabby posted:https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/861724567152316416 Man that's terrifying. There's so many constituencies where the UKIP vote added to the Tory vote would mean the tories win. So, so many.
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If only something could have been done to counteract that initial loss of votes to UKIP, something like, not being a bag of shite carry on as usual party for the past 20 years.
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OwlFancier posted:If only something could have been done to counteract that initial loss of votes to UKIP, something like, not being a bag of shite carry on as usual party for the past 20 years. Most labour folks seem pretty dead set against the idea of becoming an anti-immigrant party, so really what could labour have done?
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forkboy84 posted:gently caress off Nazi. I hate the Nazi dude too but he does have a point, someone should switch the faces
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May 9, 2017 01:03
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hakimashou posted:Most labour folks seem pretty dead set against the idea of becoming an anti-immigrant party, so really what could labour have done? Not started a war in iraq
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forkboy84 posted:How long do they have? Will there ever actually be a way to convince the yoofs that the reason they get shat on so much is because they can't bother themselves to vote & their racist granny can? I always think telling the yoof to register and vote is putting the cart before the horse. They need to be politically engaged first, through activism and whatnot throughout the year(s) and not just in the few weeks leading up to the election.
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May 9, 2017 01:04
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Some of the Young People are actually pretty right wing.
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May 9, 2017 01:09
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Of course if the polls are accurate and Labour gets a similar vote share as the 2015 election, the question then becomes how well could Corbyn have done if the PLP hadn't been a total bag of shite?
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I mean seriously, I wouldn't assume that if you managed to persuade them to vote then they'd vote in a good way.
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