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I'm reading the thread from the beginning and there are some real nuggets of gold in there. Like a guy figuring out that eating a shifter allows a titan to regain their humanity way back around chapter 47 and pretty much all responses to his post shout it down as a dumb idea with no proof 
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You know, watching with hindsight I've come to realize that Isayama is really loving good at the whole structuring a narrative thing. He's either a master of picking up old details and turning them into plot points or he's been carefully seeding scenes and details with foreshadowing and multiple layers since the very beginning (including plenty of elements that are only conveyed in image form, like the physical resemblances between characters!) and jesus christ wasn't this his first published manga anyways. It really elevated the experience of watching S2 with the benefit of hindsight.
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May 8, 2017 19:56
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Really, I just credit him with making the main character a really angry little poo poo. Eren improves nearly every scene he's in by losing his poo poo to a comical degree. "Eren come with us and no one gets hurt." "  I am going to murder the gently caress out of all you."
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May 8, 2017 20:21
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AradoBalanga posted:I want to say "yes", but it could easily resurface now that the Ackermans have been revealed to be indirectly tied to the research on titans. Yeah but that's the Ackermans. Since in a brilliant subversion of expectations, while the Token Japanese character is a superhuman, its due to genetic manipulation and the Asian side of her ancestry is (presumably) completely normal people who just happened to immigrate to Upside-Down Southern Africa over 100 years ago.
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May 8, 2017 20:39
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Hahahahaha, at one point someone posted a quick translation of the chinese raws for chapter 49. A guy or two catch onto Bertold calling the people inside the walls (or, specifically survey corps chasing them) descendants of demons after Armin bullshits him about Annie being tortured, start makng some theories from there and get berated for reading too much into a fan translaton. Some fourty chapters later we learn about Marley and Eldians. Really, the most hilarious thing to me isn't how wrong people's theories were at the time because that's a given. It's how many people either came close to the truth or reasoned it out entirely correctly and were completely ignored. Nooooo, Eren couldn't have eaten his dad when he first transformed, that'd be dumb  E: Analysing some of the post, what derailed a lot of the speculation from the right track and straight into a wall was that can of herring in the Utgard Castle. Aumanor fucked around with this message at 21:08 on May 8, 2017 |
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May 8, 2017 20:47
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Liquid Dinosaur posted:Yeah but that's the Ackermans. Since in a brilliant subversion of expectations, while the Token Japanese character is a superhuman, its due to genetic manipulation and the Asian side of her ancestry is (presumably) completely normal people who just happened to immigrate to Upside-Down Southern Africa over 100 years ago. No it was both the Asians and the Ackermans that were immune to the memory manipulation. Though maybe that was just because the Asian bloodline isn't Eldian, which presumably means Mikasa wouldn't titanize very well since she's only half Eldian.
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May 8, 2017 21:42
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Aumanor posted:E: Analysing some of the post, what derailed a lot of the speculation from the right track and straight into a wall was that can of herring in the Utgard Castle. They weren't even red.
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May 8, 2017 21:45
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How many times did I post saying dumb stuff, because I think I was firmly in the camp of "Christ you people make too many theories". Consider me schooled.
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May 8, 2017 21:45
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Yeah, I too was one of the guys who would make fun of people who made theories off of small stuff. Guess I'm the jackass in the end.
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May 8, 2017 21:48
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Uh question regarding Titan lifespan. If Reiner and Zeke have a 13 year limit, does that mean Armin and Eren are gonna croak in ten or so?
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May 8, 2017 22:13
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It's been nearly a year since I've last checked this thread and I am curious how the story has progressed but not sure I want to slog through all of the pages. Is there somewhere I can find a story recap?
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May 8, 2017 22:14
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Gaj posted:Uh question regarding Titan lifespan. If Reiner and Zeke have a 13 year limit, does that mean Armin and Eren are gonna croak in ten or so? Armin's got around 9 years left. Eren's got less than 4.
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May 8, 2017 22:18
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Mordaedil posted:How many times did I post saying dumb stuff, because I think I was firmly in the camp of "Christ you people make too many theories". Saagonsa posted:Yeah, I too was one of the guys who would make fun of people who made theories off of small stuff. Guess I'm the jackass in the end. I'm only on page 136 of the thread (early October 2013), and I don't recall many posts from either of you until that point, but since you were both kind enough to paint big targets on your backs I'll make sure to quote you here if I find anything good.
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Gaj posted:Uh question regarding Titan lifespan. If Reiner and Zeke have a 13 year limit, does that mean Armin and Eren are gonna croak in ten or so? Armin has 9 and Eren has 4, yes.
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RatHat posted:No it was both the Asians and the Ackermans that were immune to the memory manipulation. Though maybe that was just because the Asian bloodline isn't Eldian, which presumably means Mikasa wouldn't titanize very well since she's only half Eldian. Well yeah she's "special" in that Asians are not Eldian, and the Ackermans seemingly are, but in some special and different way that makes them super soldiers after a traumatic event triggers a mini-quickening in them. I remember I suspected Mikasa and Levi were pseudo-Jewish since they're a non-default ethnicity, rendering them immune to bloodline-based min control, and dude's named Levi. Then it turns out everybody in the wall is a pseudo-Jew.
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May 9, 2017 01:11
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I gotta say I really appreciate getting the original titan back actually being just a geopolitical PR stunt for Marley
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May 9, 2017 15:02
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I'm looking at getting "Attack on Titan (Collections) (21 Book Series)" on Amazon. The product page lists all 21 volumes, yet the description says "Subscribe to this series and get chapters automatically delivered to your library when they're released. You won't get any prior issues, backlist items, or collections. New chapters only." Despite the bolded part, I would still get the entire manga to date, right?
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May 9, 2017 20:11
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If I wanted to get in to the manga at around the point where the anime is at now (Reiner/Bert reveal), which issue would that be?
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May 9, 2017 20:19
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Balthesar posted:If I wanted to get in to the manga at around the point where the anime is at now (Reiner/Bert reveal), which issue would that be? Chapter 43 would be right after the last episode ended.
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May 9, 2017 20:26
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 Don't think this has been posted yet but reading the MS translation, was Zeke's secret (besides rear end wiping techniques) that he never told Marley that he was Royal Blood, even though Kreuger assumed he would? Also:  Falco is related to a Revolutionary, and seems to imply Colt (and thus Zeke's wife) are Grices too. I'd assume all the Grices would've been exterminated being related to Grisha's comrade. Did Zeke protect them somehow?
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May 9, 2017 21:03
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I pointed out the Grice connection earlier (they're supposedly spelled the same in the Korean translation?). The thing about Zeke hiding his royal blood was floating around reddit but I don't think anyone else mentioned it here. I don't think that Zeke is Colt/Falco's father -- from what I can tell that was a translation flub where Zeke was referring to himself as Grisha's son, not referring to Colt as his own son. I do think both connections are notable though. Falco being related to the original Grice is important because we're already seeing Falco go against the mold, so it would make sense that he's related to a revolutionary and harboring goals that don't align with the Marley government. Zeke's royal blood seems to be his secret, and it would imply that he intends to betray Marley at some point in the next year, although I don't think that necessarily means allying with the Walldians. Obviously he's got some conflicting motivations, but if he had intended to join the folks on Paradis he's had more than a few chances.
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May 9, 2017 21:39
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Nina posted:I gotta say I really appreciate getting the original titan back actually being just a geopolitical PR stunt for Marley
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May 10, 2017 00:51
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comedyblissoption posted:well there's also the blurb about the island having a bunch of resources those buried resources are actually giant robots piloted by titans
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May 10, 2017 00:56
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I think "resources" was just ambiguous language that ultimately refers to the titan power and was not meant to mean, like, fossil fuels.
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May 10, 2017 02:11
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Schwarzwald posted:I think "resources" was just ambiguous language that ultimately refers to the titan power and was not meant to mean, like, fossil fuels. No it literally said "fossil fuels" in the Crunchyroll translation.
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May 10, 2017 02:15
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Aw, dang. Howabout that.
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May 10, 2017 02:16
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Fossil fuels is code for ancient titan: model dinosaur
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May 10, 2017 02:38
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Why the gently caress is Zeke running with giant dinosaurs and whales and poo poo in the OP?
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May 10, 2017 02:41
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They're giant beasts, I think that's about it.
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May 10, 2017 05:07
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Schwarzwald posted:Aw, dang. Howabout that. It's kinda foreshadowed when you consider the season 1 info cards mentioned how all the industry needed to make the 3DMG is at the center, including the resource extraction. That's only viable if those are some really rich pockets of various resources all crammed in a small area.
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May 11, 2017 01:31
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IIRC they specifically mentioned the interior was rich in natural gas used as fuel for the 3d gear. I had just assumed it was that.
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May 11, 2017 02:45
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It's prolly mainly that, although it must have some bitching ore deposits too for the production of disposable steel.
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Yeah, I remember it's mentioned that the material for the "super hard blades" can only be found in the interior of the walls.
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JahRoo posted:Zeke's royal blood seems to be his secret, and it would imply that he intends to betray Marley at some point in the next year, although I don't think that necessarily means allying with the Walldians. Obviously he's got some conflicting motivations, but if he had intended to join the folks on Paradis he's had more than a few chances. This just occurred to me, but he most likely knows his royal blood would allow him to use the power of the original titan, but maybe not that it would make him a slave to the collective consciousness of past kings. What are the odds he's hoping to take it for himself? Maybe he's legitimately hoping to fulfill his father's wish of using it's power to free his people.
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Liquid Dinosaur posted:Why the gently caress is Zeke running with giant dinosaurs and whales and poo poo in the OP? Apex predators
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Saagonsa posted:Yeah, I remember it's mentioned that the material for the "super hard blades" can only be found in the interior of the walls. Didn't one of the side stories reveal the material to be super hard bamboo?
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May 11, 2017 16:15
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That sounds incredibly stupid so
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Pyrotoad posted:Didn't one of the side stories reveal the material to be super hard bamboo? Wanst it made using Eren armored ability? edit: vvvv I know, but I vaguely remember the spears being made of the hardened ability material, or something like that Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 17:59 on May 11, 2017 |
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Elias_Maluco posted:Wanst it made using Eren armored ability? The walls were, I'm talking about the swords. edit: I think the spears were like the walls as well, you're right there. Pyrotoad fucked around with this message at 21:06 on May 11, 2017 |
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is it bad that the manga thread isn't clearly named for anime watchers
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