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its sad that his fans have nothing going on in their own lives that they have to resort to hating a gigantic nerd who hit it big and is now enjoying the twilight years of his life. especially when the lightning in a bottle that made him famous isnt even that good in the first place.
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I don't hate the guy but it's been twenty loving years, man. I would've put AGoT back on the shelf at Borders and walked away back then if I knew that 20 years later, there still wouldn't be an end to this thing. But HBO will give us an ending either way, so it's fine. At this point, I think this thread is just ragging on him because it's funny, not because people are actually, like, super mad.
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May 8, 2017 15:20
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Yeah discussing AFFC was fun back in 2005 but now I don't really give a poo poo and just check this thread every so often because it's in my bookmarks.
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May 8, 2017 15:40
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powerful sex moves posted:I don't hate the guy but it's been twenty loving years, man. I would've put AGoT back on the shelf at Borders and walked away back then if I knew that 20 years later, there still wouldn't be an end to this thing. We're like those 80 year old starlets who publish "whatever, I'm over it" biographical accounts of how they were molested in their youth with a hard earned "boys will be boys" view point now that the youthful outrage and self respect has faded.
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May 8, 2017 15:39
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TommyGun85 posted:its sad that his fans have nothing going on in their own lives that they have to resort to hating a gigantic nerd who hit it big and is now enjoying the twilight years of his life. It's not like checking this thread once every few weeks and commenting on the absolute fucker is some kind of full time job
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May 8, 2017 16:09
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writing is the easiest job on the planet once you have a hit series. you can work whenever, you don't have to go into an office, you aren't gonna get fired, it's stress free. the problem is you gotta actually do some work.
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May 8, 2017 17:15
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I just wish he'd poo poo or get off the pot, and stop pretending like there's a non embarrassing outcome to the corner he's painted himself in with the TV show. He spent like 15 years writing 3/4ths of a bad book and that was before he had HBO money and fame. I think it's 50/50 on TWOW ever coming out, way more unlikely that it's good, and absolutely impossible that the fat nerd finishes the series. Even in a universe where he does finish TWOW and lives to sell another book, the TV series will be long dead and no one is going to want to read 1000 pages of TV adaptation. Just take the money and run, George. Live your life.
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May 8, 2017 18:10
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I'm really almost positive the novel is gonna come out in June. Quote me in this. You guys will all be dropping your jaws and I'll be all like "I knew it  "I have no evidence beyond an intuitive sense. I haven't thought about or been particularly interested in the book series for a good 5 years at least, and now I find myself feeling bizarrely interested and compelled to think about it. I just want to say something about the books very quickly, which is that it's extremely easy to forget just how much more complex and interwoven the books are when compared to the TV show, which has no compunctions about condensing characters and locations and plot arcs together, cheating the timeline, and skipping over scenes that are positively crucial in the book - all in the interest of telling a more coherent and straightforward story. I also sort of hat to say this, but ever since the show started to diverge significantly from the source material starting in season 4 and 5 (seasons 1 through 3 are remarkably faithful) it's felt like it's been turning more and more into a traditional fantasy series. By 'traditional fantasy series' I mean that everything feels... well, you KNOW what's going to happen, and what you think you KNOW will happen has happened exactly in the manner you thought. We all *knew* that Jon Snow wasn't really dead or would come back to life, and he dead. Go back earlier to the Hardhome battle - epic and awesome as it was, we all KNEW that Jon Snow would make it through alive, and of course he did. During the "Battle of the Bastards," traditional heroic fantasy storytelling dictates that Ramsay will suffer a horrible loss and we will see Sansa/Jon take revenge and take back Winterfell. And that's exactly what happens, with the Knights of the Vale saving the day just like Gandalf and the troops from Gondor arriving at Helm's Deep. And *nobody* truly important died on the "Stark" side (can't really count Rickon as a legitimate character, sorry). The most intriguing and interesting part of the fifth book - the northern lords under seige in Winterfell slowly betraying each other with mysterious murders occurring and an almost supernatural storm bearing down on them - not even a remnant of that story exists, or of Young Griff's story (and about 5/6s of Tyrion's plot-line in book 5) is simply replaced with really boring and rote material, quite frankly. And even so I can't really blame them because a lot of Tyrion's journey us downright unfilmably boring even for TV. It's not that I'm upset that they changed things, it's that they changed things in such a way that it feels like they're subverting what makes the entire series worthwhile, which is the role of death and the nature of death and the fact that the "good guys" can and will "lose" in the traditional manner and still wind up winning in the end - and the same goes for the "bad guys" or vice versa. What's kinda lovely is that in the last couple of seasons is that we really truly HAVE good guys and bad guys. Cersei is clearly set up to be nefarious and evil by any standard, while Dany is clearly set up too be righteous and ethical - and the same guys for Jon Snow. And the White Walkers of course are presented entirely as an unknown destructive force that is most definitely "evil" as far as the show seems to be concerned. This is all so basic and so predictable and so boring, in a way. I'll watch it but at this point it feels more like a cheesy amusement park ride than an intriguing story being told. The sad truth is that the first 3 books were adapted faithfully and accurately because the source material was still really loving good!! The big memorable moment of season 4 - Mountain vs Red Viper - is obviously another climactic awesome moment from the end of book 3. And then we have no more great moments like that in the book, really, until the last few pages of book 5, the more interesting climax being nixed by the show for obvious reason. Anyway, sorry about the rambling I probably don't make any drat sense. I've just lost faith in the show's ability to kill of beloved characters in lieu of only killing off hated characters. A GoT universe with Walder Frey, Joffrey, or Ramsay leaves us basically with Cersei to hate kinda, Littlefinger, and uh... er, Euron maybe? They even killed the High Sparrow, a great new antagonist the show created. So I don't know, the show feels pretty screwed up to me right now. I'm sure it'll be fun to watch. But I'm sadly hoping for the book.... What actually gives me some hope about this novel is that the chapters he's read all have seemed pretty good... Most of all I think the two GoT novellas he wrote since ADWD (The Mystery Knight and especially The Princess and the Queen) were just fabulously good, especially the latter, which is a "loose" chronicle of the Dance of the Dragons - the Targaryen Civil War - and is just a great goddamn piece of writing. You could make one HELL of a miniseries out of that story,
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May 8, 2017 18:36
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You think the novel's coming out in a month when it hasn't even been announced yet? What a weird thing to think.
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May 8, 2017 18:42
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kaworu posted:This is all so basic and so predictable and so boring, in a way. I'll watch it but at this point it feels more like a cheesy amusement park ride than an intriguing story being told. The sad truth is that the first 3 books were adapted faithfully and accurately because the source material was still really loving good!! The big memorable moment of season 4 - Mountain vs Red Viper - is obviously another climactic awesome moment from the end of book 3. And then we have no more great moments like that in the book, really, until the last few pages of book 5, the more interesting climax being nixed by the show for obvious reason. I kinda agree with that. The source material after book 3 is really not fit for TV (and is bad). But and what they created to replace it is just awful
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powerful sex moves posted:You think the novel's coming out in a month when it hasn't even been announced yet? What a weird thing to think. My mind does not compute season 7 starting before book 5. It's just too much of a differential. But it's not THAT weird there have been rumors that the book is already in production, and I've heard rumors that they were planning a surprise release just before the premiere of a new season, to allow the two to build up the hype. It does seem odd that a shortened 7-episode series is resulting in a very much delayed release - typically we'd be nearly halfway through the season by now! But even though each and every one of the last seasons began in the spring, this one's beginning in midsummer. They said it was to get more wintry weather, but they only started a month late, with filming lasting seemingly a good bit longer, even though they have 3 less episodes to do  But my little conspiracy theory is that this season was delayed for a Winds of Winter release in June. I know it's a bit weird, but I mean, A Dance with Dragons was announced about 3 months before it's launch. 1 month ain't so much of a stretch, especially if they're rushing to get it all ready and don't want to announce until the presses are actually rolling.
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May 8, 2017 19:08
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The adventures of Brienne and Pod in the show were like 1000x better than the book
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kaworu posted:My mind does not compute season 7 starting before book 5. It's just too much of a differential. lol If either party gave a flying gently caress about that they would have done something before an entire season existed in spoilertown
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May 8, 2017 19:17
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kaworu posted:But my little conspiracy theory is that this season was delayed for a Winds of Winter release in June. There is now way HBO gives a poo poo about the books that their flagship series is based on. They would never delay the release of their biggest moneymaker just so GRRM can finish a book that may or may not actually exist.
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May 8, 2017 19:23
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Wasn't Season 4 kind of a holding pattern because D&D were still fooling themselves that GRRM might finish the book?
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May 8, 2017 19:27
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TommyGun85 posted:its sad that his fans have nothing going on in their own lives that they have to resort to hating a gigantic nerd who hit it big and is now enjoying the twilight years of his life. its sad that you have nothing going on in your own life that you have resort to hating his fans who have nothing going on in their own lives such that they have to resort to hating a gigantic nerd who hit it big and is now enjoying the twilight years of his life.
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kaworu posted:But my little conspiracy theory is that this season was delayed for a Winds of Winter release in June. I know it's a bit weird, but I mean, A Dance with Dragons was announced about 3 months before it's launch. 1 month ain't so much of a stretch, especially if they're rushing to get it all ready and don't want to announce until the presses are actually rolling. I will bet you any amount of money you are wrong.
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May 8, 2017 19:58
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The last 2 seasons were shortened and delayed because they're CG heavy as gently caress, they announced this towards the end of last season. The need the same amount (or probably event more) money, and more time for less episodes because of dragons and zombies. I remember a ton of rumors and talk last year about how the book was totally coming out to coincide with season 6. Hell, season 5 probably did the same thing. It'll never happen. There's a lot more plot armor and predictable outcomes now, but that's an unavoidable side effect of being this far into a story that's too drat long. How could there be any sort of coherent narrative if Dany died on the way back to her home Finally, I thought season 4 was middling, and season 5 was down right garbage (except Hardhome) but season 6 started okay and got steadily better until the last two episodes, which were some of the best episodes of the series.
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Kavak posted:Wasn't Season 4 kind of a holding pattern because D&D were still fooling themselves that GRRM might finish the book? nah. there's just no reason to progress your plot when people will give you money to just see some boobs in a fantasy setting once a week.
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May 8, 2017 19:59
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kaworu posted:I'm really almost positive the novel is gonna come out in June. Quote me in this.
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Woodpile posted:You've already lost. Did he say WHICH june?
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May 8, 2017 20:30
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40 posts did the book come out or something? no? ok.
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Elias_Maluco posted:I kinda agree with that. The source material after book 3 is really not fit for TV (and is bad). But and what they created to replace it is just awful They've been remarkably faithful to the overall narrative arc of the book series. A great tale through the Red Wedding, followed by a rapid descent to poo poo[ting in a field]. It's like poetry; it rhymes. The Little Kielbasa fucked around with this message at 21:15 on May 8, 2017 |
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May 8, 2017 21:07
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kcroy posted:its sad that you have nothing going on in your own life that you have resort to hating his fans who have nothing going on in their own lives such that they have to resort to hating a gigantic nerd who hit it big and is now enjoying the twilight years of his life. lol, this could turn into one of them vicious circles...
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May 8, 2017 22:39
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Ha, thought gurm died or something with so many posts. I still think he's going to die in a June. Quote me on that.
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May 8, 2017 23:09
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counterfeitsaint posted:It's not like checking this thread once every few weeks and commenting on the absolute fucker is some kind of full time job me: oh goodness, SIX new posts in the GRRM thread?! busy week! what has that absolute fucker been up to?! one minute later me: gosh, am i winded. i better lay down eats six pizzas and drinks four litres of cola
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May 9, 2017 12:12
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kaworu posted:Well, I at least provided you guys with a fleeting moment of hope, right? Just the fact that this hasn't been beaten out of all of you entirely impresses the hell out of me. I'm like, crazy young in this waiting game, I started reading in 2010 and ADWD (and the show) came out just as I had struggled through the last of AFFC, hoping the next book would be a great return to form Hope is a mistake. I wonder how fast GRRM will become irrelevant once the HBO series have finished. He will in all likelihood end up going to every other fantasy convention to sign autographs and pretend that soon the book will be out, while he slowly slides out of focus and is forgotten.
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Then I hoped that Winds of Winter would get published promptly because it's not like he's gonna take another DECADE to release a sprawling unedited book (either in two parts or one) right? Right? Ri... 
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May 9, 2017 22:00
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counterfeitsaint posted:and more time for less episodes because of dragons and zombies. Fewer.
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GEORGE R. R. SALINGER
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IRQ posted:I don't think anyone genuinely cares if the books come out at this point. I used to look forward to reading his excuses about why the books are done, but even those have dried up lately. Remember that year he wrote a really long heartfelt explanation on Dec 31st about why the books weren't finished that year, but then his blogging software ate it, so instead we just got a short paragraph about how blogging software sucks and his assurances that the no longer existing post was really good?
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IRQ posted:I don't think anyone genuinely cares if the books come out at this point. I honestly hope they never come out and he dies while making GBS threads on the toilet
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May 10, 2017 01:11
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He has both of them done and will publish them when the last HBO show is airing. It is known
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Invicta{HOG}, M.D. posted:He has both of them done and will publish them when the last HBO show is airing. Aw shucks, now that there's gonna be 4 new HBO shows we'll never get these books. *poutingly kicks pebble
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May 10, 2017 04:03
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Invicta{HOG}, M.D. posted:He has both of them done and will publish
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May 10, 2017 05:09
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He's only burning it so that no one finds out that it's blank.
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Cardiac posted:Hope is a mistake. He'll be remembered solely for his Wikipedia entry which will state that he is the novelist who unsuccessfully attempted to adapt the hit HBO series Game of Thrones into a series of novels.
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ZShakespeare posted:He'll be remembered solely for his Wikipedia entry which will state that he is the novelist who unsuccessfully attempted to adapt the hit HBO series Game of Thrones into a series of novels. I'm pretty sure he's mostly gonna be remembered for all the grotesque poo poo they find in his basement.
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