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Mustang posted:Other than cramming 2 years of training into 9 months, life is going pretty good. Army sent me to a great area where junior officers have pretty good job opportunities when they get out. If this op tempo keeps up the Army only owns me until next summer, if I really wanted to I could already be acaping Stay strong when you have "The Talk" with your BC.
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You should stay in because contrary to what the Army had told you you've cultivated 0 real world skills outside of working for an oil company or selling insurance or getting some sad rear end contractor job working with the Army
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May 11, 2017 03:07
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I guess maybe you could go officer to call center team leader but it would probably be tough sledding with an officers skillset tbh
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May 11, 2017 03:12
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Are you having a stroke?
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May 11, 2017 03:54
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Mustang posted:If I lived anywhere but Washington you'd probably be right You're super well intentioned so I'm going to give you some advice: 1) Go to grad school and get a degree to replace whatever led to you going to OCS in the first place 2) In the event you wind up in a job interview, don't try to pretend that anyone cares about your military experience. If you end up in a place where they do, you're probably going to be underpaid. Any notorious government contractor (Raytheon, Lockheed, GDIT, Northrup) is bad and you shouldn't work for them 3) More generally, don't be that guy who still pretends he's in the military 5 years after he gets out 4) Also, just because someone is a veteran doesn't mean they want to hear all about your time at Yakima. If I had a dollar for every time some former airforce guy told me about how sweet it was to kill terrorists as a plumber in the mid 90s, I'd be able to retire at 27.
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Nostalgia4Murder posted:Are you having a stroke? No? Ive seen officers from LTs to LTCs struggle to find legit work post Army. The conception that it will lead to anything useful isnt grounded in reality because generally no one gives a flying gently caress about your military service. Businesses only care about skill sets and a 19A isn't going to do much of anything that overlaps with the real world.
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milk milk lemonade posted:No? Ive seen officers from LTs to LTCs struggle to find legit work post Army. The conception that it will lead to anything useful isnt grounded in reality because generally no one gives a flying gently caress about your military service. Businesses only care about skill sets and a 19A isn't going to do much of anything that overlaps with the real world. I think a lot of it has to do with how you frame it. If you go in talking about how you're a warrior leader, nobody is going to loving care. If you go in discussing how you're a manager of X number of personnel and responsible for Y number of assets totaling $Z millions of dollars and managing cross-functional projects involving however many personnel and different agencies, then people will begin to listen.
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May 11, 2017 04:17
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milk milk lemonade posted:No? Ive seen officers from LTs to LTCs struggle to find legit work post Army. The conception that it will lead to anything useful isnt grounded in reality because generally no one gives a flying gently caress about your military service. Businesses only care about skill sets and a 19A isn't going to do much of anything that overlaps with the real world. 42H is a golden MOS for civilian work.
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My question would be is that actually what you did as a JO though? I've seen folks have a lot of success with big corporations that purposefully cultivate recruiting pipelines to the military and programs to train people up (GE, Chase) but generally they are company grades and above. And if you're in a FA with plenty of overlap in the real world seems to make a huge difference. But why would I hire someone as a people manager in a field they have 0 experience in? I'm struggling to think of an industry where 'leadership' is more important than understanding how the business works and what your people need to do on a day to day basis. I think your advice about grad school is spot on because honestly that's what I've seen a lot of people forced into doing.
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May 11, 2017 04:28
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Grad school is definitely something I'm considering, I'll have 100% GI Bill in a little less than a year from now. I'm definitely not the type to go on about being a "warrior leader" and other dumb army jargon. I do however think that a junior officer when given the right duty positions has a pretty wide field of experience that many people never get. It's one of the reasons why I want to become my BN's maintenance officer despite the fact that it's a job with long hours. I've had it pretty good here so far, I was doing a CPT's job from the moment I showed up because of a shortage of personnel and kept the job until I became a PL because I was pretty loving good at it. The one thing I have going against me is I'm not a brown nosing rear end kisser like the "best" LT's. Ironically my platoon's soldiers and NCO's had them as PL's and hated them.
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May 11, 2017 04:42
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Grad school is also a good way to transition from army to civilian mindset.
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Zeris posted:Grad school is also a good way to transition from army to civilian mindset. Grad school rocks. I work on the side as a divemaster helping teach classes and doing guided tours around local shipwrecks, hopefully got a summer job as a teacher for the local aquarium, and this fall I'll be done with all my GIS classes and ready to bail out of here. Nobody here cares that I'm a former LT, but that's likely because I live not too far from Fort Bragg and Camp Lejeune 
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May 11, 2017 05:27
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My only concern with grad school is what kind of GPA I'll need. I majored in International Relations but don't want to go any further with that, not sure yet what I'd like to pursue yet. Definitely want to start planning for my post Army future anyways even if it is still potentially a few years out.
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May 11, 2017 05:44
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For most degrees it won't matter. veteran card trumps most anything and also explains the change from whatever your last degree was in
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lol dude I got a 2.8 with a history degree (granted at a good undergrad) and I'm starting a top 10 MBa program in a month. It's all about how you frame it and if you don't come off as a mongoloid in interviews. And this is coming from a 19A.
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May 11, 2017 11:51
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Grad school is best school As long as you can show you're not an inbred douche who can't think critically you shouldn't have a problem getting into grad school. It's a second chance for butt peeping and acting like a college student, although you are much smarter and experienced than some 18 year old gently caress boy living on his own for the first time. If you can though go to a literal brick and mortar grad school... Don't go online
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May 11, 2017 15:30
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That's good to hear because my GPA was like a 2.8 something. I'll be like 32ish by the time I can go to grad school, unless I get out next summer.
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May 11, 2017 15:35
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MurderBot posted:Grad school is best school I've been pretty happy with my online courses so far, but then again I'm employed full time. I do have the option of taking them on campus, but my work schedule is too unpredictable to dedicate 3 hours to a sitdown lecture each week. If I continue on to do a PHD then I'll have to spend time there, though.
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May 11, 2017 15:37
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if i take classes online i will fail, because i can always just do it later. i can't stand dumbass 20 year olds, but it's better than failing.
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May 11, 2017 15:37
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Mustang posted:That's good to hear because my GPA was like a 2.8 something. Get out as soon as possible. Every day you risk some mongoloid running you over in a humvee, your back or knees that you thought were fine giving out, basically the million ways that the military can grind you up because of all the stupid people.
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May 11, 2017 15:40
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When my wife went back to grad school as a mix of online courses as well as brick and mortar for scientific labs and field work courses while working full time 5 days/week working, 2 days/week doing a full day of school and commute, she still really liked it. She has a very strong work ethic though and had a job where she could, within reason, set her hours at the office and perpetually had admin leave due to travel and overtime. That said, she was still in her 20s and was still like "holy poo poo 22-year olds are very different from me" in the sense that they often were really smart but couldn't coordinate basic poo poo like when to have a meeting or how to travel somewhere or didn't realize wetland field work might get them dirty or require certain clothes or equipment.
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May 11, 2017 15:43
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TBeats posted:if i take classes online i will fail, because i can always just do it later. These aren't self paced; you have rigid due dates for assignments and participation. For undegrad, I encourage people to definitely not go online. There's too much varied poo poo going on with electives and everything. For grad school, you're presumably doing something you're interested in, so you'll actually dedicate the time to it. If not, then you shouldn't be in grad school.
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There's a big difference in experience and personality of a grad student in comparison to a sophomore in undergrad. There's nothing wrong with going to school online but if you have the opportunity to go to school and get extra funds for living expenses you get a vastly different experience than doing your work from home. If you end up being a GTA though you'll hate your life since you have to deal with undergrads but your tuition is paid for soooo FYGM
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i know its a meme but i laughed pretty hard when i saw it (i am also a little stoned)
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MurderBot posted:There's a big difference in experience and personality of a grad student in comparison to a sophomore in undergrad. There's nothing wrong with going to school online but if you have the opportunity to go to school and get extra funds for living expenses you get a vastly different experience than doing your work from home. It also depends on your goals. If you're shooting for a tier 1 consulting or i banking job none of them will take you seriously without a brick and mortar masters. Plus, yoga butts. Also pantsuit butts. Don't underestimate pantsuit butts.
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May 11, 2017 16:58
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TBeats posted:i know its a meme but i laughed pretty hard when i saw it (i am also a little stoned) Just put this in the OP for the next thread and whoever did this one too, thanks. gently caress you if you're still in. Double gently caress you if you re-enlist.
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Icon Of Sin posted:Grad school rocks. I work on the side as a divemaster helping teach classes and doing guided tours around local shipwrecks, hopefully got a summer job as a teacher for the local aquarium, and this fall I'll be done with all my GIS classes and ready to bail out of here. I don't know what type of grad school this is but it is highly unrepresentative of a typical doctorate program.
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May 11, 2017 23:39
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPOEmHczkCw
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May 12, 2017 01:19
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Wow. Also, could totally happen.
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Next week I'm going to write 1-3 parking tickets for the GSA vans the recruiters drive and keep parking in a no parking zone. It's the same MEPS I swore in at. Small victories...
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May 12, 2017 23:15
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Woof Blitzer posted:Next week I'm going to write 1-3 parking tickets for the GSA vans the recruiters drive and keep parking in a no parking zone. It's the same MEPS I swore in at. Small victories... No balls
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May 12, 2017 23:17
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Woof Blitzer posted:Next week I'm going to write 1-3 parking tickets for the GSA vans the recruiters drive and keep parking in a no parking zone. It's the same MEPS I swore in at. Small victories... Be sure to put "Thank you for your service" at the end of each.
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I had a great morning and a really loving stupid as poo poo and loving goddammit afternoon. Thanks Army, for the morning at least. No thanks for the rest of the day. Welp, back to doing Army things.
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mlmp08 posted:I had a great morning and a really loving stupid as poo poo and loving goddammit afternoon. https://twitter.com/GermanyinUSA/status/863130108944670720
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A Bad Poster posted:Be sure to put "Thank you for your service" at the end of each.
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A Bad Poster posted:Be sure to put "Thank you for your service" at the end of each. I will donate $10 to any charity if you do this. E: pics required
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TBeats posted:I will donate $10 to any charity if you do this. Ok see you next week 
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Woof Blitzer posted:Ok see you next week doing the lord's work m8
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A Bad Poster posted:Be sure to put "Thank you for your service" at the end of each.
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