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hakimashou posted:Why don't they just ban the overbreeding of them if that's the real issue? It's not ok, it's just not something you can't legislate against, because you'll be crushed. People have loving stupid ideas about meat. WhiskeyWhiskers fucked around with this message at 04:07 on May 12, 2017 |
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I'd rather an actual blood sport stay banned, thank you very much. Or would you like to see badger/bull baiting and cock fighting make a return too. How about dog fights?
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Kokoro Wish posted:I'd rather an actual blood sport stay banned, thank you very much. Or would you like to see badger/bull baiting and cock fighting make a return too. Just fox hunts.
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I think Fox Hunt should be brought back, except instead of foxes it's posh people.
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hakimashou posted:Just fox hunts. Y'know what. gently caress off nazi.
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endlessmonotony posted:Y'know what. The nazis were against fox hunting: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1407954/Thanks-to-Hitler-hunting-with-hounds-is-still-verboten.html quote:Thanks to Hitler, hunting with hounds is still verboten
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hakimashou posted:The nazis were against fox hunting: I wish you'd disagree with Hitler on human rights issues and not animal rights.
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endlessmonotony posted:I wish you'd disagree with Hitler on human rights issues and not animal rights. I do though. Just because something is a meme in the thread doesn't mean it's true. This is the thread that thinks corbyn is good, remember.
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hakimashou posted:Just fox hunts. get tae gently caress please just get tae
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hakimashou posted:I do though. Just because something is a meme in the thread doesn't mean it's true. should the united states have used nuclear weapons on the soviet union at any point in history
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Just look at all the good that comes from hunting the fox. The people who make the clothes get work, the people who raise the dogs and tend to them, all the doggies get to have a nice life too, traipsing around in a pack chasing foxes. There's work to be done tending to the horses, making saddles and things. Local pubs and restaurants catering to all the folks who come out for it. And everyone in the village or whatever gets free entertainment, the spectacle of all the people in their finery on their pretty horses, the pack of dogs, it's good for spectators. And it's a wonderful connection to the past and britain's world-renowned rural culture. It's a community thing. quote:
http://www.mfha.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=62&Itemid=58 At the very least these decisions should be devolved to rural areas, since its only the people there that they affect. Whether fox hunts go on or not can make no difference to the life of any urbanite. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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R. Guyovich posted:should the united states have used nuclear weapons on the soviet union at any point in history Only if it would have saved more lives than it cost.
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hakimashou posted:Only if it would have saved more lives than it cost. are there any points in time in which that would be a realistic expectation
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R. Guyovich posted:are there any points in time in which that would be a realistic expectation I really don't know. Those years-ago posts probably wouldn't stand up to sober daylight hours standards of posting, and I ate a few probies over them, but what's all that weighed against the fun the folks in here have gotten to have dropping sick burns on me with them over and over? I figure for the brave and dedicated post-history-scourers, stumbling across it must be like breaking open King Tut's tomb; their eyes widen in the golden glow. hakimashou fucked around with this message at 05:34 on May 12, 2017 |
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hakimashou posted:Only if it would have saved more lives than it cost. gently caress off
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How many people even died in the Eastern bloc specifically due to Soviet policy after 1945? The famines were already over by that time. Definitely nowhere near the millions that would have died in a nuclear exchange and Soviet invasion of western Europe.
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I'm not pro-fox hunting, but the ban has had a hugely negative effect on the fox population in the country . Idiots on horseback were doing that thing where the weakest died and the population was being kept under control. farmers were not allowed to go out and kill them all because biffy and the lord of wankershire must have their fun. The c/hunt was banned and farmers simply go out and shoot every fox they can find, because foxes are nasty little shits who will shred any lamb they can get hold of, often leaving them alive, or kill a whole hen house full of chickens and just take one. Derbyshire could have told them that would happen, one of the Dukes of Devonshire who have traditionally been decent old boys who don't treat people like poo poo, didn't like fox hunting and banned it on his land (most of Derbyshire) because he thought it was barbaric, not just for the foxes but because horses are liable to lame themselves on dry stone walls. We have very very few foxes. It's what happens when you are hell bent on winning voters over as quickly as possible without listening to the civil service, and giving them time to come up with a solution.
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hakimashou posted:Just look at all the good that comes from hunting the fox. Imagine the benefit of starting our own gestapo, people could get work from making the uniforms, and they could hold parades and public executions as community events 
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Bacon Terrorist posted:Imagine the benefit of starting our own gestapo, people could get work from making the uniforms, and they could hold parades and public executions as community events I think comparing hunting foxes to the gestapo is kind of unseemly. Foxes are cool and all but they aren't people you know.
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hakimashou posted:Just look at all the good that comes from hunting the fox. Trail hunting suffices for all these things and is still legal. It's only an issue for those who absolutely must see an animal get torn to shreds at the end of the event.
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jabby posted:EDIT: Headlines from the Tory press tomorrow seem to focus on how many 'anonymous Labour sources' hate the manifesto and won't be campaigning on it. If this election actually ends up being remotely close the sheer incandescent rage of the membership towards the PLP is going to be quite something. Thought Experiment: Labour somehow get a majority in this election. Enough MPs defect to the Tories to give them a majority. What happens next?
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Chucat posted:Thought Experiment: "I choose violence"
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Hunts still gather so you can still see the traditional stuff for the tourists, it's just a glorified group ride now. Something like 250,000 people go out to watch the Boxing Day gatherings. The actual hunting of the foxes was always secondary to the pomp and pub going. I dislike it when right wingers use stuff like fox hunting as an example of the real disconnect between rural life and city life, and London's complete lack of tolerance or understanding of it. One of our local schools got put on a list because some twat from Ofsted thought that the 7 children in it weren't being exposed to enough non-white people or cultures in real life. They didn't think the kids were racist or being exposed to racism, it was simply beyond their comprehension that the children of farmers in the middle of the countryside might not have any non-white friends and would have to learn about other cultures from books or videos.
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Chucat posted:Thought Experiment: Confidence motion, government resigns, general election.
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hakimashou posted:I think comparing hunting foxes to the gestapo is kind of unseemly. It was more the point of how pathetic that reasoning sounds when justifying something evil.
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Chucat posted:Thought Experiment: Probably: Party Boat posted:Confidence motion, government resigns, general election. but the Queen/Privy Council do have the option of asking the Tories to form a Government rather than calling an election. It's incredibly unlikely and would probably result in the end of the prerogative but it is, theoretically, within the monarch's powers to do so.
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Chucat posted:Thought Experiment: Pigs fly.
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GaussianCopula posted:Pigs fly. Shut the gently caress up you nazi oval office (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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TheRat posted:Wow, this is really great! Polly Toynbee has it right, the manifesto is full of good and popular stuff but it doesn't matter if you haven't earned the credibility as a leader for people to believe you will be able to deliver it. e: ps. this is definitely the narrative the left needs to start churning in the background if it wants to survive. Accept Corbyn was a terrible leader, focus on how popular the manifesto was. The left deserves to try again with someone a bit more prepared for the job. Alchenar fucked around with this message at 08:47 on May 12, 2017 |
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How many more generations would Labour have had to held onto power for before the hunt ban became accepted as the norm?
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Fifteen million. E: to answer both the above questions.
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AP posted:How many extra Labour votes would we get by allowing 16-17 year olds to vote? I did some back of a fag packet numbers in the thread yesterday, if we generously assume the same turnout as 18-24 year olds in 2015 it's just under 650k voters, so an average of 1,000 per seat. So even if they all voted Labour it'd only make a difference in a handful of already-tight races.
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hakimashou posted:Bollocks You ever live in a rural area you Nazi gently caress? The Hunt shows up trespasses on private land (aided by their dipshit fans who go around opening gates to fields full of livestock). They block roads and refuse to move. A whole bunch of posh folks block up the roads parking on verges so they can watch some other toffs run about in a field. The worst part is they're just not allowed to hunt foxes with dogs. If they want to come along and be a bunch of arseholes they can do a drag hunt where a man runs a specific route scented up so the dogs will follow, they can keep off farms etc ... Where the fields are occupied and they can give their followers a rough guide of where they'll be at what time. The only difference is a small animal isn't either ripped to pieces or dies of exhaustion.
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Wow, engaging with the Nazi was really productive guys, some top debate here  I loved the polls showing the public agrees with Jezzas policies but also think his policies are unrealistic. British people are bad and dumb you guys.
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forkboy84 posted:Wow, engaging with the Nazi was really productive guys, some top debate here I don't get ideas above my station m'lud.
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Alchenar posted:Polly Toynbee has it right, the manifesto is full of good and popular stuff but it doesn't matter if you haven't earned the credibility as a leader for people to believe you will be able to deliver it. Some loving nerve Toynbee has. Spends 2 years making GBS threads on the leadership along with her poo poo newspaper and then comes out with 'yea the policies are good but people don't like corbyn For Some Reason' Also the idea that some other left leader with the same transformative policies would be treated better because they'd reply to buzzfeed emails quicker is so naive. Nearly as naive as the 'soft left' in the Labour party who are kidding themselves that this manifesto would have been delivered by Owen Smith or Yvette Cooper thehappyprince fucked around with this message at 09:02 on May 12, 2017 |
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thehappyprince posted:Some loving nerve Toynbee has. Spends 2 years making GBS threads on the leadership along with her poo poo newspaper and then comes out with 'yea the policies are good but people don't like corbyn For Some Reason' Look if you ever want to see success then you are going to have to drop the 'hero of the revolution' cult attitude and make a hard nosed assessment of what worked and what didn't. Corbyn's problems perhaps run a bit deeper than having a poor relationship with Buzzfeed.
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forkboy84 posted:Wow, engaging with the Nazi was really productive guys, some top debate here if/when he loses just sit back and watch this get spun as, "well obviously the problem with jeremy corbyn was he said some remotely left-of-centre things sometimes"
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