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Will Jon Jones ever fight in the UFC again? This poll is closed. |
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rumor has it kelvin's fighting weidman. kelvin will win too.
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May 12, 2017 09:44
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Unfunny Poster posted:It is awesome that half of Garbrandts TUF team got eliminated. that loving poetry bit caused me actual pain After we watched it my wife said "I think Jesse Taylor has an acquired brain injury".
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May 12, 2017 12:58
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Joe Daddy is a poet, and he knows it.
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May 12, 2017 13:21
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Cody Garbrandt blowing his load early, you say?
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May 12, 2017 14:20
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WEIGH INS MUTHAFUCKAS ARIEL HELWANI COMMENTATING IN HUSHED TONES: http://www.mmafighting.com/2017/5/12/15626786/ufc-211-weigh-in-video
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May 12, 2017 15:01
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The genetic passport is lovely because a fighter can fail retroactively and be punished because certain "levels" have "changed." IMO it's unethical to find guilt when they haven't even identified that a banned substance was taken to begin with. Bad analogy incoming It'd be like the police comparing your bank statements and salary from 5 years ago and determining that you had too much money running through your account, therefore you are guilty of armed robbery.
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May 12, 2017 15:07
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Marching Powder posted:rumor has it kelvin's fighting weidman. kelvin will win too. Maybe Kelvin was the savior all along? I'd like him to smash weidman and call out jon jones, lol
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May 12, 2017 15:08
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Jared Gordon vs. Michel Quinones cancelled according to Helwani.
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May 12, 2017 15:10
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No drama so far. Maia looked kinda hosed up IMO but made weight.
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May 12, 2017 15:17
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Masvidal has to get nekkid but weighs in at 171.
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May 12, 2017 15:22
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tesilential posted:IMO it's unethical to find guilt when they haven't even identified that a banned substance was taken to begin with. Except they did find a banned substance.
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May 12, 2017 15:27
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tesilential posted:The genetic passport is lovely because a fighter can fail retroactively and be punished because certain "levels" have "changed." IMO it's unethical to find guilt when they haven't even identified that a banned substance was taken to begin with. You don't get flagged for levels changing on the genetic passport, you get tested for drugs that they don't normally test for but that might have caused the change. It's like you signing an agreement to let the police monitor your bank statements and pay stubs, and if they find any anomalies, they investigate further. Don't abuse analogies when you haven't even read the article.
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May 12, 2017 15:27
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tesilential posted:The genetic passport is lovely because a fighter can fail retroactively and be punished because certain "levels" have "changed." IMO it's unethical to find guilt when they haven't even identified that a banned substance was taken to begin with. Thats not what happens, they keep your old samples and if levels change suspiciously they can re-test the old samples with a better idea of what theyre looking for. Penne got flagged because of unusual variation in the passport and they went back and tested an old sample and found a banned substance A better analogy is that they look at your bank statement and you have too much money running through your account so they look into it and find out you committed armed robbery, therefore you are guilty of armed robbery
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May 12, 2017 15:31
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lol, beaten
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May 12, 2017 15:31
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Medical surveillance is bad but were talking about people beating each other up for entertainment, its probably less concerning that some sanctioning body has your hematocrit levels on record than if they half-assed the drug testing like in other sports and the guy making 11/11 gets his head caved in by a guy who can afford to abuse designer PEDs
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May 12, 2017 15:38
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Now Jon Anik has joined Helwani. This is like an ASMR video about beating the poo poo out of people Edit: Vick also makes weight via getting nekkid
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May 12, 2017 15:38
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I'm not talking about Penne. I recall reading the actual USADA policy regarding Genetic passport and it explicitly stated if things seem out of whack they could punish a fighter without actually identifying which banned substance was taken. Could be recalling incorrectly but I remember that standing out at the time, will try to find the quote again.
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May 12, 2017 15:40
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manyak posted:Medical surveillance is bad but were talking about people beating each other up for entertainment, its probably less concerning that some sanctioning body has your hematocrit levels on record than if they half-assed the drug testing like in other sports and the guy making 11/11 gets his head caved in by a guy who can afford to abuse designer PEDs It absolutely surprises me to this day that when the UFC realised they should probably clean things up a bit, instead of calling whoever the NFL uses for their "testing", they got USADA on the phone and agreed to their prices.
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May 12, 2017 15:41
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Can't wait until 2060 when testing has advanced to the point USADA can backtest to prove that Everyone is on Steroids and all fights are ruled NC.
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May 12, 2017 15:44
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UFC hall of famer Josh Barnett 0-0-43
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May 12, 2017 15:45
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Alvarez, Miocic, JDS and JJ still to weigh in.
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May 12, 2017 15:46
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tesilential posted:I'm not talking about Penne. They can in theory but they dont really. It wouldnt hold up when the athlete appeals unless there was a ton of evidence . Its happened a few times when someones hormone levels go up 10x overnight or something that cant be explained physiologically by any other means, and at that point its not really any different than conventional drug testing that looks for biological markers of drug use 99% of the cases they see some suspicious levels and they retest the sample and find something
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May 12, 2017 15:48
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Stipe weighed in fine, 246.2
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May 12, 2017 15:55
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its no good for anyone involved if someone gets wrongly sanctioned so youll hardly ever see it happen. even in cases where the athlete was probably on something it can end in disaster for the doping agency and the promotion if it cant be proven beyond doubt, cyclist roberto heras was recently awarded the equivalent of $1 million for successfully appealing an EPO sanction, despite testing positive for EPO
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May 12, 2017 15:59
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Just JJ, JDS and Alvarez now. Not sure if Pettis needs to weigh in to get his show money? Quinones just did.
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May 12, 2017 16:00
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There's a dog, best weigh-in livestream of all time. lol, Eddie's face when the official said "one fifty-six point... zero". Memento fucked around with this message at 16:12 on May 12, 2017 |
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May 12, 2017 16:07
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Alvarez makes weight.
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May 12, 2017 16:12
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Hopefully JJ isn't the latest fighter to fall afoul of the Embedded curse
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May 12, 2017 16:13
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30mins left for JDS and JJ to weigh in I think.
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May 12, 2017 16:31
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Probably a dumb question, but why would JDS not have weighed in yet since he fights like 30 pounds under the heavyweight limit? Is he just running late or something?
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May 12, 2017 16:35
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My first thought when I saw jj eating that cupcake was that she's hosed and not making weight. Andrade will win
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May 12, 2017 16:36
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Power of Pecota posted:Probably a dumb question, but why would JDS not have weighed in yet since he fights like 30 pounds under the heavyweight limit? Is he just running late or something? That's what has been confusing me as well. He's not a massive HW.
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May 12, 2017 16:36
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you only get a fine for showing up late anyway .. its not exactly dramatic. and i think the champ gets an extra few hours in an emergency anyway
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May 12, 2017 16:38
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JDS makes weight.
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May 12, 2017 16:44
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Joanna being real late is a bit worrying especially after tons of shots in the Embedded of her eating seemingly a decent amount of junk food.
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May 12, 2017 16:44
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She made the weight, looks like a tough cut as she does seem to be visibly shaking. I'd say more money may start coming in on Andrade now.
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May 12, 2017 16:50
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JJ defeats the Embedded curse and makes weight.
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May 12, 2017 16:50
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JJ 115.0, looks like grim death
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May 12, 2017 16:50
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she coulda made an effort to stay much bigger this camp bc she knows andrajde is gonna push her around. she also abandoned her usual intimidation tactics in the buildup, which is interesting. Jessica's assessment had a realistic candor that makes me think she has a good chance. she straight up says that jj is the more complete fighter but that shes going to be afraid of getting hit
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May 12, 2017 17:04
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I.N.R.I posted:its no good for anyone involved if someone gets wrongly sanctioned so youll hardly ever see it happen. even in cases where the athlete was probably on something it can end in disaster for the doping agency and the promotion if it cant be proven beyond doubt, cyclist roberto heras was recently awarded the equivalent of $1 million for successfully appealing an EPO sanction, despite testing positive for EPO Isn't that because of false positives? One of the reason cycling was so obviously doped to the gills was that every single test ever was coming up negative, if the tests were legitimate and no one was doping, you would randomly get a false positive and have to retest the sample. That's got nothing to do with the biological passport which, for instance, says your testosterone has been between 600-2100, a bit above normal human range but with enough scope to be realistic your whole life, and if you suddenly start hitting 10000, something fucky is going on, even if you don't test positive for Test roids blood sample wise. They have to do this because there is a Testosterone that you literally can't catch in someone's blood if you don't test them whilst they are using it that very second and can be flushed very easily out of the system.
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May 12, 2017 17:25
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