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El Gallinero Gros posted:I know he was a multi-time world champ in WWE, but you have to question the judgment of any promoter, at this point, who looks at Alberto, and thinks "Yes, this man can help me make money". Like say what you will about people who booked guys like Jake Roberts and Scott Hall, but they were both bigger stars who had the potential to draw in casual fans. I doubt that's the case with Del Rio, at least outside of Mexico where his family are pretty prominent. You can put him on the poster, he won't show up, and then you don't have to pay him. Sounds like a steal to me.
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Under the vegetable posted:You can put him on the poster, he won't show up, and then you don't have to pay him. Sounds like a steal to me. Yeah but nobody is going to a show because he's on the poster, though. I liked Del Rio at first but if my local indy advertised him I wouldn't bother.
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oldpainless posted:Did Alberto draw any money in the US for any promotions? after he was first released I think he led to a short-term increase in ROH business
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Mulaney Power Move posted:hard to believe that not too long ago adr was a surprise opponent for cena on a ppv and beat him clean for a title. was that even a year ago? And that he was coming in because he was a really loving hot commodity on the indies and in Mexico.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Yeah but nobody is going to a show because he's on the poster, though. I liked Del Rio at first but if my local indy advertised him I wouldn't bother. Uh hell yes I'm going I might get to see Paige Who knows how many more months that'll even be possible
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remusclaw posted:And that he was coming in because he was a really loving hot commodity on the indies and in Mexico. He had a lot of sympathy and good will with fans because his 1st departure from WWE was completely bullshit. I think WWE brought him back just for the express purpose of killing off any drawing potential he might have.
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Definitely does seem like career sabotage with the really bad Meximerican angle. It really doesn't get much worse than that. Also he really really really hates HHH for some reason. There's got to be more than just HHH trying to wedge himself between ADR and Paige.
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I guess you guys have really high class Indies near you if you think ADR wouldn't be a draw. I have seen places who still book Eugene
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I guess you guys have really high class Indies near you if you think ADR wouldn't be a draw. Tbf Eugene was more over than Alberto.
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My local indie is booking Jack Swagger next month, so that's one Mexamerican down!
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Malcolm Excellent posted:Book Eugene vs Del Patron for the Join The Force title Eugene's too busy booking his lil BFE fed, that somehow does 2-3k gates.
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I'm glad Eugene's story got a happy ending.
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Eugene's indie promotion is what qualifies as 'big' in the South Dakota/Iowa/Nebraska market.
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EverettLO posted:Eugene's indie promotion is what qualifies as 'big' in the South Dakota/Iowa/Nebraska market. Any indy that gets over 500 tickets is a pretty loving big indy. Think of how many promotions are considered bigger but don't regularly get 2,500 customers. Impact, PWG, Evolve all spring to mind.
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Super No Vacancy posted:wait is eugene the second best promoter in the country Whichever wrestling promoter makes the most money after WWE is the best promoter, so you'd need to go into profit margins. And people say there is no money in indy wrestling.....but I wouldn't be surprised if some of the people who run promotions and/or schools are doing quite well but paying their talent negligible amounts. If it wasn't for the fact that it's a lot of work to be a promoter, the kind of scummy carny poo poo most promoters do would make Del Rio a perfect fit!
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Super No Vacancy posted:wait is eugene the second best promoter in the country James Ellsworth is since he parlayed into a Smackdown gig.
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https://twitter.com/adr_fans/status/859506405530681344 Swagger and Del Rio headlining three nights in Mexico
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So Swagger will win all three matches by forfeit
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Nah, it's a winner leaves town match, Alberto wins by default.
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jack swagger is still jack swagger? i thought it was really hard to keep your wwe name, which is why ultimate warrior and ryback legally changed their names to warrior and ryback, respectively. i still would have changed my name to "dick swagger" if i was him. hell, i still might.
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It's Mexico. You can be whoever you want, like a Ninja Turtle or a Los Simpsons.
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Luigi Thirty posted:It's Mexico. You can be whoever you want, like a Ninja Turtle or a Los Simpsons. Now I really want a Raphael turtle in costume but in his flasher trench coat and fedora to come out through the crowd and interfere in a match. Only to be topped by a Kevin Nash dressed as Super Shredder. gently caress it just have Vanilla Ice on commentary too.
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Chris James 2 posted:https://twitter.com/adr_fans/status/859506405530681344 Swagger and Del Rio headlining three nights in Mexico Too bad Dutch Mantel is back with TNA
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Del Rio did an interview with WrestlingIncOn Ryback claiming promotions won't do well in India because people are poor posted:*laughs* That really makes me laugh. To be honest, I really like Ryback. He's a guy that...*laughs* I mean, I like the guy, he's a nice person. But I mean - it's ridiculous that someone like him, who hasn't done much in the business...he had some good times. In WWE, he had some good moments, he had a good run, he had a good career. But he hasn't really done anything in this business yet. And I'm putting this in the nicest way because I like the guy. I don't want to disrespect the guy. But his comment is completely stupid. On how he said the last interview he had there he'd be in the business for maybe 3 more years and is that still true posted:Yes, definitely. Definitely. I'm not going to be doing this for too long. I'm tired, I'm just tired. I'm going to stop doing so many shows outside of the US. I'm going to come back to India anytime they need me with Impact Wrestling. But I'm not going to do so many shows in Europe. I just cancelled one of the shows in Chile. On his future posted:Well, I'm going to retire from pro wrestling soon. And if everything goes well, I will stay at Impact working as an agent, a producer.
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Is Ryback wrong about India? I thought that's why Ring Ka King ended.
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Malcolm Excellent posted:Is Ryback wrong about India? I thought that's why Ring Ka King ended. I'd think that if his logic were true Mexico's wrestling industry would have died long ago. The peso crashed in '94 but all that meant was that less gringos were booked, the industry survived. I would also think Ring Ka King died because it was being run by TNA.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I would also think Ring Ka King died because it was being run by TNA.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I'd think that if his logic were true Mexico's wrestling industry would have died long ago. The peso crashed in '94 but all that meant was that less gringos were booked, the industry survived. I would also think Ring Ka King died because it was being run by TNA. I don't think Ryback is that wrong with what he meant. India can have a wrestling industry, but WWE is at the awkward level of it's not expensive, but not cheap either. Per Capita income in India is $1,570 a year, and typically wrestling fans fall on the lower level of the economic spectrum. If the WWE network is 10% of your year's wages, it's less palatable. Chris James 2 posted:Del Rio did an interview with WrestlingInc He really thinks going with TNA long term is the best of ideas? Oh wait, it's an interview while at TNA, it means nothing.
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There is an Indian middle class with insane amounts of disposable income. Income taht they didn't have even half a generation ago. But will they spend that money on wrestling is teh question. I would argue no. The IPL already exists as a way to strip money from over-cashed Indians wanting something flashy, fake and almost a sport.
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I don't know what any of that poo poo means but Ryback is probably closer to the truth, Jinder is something different but I don't see the India scene suddenly exploding because of him right now. They're basically relying on a WCW style pop of the ratings when David Arquette became champion where almost everyone just thinks it's kind of silly. Especially when Jinder's gimmick is teetering on Muhhamad Hassan's and I think they're almost banking on Americans to be too stupid to know the difference between a middle eastern and an Indian because they're both brown and speaking a foreign language which is a problem in itself.
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RealFoxy posted:Especially when Jinder's gimmick is teetering on Muhhamad Hassan's and I think they're almost banking on Americans to be too stupid to know the difference between a middle eastern and an Indian because they're both brown and speaking a foreign language which is a problem in itself. There's probably a significant portion of the audience that's upset a "filthy muzzie" is champ I'd bet.
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Jinder is so bad on the mic I wish they would muzzle him
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C. Everett Koop posted:There's probably a significant portion of the audience that's upset a "filthy muzzie" is champ I'd bet. Really? I mean, how many people really can't tell the difference? I'm yet to see anyone (here or in real life) make this mistake about Jinder.
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061469 posted:Really? I mean, how many people really can't tell the difference?
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061469 posted:Really? I mean, how many people really can't tell the difference? Someone in the goon discord unironically went "Have Sami Zayn come out and say that the fans can't be racist, because they like me!" so it is definitely A Thing.
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