|
Hey everyone. I'm here cause I care or I'm full blown gay or whatever. Let's talk about the absurd qualities that win fights here. I think it could help some people. Otherwise, let's stick to our thread topics. I think Askren has an intangible people can't pin down. I'd like to talk about that.
|
#
?
May 16, 2017 07:23
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 25, 2024 19:01 |
|
|
My favorite absurd qualities that win fights are knockouts, followed by submissions.
|
|
#
?
May 16, 2017 07:31
|
|
|
beggar posted:My favorite absurd qualities that win fights are knockouts, followed by submissions. What made Fedor good at that and what made Fedor bad at that? I want your opinion, not a link. Unless it's funny.
|
|
#
?
May 16, 2017 07:32
|
|
|
Who?
|
|
#
?
May 16, 2017 07:35
|
|
|
beggar posted:Who? Word.
|
|
#
?
May 16, 2017 07:38
|
|
|
What the hell is the point of this thread?
|
|
#
?
May 16, 2017 21:39
|
|
|
I'm not sure what's happening here, but I assume Tim Elliot fits.
|
|
#
?
May 16, 2017 22:03
|
|
|
Cyber Dog posted:I'm not sure what's happening here, but I assume Tim Elliot fits. does the elephant man ever break free and start an internet thread? never seen the movie. if he did, it would be this
|
|
#
?
May 16, 2017 22:07
|
|
|
I'm pretty sure he's wanting to talk about strategic things relating to fights. A thread dedicated to fight breakdowns, analysis, and discussion. This would, :ofcourse:, be assisted by a larger opening. In the interest of furthering the discussion, here's BJJ Scout's breakdown of some Ben Askren stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO1kS8wmP2Y
|
|
#
?
May 16, 2017 22:08
|
|
|
Bundt Cake posted:does the elephant man ever break free and start an internet thread? never seen the movie. if he did, it would be this the bad thing about arguing with elephant man on the internet is that he never forgets
|
|
#
?
May 17, 2017 03:21
|
|
|
Captain Log posted:What made Fedor good at that and what made Fedor bad at that? I want your opinion, not a link. Unless it's funny. racism is what made fedor really good at that, but the thing that made fedor bad at that was all the racism
|
|
#
?
May 17, 2017 03:23
|
|
|
DumbWhiteGuy posted:racism is what made fedor really good at that, but the thing that made fedor bad at that was all the racism he also had really good timing to duck josh barnett and really good hips to dodge fighting josh barnett and instead fight a kid what got turned into an adult via a cursed fortune telling machine
|
|
#
?
May 17, 2017 04:08
|
|
|
|
|
#
?
May 17, 2017 04:31
|
|
|
I'm running the moneyballs on MMA I'm still crunching data, but according to my research so far, the best strategy is to be Travis Fulton
|
|
#
?
May 17, 2017 04:48
|
|
|
That's what this thread is for. That stare. Do any of you guys use a heuristic approach to picking fights? I fundamentally cannot do well at MMA and blow other sports sky high. Probably the punching. DumbWhiteGuy posted:the bad thing about arguing with elephant man on the internet is that he never forgets Literally. I got "diagnosed" with a photographic memory because of the grappling thread. . Everything here feels like a light hearted conversation to me. I like that vibe.
|
|
#
?
May 17, 2017 14:43
|
|
|
|
|
#
?
May 17, 2017 18:22
|
|
|
 this is what cage fighting is right
|
|
#
?
May 17, 2017 18:29
|
|
|
I remember hearing somewhere about a sport called bangarang. Basically it's bareknuckle boxing bu tyou're only allowed to hit people in the head. Did I make this up? Like is this a thing? Also, is there a kind of fighting where only headbutting is allowed? I'd watch that. Thanks
|
|
#
?
May 17, 2017 18:31
|
|
|
|
|
#
?
May 17, 2017 19:26
|
|
|
Cavauro posted:I remember hearing somewhere about a sport called bangarang. Basically it's bareknuckle boxing bu tyou're only allowed to hit people in the head. Did I make this up? Like is this a thing? You're looking for something called "Ultimate Surrender", check it out
|
|
#
?
May 18, 2017 00:01
|
|
|
Cavauro posted:I remember hearing somewhere about a sport called bangarang. Basically it's bareknuckle boxing bu tyou're only allowed to hit people in the head. Did I make this up? Like is this a thing? Chuck Liddell was way more drugged out than I've been in my life, since I quit drinking years ago. If the forums are too thin that's not my fault. Sometimes laughing is the bravest because life is actually way more stupid than this slice of real estate. You just need to know a bad investment. Did anyone worth a good God drat come out of that Russian hobo fighting are whatever they call a skirmish fighting in Russia. Isn't Russian MMA about as open human cockfighting as a country can get? Seems like the one place that would pay for that skill. I think old stupid videos are important right now. If I ever figure out how to Roidtech a fight, you guys will be the first to see me get headkicked in person. I appreciate that.
|
|
#
?
May 18, 2017 01:37
|
|
|
DumbWhiteGuy posted:You're looking for something called "Ultimate Surrender", check it out I love this place.
|
|
#
?
May 18, 2017 01:37
|
|
|
DumbWhiteGuy posted:You're looking for something called "Ultimate Surrender", check it out Man the No Retreat, No Surrender series took a weird turn....
|
|
#
?
May 18, 2017 07:24
|
|
|
Teruto Ishihara is an exciting prospect who lost a fight with T. rex when he was asked to tone down his horniness in interviews
|
|
#
?
May 18, 2017 08:35
|
|
|
SquirrelGrip posted:Teruto Ishihara is an exciting prospect who lost a fight with T. rex when he was asked to tone down his horniness in interviews I have real poo poo working knowledge of the Japan part of that era. Worth a watch?
|
|
#
?
May 18, 2017 17:04
|
|
|
Teruto Ishihara trains with Team Alpha Male.
|
|
#
?
May 18, 2017 17:28
|
|
|
Sometimes I worry about you being very dense, but I also forget your brain is real broken, almost as bad as the rest of your joints.
|
|
#
?
May 18, 2017 17:28
|
|
|
Captain Log posted:I have real poo poo working knowledge of the Japan part of that era. Worth a watch? I'd say watch Ishihara vs Erosa from 196 and vs Guitierrez from Some Fight Night insteas
|
|
#
?
May 18, 2017 17:42
|
|
|
Captain Log posted:Hey everyone. Ben has good cardio and is excellent in scrambles. He is good and experienced in situations/positions that most people don't spend a lot of time training. I don't know what his intangibles would be
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2017 16:04
|
|
|
Ben pledges allegiance to the funk of the united funk of funkadelica. That's the grappling version of having footwork like cruz. I don't know anyone here OP but I've seen over time that you know your fencing and that lately you're interested in Danaher as a coach. I've seen you express interest in modern day knight fights like M1 Medieval too, so I think maybe you should look into coaching some fencing. It's a way to keep a foot in the water you can't swim in anymore, and who would want to get slashed, rofl, in the helm for a living?
|
|
#
?
May 22, 2017 22:43
|
|
|
Chillanese posted:Ben pledges allegiance to the funk of the united funk of funkadelica. That's the grappling version of having footwork like cruz. Did the brain worm that took over Log get you too?
|
|
#
?
May 22, 2017 22:45
|
|
|
Bundt Cake posted:Did the brain worm that took over Log get you too? I don't know him 0.o that's not nice. I posted that because of his brain worm or whatever the story is. He knows fencing and he's been asking about coaching vs competing so it's like hey man maybe coach some fencing. I have no idea what the Askren question was so I just said something about funk being a codeword for being a professional spaz. That's my fight theory for this very important thread.
|
|
#
?
May 22, 2017 23:46
|
|
|
DumbWhiteGuy posted:the bad thing about arguing with elephant man on the internet is that he never forgets RIP fatherdog
|
|
#
?
May 23, 2017 00:02
|
|
|
I don't know if this is fight theory or just masturbatory pontificating, but I kinda like some of this guy's videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gzfzm-9n_Fo
|
|
#
?
May 23, 2017 03:48
|
|
|
its masturbatory pontificating by some guy who probably never trained to be halfway good at something in his life .. that kind of thing is just a delusionary narrative on the part of the audience, or the promotion selling fights, or the fighters themselves like in the case of some ecuadorian (unsure) submission artist i saw in some fight night card over a year ago, who was fighting to get his kid out of poverty, his kid had some kind of disease or something. i believe he got submitted after having a point taken from him for grabbing the fence a bunch. if only he loved his kid more maybe he would have won, right? its really because the other guy was better than him though.
|
|
#
?
May 23, 2017 05:38
|
|
|
99% of the intangible mental stuff people talk about is dumb as hell, at least at the UFC level, because nobody reaches that point without being really psychologically suited for the fight game. There are only a few people who I've seen in the UFC in the past few years who I think just aren't fighters at heart. Anthony Johnson is one. He made it to the very top on sheer talent but really didn't have the mental game to be a fighter and would basically crumble when his opponents managed to fight back. Or maybe he did, I don't know the man and I've never done anything like what he has. I wouldn't actually bet on a fight based on "Anthony Johnson has no heart", though the no heart factor might have contributed to things like him fading and not fighting back after long grappling exchanges. Most psychological things about fighters tend to be more related to adjustment/fight IQ. Like I think Vitor tends to just quit 7 minutes into a fight because he's never really developed a Plan B beyond "murder this guy with lots of punches". Or more generally, front runners who fall apart when things don't work are just experiencing a failure of fight IQ. Someone like Matt Brown has a "lot of heart" because he's used to getting in a lot of trouble early in fights and gutting it out to win anyway. Erick Silva's early fight career was just him murking guys, so he didn't really have an answer when he fought less naturally gifted guys like Fitch and Brown who just kept getting up after he hurt them bad. basically you can make judgments about fight IQ and durability, but not about heart
|
|
#
?
May 23, 2017 05:57
|
|
|
Guys. It's time for some game theory. The optimal solution is a Nash equilibrium where two fighters have a fair fight and are both motivated to win the fight. I contend that this can only be accomplished when each fighter has a gun.
|
|
#
?
May 23, 2017 09:29
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 25, 2024 19:01 |
|
|
God did not make all men equal, but Samuel Colt did.
|
|
#
?
May 23, 2017 16:06
|
|