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Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


Lumpen posted:

This is not a coherent argument. The points you made on Gulag were valid whether he's your Scumbuddy or not. He remains a good lynch choice on that meta.

oh, so the points I made were valid, but not sincere? You are so full of poo poo trying to craft up something from nothing cause you guys wanna get me lynched soooo bad

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Lumpen
Apr 2, 2004

I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.
Plaster Town Cop

Bifauxnen posted:

god you're dense

Stickup should be confirming that "bif why'd you kill chaoslord" was just a start-of-day joke and NOT a track/watch claim in the first place, because Stick cannot have such data.

btw I can think of one person who should be able to verify that I did no such thing last night. And it should be safe to claim because it's not anything they did with their role, but something I did to them.

...at least, I think they'd have to know it was me? ;)
If you're going to claim, claim.

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


Lumpen posted:

If you're going to claim, claim.

nuh uh gently caress you this way is more fun

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay

Mr. F! posted:

Are you even playing this game?

We all fought a long, bloody war for our liberty to free ourselves from systems, nations, norms and ages, but no matter how hard we fought, the only liberty we found was on the inside, trapped within those limits...

Gehn and I may have taken different paths but in the end, we were both trapped inside the same cage... "Liberty." But you have been given freedom.
Freedom to be... Outside.

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


it is so hard to contain my glee rn, must distract self with more Myst recaps

Bifauxnen posted:

Previously, on peraMYST:

No Murders, No Bamboozles… yet. Spoilers: it wouldn’t last long.



Near the cabin, Kaywinnet and Zulea found a grave, which they dug up for loot. They found another Myst linking book, which would surely come in handy. But something was missing now from Kaywinnet’s inventory - her self-defense pistol!



It was stolen by Amaretto Groody, a shady wanted man who had somehow got into this expedition because…??? :shrug:
But he tried to play it off as being all chaotic good, and used the pistol to shoot open the lock on the cabin door. The rest of the island went into a panic, demanding answers after the gunshot rang out. But let’s table that for now! Kaywinnet found an amazing new weapon in the cabin: a D’Ni dagger made from some special alloy. And it was pinning up an ominous note…



Back at the library, the group determined that someone had to go turn on the power generator before anyone could get anything done around here. Chell volunteered to do this, attracting a small crowd of fanboys who all wanted to keep her beefy warrior rear end protected. (and also religious scam artist Sara Friedricks who was just trying to pickpocket people)



Meanwhile, on the docks, Zan tried to experiment with things, and started throwing rocks at all the mysterious technology that he really shouldn’t be throwing rocks at.



It set off some kind of electric trap that zapped Kaywinnet over at the cabin. She was wounded by this injury! Worst brother ever! But did he get hit by a trap as well? Zulea reported seeing Zan collapse on the docks.



A small team from the library was left to go investigate what happened. Annie would go with her sister Dr. Leanansidhe Carter, (just call her Lea for short) hoping to find cool technology there once the power was on. They were escorted by the archer/religious nutter Schelene Strangeland, a valued customer at the Carters’ store. All 3 were on high alert, ready to pounce on any potential attackers. Was there already a murder or bamboozle afoot?

Soaring Kestrel
Nov 7, 2009

For Whiterock.
Fun Shoe

Lumpen posted:

If you're going to claim, claim.

Bifauxnen posted:

btw I can think of one person who should be able to verify that I did no such thing last night.

I'll wait for sticks to check in regarding start of day, but I feel like bif wouldn't say something like this unless she believed it was true

Forcing a claim can wait until we get a little more info about what sticks knows or doesn't know, and probably until a bit later in the day anyway. If the prevailing opinion at the moment is wrong and Bif's town, forcing a claim this early in the day seems like a bad idea.

Lumpen
Apr 2, 2004

I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.
Plaster Town Cop

Bifauxnen posted:

oh, so the points I made were valid, but not sincere? You are so full of poo poo trying to craft up something from nothing cause you guys wanna get me lynched soooo bad
Yes, valid but not sincere. You made valid points about Gulag's meta but your posts seem insincere to me, you lack sincere Scumhunting, a demonstration of a sincere desire or interest in lynching Scum. You made a good point, but did not keep your vote on Gulag or press your case. If he's a Scumbuddy, that's distancing. If he's really a Miller, that's trialballooning.

You posted a bunch, and the loreposting is really cool, but it is not focused on lynching Scum.

Now you're awkwardly and overemotionally flailing and OMGUS'ing. Stickup's case on you is an example of actual good and sincere Scumhunting effort. And you're saying he's Scum?? That's pure OMGUS, and Scummy, because he's pretty drat obviously Town just based on that effortcase.

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


Lumpen posted:

Yes, valid but not sincere. You made valid points about Gulag's meta but your posts seem insincere to me, you lack sincere Scumhunting, a demonstration of a sincere desire or interest in lynching Scum. You made a good point, but did not keep your vote on Gulag or press your case. If he's a Scumbuddy, that's distancing. If he's really a Miller, that's trialballooning.

You posted a bunch, and the loreposting is really cool, but it is not focused on lynching Scum.

Now you're awkwardly and overemotionally flailing and OMGUS'ing. Stickup's case on you is an example of actual good and sincere Scumhunting effort. And you're saying he's Scum?? That's pure OMGUS, and Scummy, because he's pretty drat obviously Town just based on that effortcase.

nah you'll see :buddy:

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


Flying Leatherman posted:

I'll wait for sticks to check in regarding start of day, but I feel like bif wouldn't say something like this unless she believed it was true

Forcing a claim can wait until we get a little more info about what sticks knows or doesn't know, and probably until a bit later in the day anyway. If the prevailing opinion at the moment is wrong and Bif's town, forcing a claim this early in the day seems like a bad idea.

also I'm not forcing a claim cause there is NOTHING TO CLAIM, Sticks made some random throwaway comment that Mr F totally misinterpreted as a claim, and Stickup never bothered to clarify.

Jump King
Aug 10, 2011

the cheese is a good touch

Soaring Kestrel
Nov 7, 2009

For Whiterock.
Fun Shoe

Bifauxnen posted:

also I'm not forcing a claim cause there is NOTHING TO CLAIM, Sticks made some random throwaway comment that Mr F totally misinterpreted as a claim, and Stickup never bothered to clarify.

I'm not saying you're forcing a claim, I'm saying Lumpen is trying to force out a claim from you :)

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


Lumpen posted:

because he's pretty drat obviously Town just based on that effortcase.

You didn't call Pod town based on his effortcase yesterday. Length means poo poo if the content is confected garbage. "I don't buy this level of pushy"?

Do you know who you're talking to?

Soaring Kestrel
Nov 7, 2009

For Whiterock.
Fun Shoe

Flying Leatherman posted:

I'm not saying you're forcing a claim, I'm saying Lumpen is trying to force out a claim from you :)

well, maybe not force out, but encourage might be a better word?

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


Flying Leatherman posted:

well, maybe not force out, but encourage might be a better word?

right, right. There's no reason to force a claim out of me when all I'm trying to prove is that someone can likely figure out I did (some action) on them, instead of chaoslord.

So according to Lumpen, we're NOT supposed to push Stickup to "claim" by simply correcting a misunderstanding, but it's cool to rolefish the hell out of me when not needed at all

nice logic there huh

Lumpen
Apr 2, 2004

I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.
Plaster Town Cop

Bifauxnen posted:

You didn't call Pod town based on his effortcase yesterday. Length means poo poo if the content is confected garbage. "I don't buy this level of pushy"?

Do you know who you're talking to?
Yeah, I'm calling Podima likely SCUM.

I calls 'em like I sees 'em.


Who's Scum and why, Bif? Gimme your top 3. Or a full-roster LumpenList if you're feeling super sassy and you want to show you're definitely Town after all and this is all a big ol' misunderstanding.

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay
Bifauxnen isn't scum

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


Lumpen posted:

Yeah, I'm calling Podima likely SCUM.

I calls 'em like I sees 'em.


Who's Scum and why, Bif? Gimme your top 3. Or a full-roster LumpenList if you're feeling super sassy and you want to show you're definitely Town after all and this is all a big ol' misunderstanding.

yeah you got it lumpface

You, Lumpen are scum #1
Cause all you did yesterday was make the exact same cases as me - Pod and Gulag, and your case on Pod was much shorter while your case on Gulag was loving identical to mine: pulling the same scumclaim poo poo he did in FF4, and Pod But somehow, somehow, mine are just worded less "sincerely" so my efforts don't count while yours do. You're trying to craft something from nothing so all you got is projecting.

Next up is Stickup for similarly crafting a total poo poo case - he's played with me enough to know I do the town cheerleader and admin stuff as both scum and town no matter what, and that I'm pushy as all hell. Combine that with the shady poo poo about acting like he might have data on me, but it's easily played off as a joke if pressed. People may also wish to note, MT was playing around with casting some tentative votes on me yesterday, while joking around with Stickup. Testing the waters perhaps. I am known as easily riled.

Next up is Pod for similar poo poo yesterday, but he's down the list a bit now.

Next up is Gulag - I'm less inclined to think he's scum now just cause you were pushing him and I think you're scummy as all hell. But I still really don't like him loving around with this claiming human poo poo, and hope he doesn't coast on it till endgame again.

Quidthulhu hasn't posted much but might be buttering me up. Probably just town but he'd be next for me to look at.

Kashuno is total unknown as Max didn't post much before tagging out.
Cat is similar

Moatillata is always hard to tell, seems to just be chilling out as usual but I have no reason to see him as scummy yet

Birb is my bud and he seems to be just having fun instead of pushing any serious agenda, hoping he's town

Inf sounds like clueless town as usual.

FL sounds townie in trying to suss things out.

Mr. F is confirmed now I believe.

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay
I'm neither town nor scum. I'm outside.

Mr. F!
Sep 21, 2016

Birdstrike posted:

I'm neither town nor scum. I'm outside.

Just claim your role, poo poo or get off the pot. jeez lol

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay

Mr. F! posted:

Just claim your role, poo poo or get off the pot. jeez lol

*hands you a tape*

Mr. F!
Sep 21, 2016

Birdstrike posted:

*hands you a tape*



Ty

GulagDolls
Jun 4, 2011

##vote lumpen I saw hi mvoting for me, during this game

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay
It was easy to be pacifist in Oregon Trail where we as scum controlled the violence.

All I have now are my no-lynch and my philosophy. This is a new degree of difficulty, but I believe in us.

Mr F., imagine a world where you're truly free. That's what I'm trying to show you.

A world without wincons.

win together

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay
The tape is playing
---------------------------------------
FROM: Podima
SUBJECT: Don't be a jerk

quote:

Podima wrote on Apr 21, 2017 10:18:
Pera specifically asked for no spectator-posting in her game! :nono:

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


haha, I wanted to tell you to knock it off too Birb but I suspected saying as much would only make it worse

curiousCat
Sep 23, 2012

Does this look like the face of mercy, kupo?

Birdstrike posted:

curiousCat,

Nine years ago, you acted as accomplice to the attack on Sa. You then provided support to Gehn. Conspiring with Schelene, you damaged Yoshi's Island in secret. Your "research materials" caused the cave in at the Library. Which in turn caused the Everdunes War, letting DeadBeatDad off his chains. We lost a lot of good men. You also stand accused of pretending to murder one of your own family, getting them to play dead.

I didn't die first here this is already a success for me

Lumpen
Apr 2, 2004

I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.
Plaster Town Cop

Bifauxnen posted:

yeah you got it lumpface

You, Lumpen are scum #1
Cause all you did yesterday was make the exact same cases as me - Pod and Gulag, and your case on Pod was much shorter while your case on Gulag was loving identical to mine: pulling the same scumclaim poo poo he did in FF4, and Pod But somehow, somehow, mine are just worded less "sincerely" so my efforts don't count while yours do. You're trying to craft something from nothing so all you got is projecting.

Next up is Stickup for similarly crafting a total poo poo case - he's played with me enough to know I do the town cheerleader and admin stuff as both scum and town no matter what, and that I'm pushy as all hell. Combine that with the shady poo poo about acting like he might have data on me, but it's easily played off as a joke if pressed. People may also wish to note, MT was playing around with casting some tentative votes on me yesterday, while joking around with Stickup. Testing the waters perhaps. I am known as easily riled.

Next up is Pod for similar poo poo yesterday, but he's down the list a bit now.

Next up is Gulag - I'm less inclined to think he's scum now just cause you were pushing him and I think you're scummy as all hell. But I still really don't like him loving around with this claiming human poo poo, and hope he doesn't coast on it till endgame again.

Quidthulhu hasn't posted much but might be buttering me up. Probably just town but he'd be next for me to look at.

Kashuno is total unknown as Max didn't post much before tagging out.
Cat is similar

Moatillata is always hard to tell, seems to just be chilling out as usual but I have no reason to see him as scummy yet

Birb is my bud and he seems to be just having fun instead of pushing any serious agenda, hoping he's town

Inf sounds like clueless town as usual.

FL sounds townie in trying to suss things out.

Mr. F is confirmed now I believe.

I appreciate this, Bif. If I were to give you the benefit of the doubt, would you join me in voting Podima or Gulag today? If you follow your own List and put your vote on either of them, I will join it and keep it there as long as you do, and if you defect it'll be back on you.

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


Lumpen posted:

I appreciate this, Bif. If I were to give you the benefit of the doubt, would you join me in voting Podima or Gulag today? If you follow your own List and put your vote on either of them, I will join it and keep it there as long as you do, and if you defect it'll be back on you.

not Stickup, huh?

I'd like to see what new things Podima has to say first today before I let him jump the queue.

Lumpen
Apr 2, 2004

I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.
Plaster Town Cop

Bifauxnen posted:

not Stickup, huh?

I'd like to see what new things Podima has to say first today before I let him jump the queue.
No, not Stickup. I think Stickup is likely Town. I didn't think you'd actually bus Podima or Gulag. Your criticism of both of them has seemed weak and insincere, like Scumbuddy distancing, all game. You made a List, but you won't vote it? Do you think the Scumteam is solely MMT, me, Stickup?

I just read Stickup and he did Honor MMT. And he definitely softclaimed a Watch or Track on you, which if he comes back and says "nope just a totally wacky meaningless jokeroony" it will reflect badly on him.

Podima
Nov 4, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Feeling somewhat better about Bif. She pointed out she's lynchable - and has claimed an action. I'd still vote her way, but not my first choice.

~~~

Lumpen posted:

Looks like scum gonna get rolled hard this game.

Most times someone posts this, they're angry scum getting rolled.

Lumpen has been opportunistic today, and pushing others for cases - rather than making his own. He's selling a meta case - on Gulag of all people. Some points on Bif's stuff - I do agree with but ... it's flimsy overall from him. He's pushing a narrative here, trying to narrow votes already.

~~~

If Stickup has results today, he should confirm for sure - but not claim a role. The way he phrased it - seemed cut and dry there, so weird that he's ghosting.

Podima
Nov 4, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Lumpen posted:

Yeah, I'm calling Podima likely SCUM.

I calls 'em like I sees 'em.

Elaborate on this one please. Make your case on me.

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


Lumpen posted:

No, not Stickup. I think Stickup is likely Town. I didn't think you'd actually bus Podima or Gulag. Your criticism of both of them has seemed weak and insincere, like Scumbuddy distancing, all game. You made a List, but you won't vote it? Do you think the Scumteam is solely MMT, me, Stickup?

I just read Stickup and he did Honor MMT. And he definitely softclaimed a Watch or Track on you, which if he comes back and says "nope just a totally wacky meaningless jokeroony" it will reflect badly on him.

I've mentioned before that I'm waiting to vote till later after people have cast their honor votes. But keep trying to steer me, ok.

3 scum sounds about right. Having it be MMT then both you and Stickup pushing the same case seems a bit too neat, but you and Stickup are each individually high on my list. 3rd could be someone else. Like Pod or Gulag. Or maybe someone in the question mark zone that I haven't had any reason to even look at yet.

Podima
Nov 4, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Behold a terrible post history: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3820136&userid=60088

Inf needs to post more - and make some cases today. This feels like scum coasting. Only vote was an OMGUS.

Lumpen
Apr 2, 2004

I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.
Plaster Town Cop

Bifauxnen posted:

I've mentioned before that I'm waiting to vote till later after people have cast their honor votes. But keep trying to steer me, ok.

3 scum sounds about right. Having it be MMT then both you and Stickup pushing the same case seems a bit too neat, but you and Stickup are each individually high on my list. 3rd could be someone else. Like Pod or Gulag. Or maybe someone in the question mark zone that I haven't had any reason to even look at yet.

No, in a 15 player game there's likely 4 Scum or 3 Scum and an anti-Town 3P I guess. We have no indication there's an SK. With a Town Vig, that'd suggest a 4th Scum. peramene is a hard mod to anticipate, she might make an unbalanced setup, but I doubt there's just 3 Scum vs 12 Town including a Townie with a dayVig.

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


Lumpen posted:

No, in a 15 player game there's likely 4 Scum or 3 Scum and an anti-Town 3P I guess. We have no indication there's an SK. With a Town Vig, that'd suggest a 4th Scum. peramene is a hard mod to anticipate, she might make an unbalanced setup, but I doubt there's just 3 Scum vs 12 Town including a Townie with a dayVig.

hm good point I keep thinking low ratios are better cause we gotta lean hard for town in Auspol games

Podima
Nov 4, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Quidthulhu posted:

OK, I ACTUALLY have time to pay attention to this now with summer around the corner. Put me in, I'll read the OP more carefully tonight and do whatever it is I need to do.

(above mostly included for irony.)

Quidthulhu posted:

hi i got a role PM what is happening, i didn't realize this was a mafia game i thought we were RPing again lololol

i can't do nothin right

Quidthulhu posted:

what's happening, guys, goodmorning

Quidthulhu posted:

I built a computer and I am very tired. Someone fill me in on what's going on.

Quidthulhu posted:

what did mmt do, show me

do the work for me

go, minions, go~

Quid does this as scum. Where is effortposting scumhunting Quid?

Also of note on this:

Murmur Twin posted:

(in all seriousness I miss effortpost-y Quid and hope he makes a comeback :ohdear:)

Certainly not a slam dunk, but raises an eyebrow there.

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


ok time for lunch and to start thinking up the next recap.

Who remembers good times with Captain Daniels?

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay
ugh

so much casing, voting, lynching, killing - did you learn nothing from Mechanical? It is said that the people will fight... and through battle, they will know the fullness of life.

But that is wrong

Podima
Nov 4, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Birdstrike posted:

ugh

so much casing, voting, lynching, killing - did you learn nothing from Mechanical? It is said that the people will fight... and through battle, they will know the fullness of life.

But that is wrong

If peramene actually gave you... a dickish 'win together' wincon, where we all no lynch, that's actually incredible and hilarious.

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birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay

Podima posted:

If peramene actually gave you... a dickish 'win together' wincon, where we all no lynch, that's actually incredible and hilarious.

Now that you mention it, there are some clear parallels between Atrus and myself.

Like Atrus, I have been away from my boys while they've grown up.

Moat: send me to Family Court

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