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precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Normal Adult Human posted:

Neil Gaiman is such an exceptional Urban Fantasy author that he has actually broken the barrier and become a lovely fiction writer.

lmao

And also, true.

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Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty

Your Gay Uncle posted:

Watching this show I can't help but be sad that Hannibal was on network TV. Think of all the weiner filled murder monuments we missed out on.

Not empty quoting.

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

Spoiler images of Laura from episode 04


a kitten fucked around with this message at 05:45 on May 19, 2017

Dr. Clockwork
Sep 9, 2011

I'LL PUT MY SCIENCE IN ALL OF YOU!
Considering the line in episode 1 about how Laura's sister told the coroner to leave Dane Cook's dick in her dead mouth, could this flashback meet our dick quota for episode 4?

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006
Not unless someone managed to put it back in between the open casket funeral and the burial.

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

Oh hi Ibis and Jaquel.

Audrey and Laura's scenes were incredible.

right to bear karma
Feb 20, 2001

There's a Dr. Fist here to see you.
If I had known the subject of this week's episode, I would have said I didn't care about it. So of course I wound up finding it the most engrossing ep so far. Also nice to get some more time with Ibis and Jaquel.

big dyke energy
Jul 29, 2006

Football? Yaaaay
Goddamn it's so frustrating that this episode ends exactly where the last one ends, I want poo poo to progress already! But at the same time, I really appreciated this episode. The expansion of Laura's character is SO good, I love that she's gone from Shadow's dead wife, who he loved and who is totally devoted to him in her undeath to Shadow's dead wife, who loved her more than she loved him, who is the reason he's in prison, who is just a super hosed up person. There's just a whole lot more going on and it's loving good.

I'm so happy for Audrey's reappearance, she's surprisingly become one of my favorites just because she's the only regular-rear end person in the series so far. I love her. She was such a nothing in the book, it's such a surprise I give a poo poo but that's adaptations.

And Ibis is just like I pictured :allears:.

DentD
Aug 13, 2015

I can predict the future! And you're going to be OKAY.
Once again I feel like I need to re-read the book. Because I swear that Laura had been kind of an awful person there too. She was the reason Shadow went to prison.

Maybe I'm imagining all of that.

Was anyone else skeeved out by Shadow confronting Laura in the parking lot at the beginning? I didn't feel any sexual chemistry between them. I felt like this woman wanted nothing to do with him and wanted to leave but had no options with him leaning over her.

Glad to see Audrey returned. It'll be interesting to see if she shows up in Lakeside still and how that will work. And wow Dane Cook was the perfect douchebag to cast as Robbie.

DentD fucked around with this message at 19:14 on May 21, 2017

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



i think the scene (and all the home scenes, being replaced by an electronic shuffler) is meant to show how empty Laura is and she's like, oh a hot dude wanna gently caress? why not. the rest of the show hits you very unsubtly how she feels like a complete nothing person

also everything between audrey and laura was amazing. Certainly didn't expect how great it was going to be.

The Saddest Rhino fucked around with this message at 00:46 on May 22, 2017

double nine
Aug 8, 2013

Audrey is knocking it out of the park.

Max
Nov 30, 2002

This episode moved nothing forward but was also the best one so far in terms of character moments.

hangedman1984
Jul 25, 2012

I feel sooo bad for Audrey. I mean she finds out her best friend and husband have been loving, are dead, and then said friend comes back as a zombie and asks to borrow her car.



E:added spoiler tags

hangedman1984 fucked around with this message at 20:17 on May 21, 2017

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
For rules' sake, let's stick to the usual rule of using spoiler tags until it airs on tv in the Eastern US time zone (9pm eastern/6pm pacific). I'm not sure if we know an exact time when it gets posted on Amazon but we know the exact time it gets aired on broadcast; that lets people know an exact time to avoid this thread for spoilers

DentD
Aug 13, 2015

I can predict the future! And you're going to be OKAY.
Sure, sorry for the lapse in judgement. Fixed mine above.

double nine
Aug 8, 2013

hangedman1984 posted:

I feel sooo bad for Audrey. I mean she finds out her best friend and husband have been loving, are dead, and then said friend comes back as a zombie and asks to borrow her car.



E:added spoiler tags

agreed. The actor just sells it so well.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

The Saddest Rhino posted:

i think the scene (and all the home scenes, being replaced by an electronic shuffler) is meant to show how empty Laura is and she's like, oh a hot dude wanna gently caress? why not. the rest of the show hits you very unsubtly how she feels like a complete nothing person

also everything between audrey and laura was amazing. Certainly didn't expect how great it was going to be.


Added some spoiler tags to quote. I think you really nailed it. Laura is an extremely depressed person, with nothing really driving her in life. She loved Shadow, but not as much as he loves her. She just was empty and KNEW there was nothing after death so she's just killing time until it happens.

With her resurrection, she knows that there IS something after death, and Shadow is literally her reason for living.


And I'll spoil this even though it's not really an episode spoiler where is the coin? Assuming they follow the book, it's pretty important to her, and I didn't see any pockets in her burial dress.

Collateral
Feb 17, 2010
Fairly heavy foreshadowing of the sun god there.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.
Episode felt kinda slow, being a pre-quel just setting up Laura and Shadow's relationship and we already know how its going to end, just watching her and Dane Cook sloooowly work towards the inevitable conclusion. (loving Dane Cook omg)

But Ibis and Jaqel showing up at the end saved it, as did Audrey.

nessin
Feb 7, 2010

DentD posted:

Once again I feel like I need to re-read the book. Because I swear that Laura had been kind of an awful person there too. She was the reason Shadow went to prison.

Maybe I'm imagining all of that.

Was anyone else skeeved out by Shadow confronting Laura in the parking lot at the beginning? I didn't feel any sexual chemistry between them. I felt like this woman wanted nothing to do with him and wanted to leave but had no options with him leaning over her.

Glad to see Audrey returned. It'll be interesting to see if she shows up in Lakeside still and how that will work. And wow Dane Cook was the perfect douchebag to cast as Robbie.


In the book Laura doesn't have much of a backstory. She admits to cheating on Shadow because Shadow felt like he was never really "alive" and Robbie did along with the standard shoulder to cry on moment. Other than that and a few snippets about how being dead makes it harder to attach the same feelings to past events, which mostly revolved around discussing the relationship with Robbie. That's about it in the book. Also in the book Shadow agreed to do a bank robbery for Laura and she wasn't directly involved.

Edit:
Also in the books there is no meeting between Laura and Audrey, basically this entire episode doesn't exist except for the relationship with Robbie.

The imagery of Laura's Shadow-radar was pretty awesome though.

nessin fucked around with this message at 03:17 on May 22, 2017

Relentlessboredomm
Oct 15, 2006

It's Sic Semper Tyrannis. You said, "Ever faithful terrible lizard."
That was the best episode of the season and completely divergent from the book. loving loved it and died laughing at everything with the arm and the toilet.

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

I can't get over that whole scene in Audrey's house, and the bathroom in particular. Just fantastic.

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



honestly i'm p stoked that both Shadow and Laura have way more personality than their counterparts in the book

nessin
Feb 7, 2010
Just finished my reading (listening) to the audiobook that I started after the first episode but then got diverted on. I know it's going to be a long ways out but I think the two scenes I'm going to be most looking forward to seeing how they play them out on the big screen will be the final scene(s) of the main plot, specifically the encounter between Loki and Laura, and Laura and Shadow, then the end of the book with Czernobog and his coming transformation. After this episode I bet they could do some fun stuff with the later but since it's after the resolution of the story I doubt they'd spend a lot of time with it assuming they even show it at all.

Edit:
I was really skeptical they'd be able to get multiple seasons out of the book, but seeing how they're breaking it up and filling in backstory so far there is a poo poo ton of room expansion. If this seasons ends at the House, even with the occasional dip past it, then the entire next season could just be Cairo and part of Lakeside, another season for finishing up Lakeside up to the center of the US, another season devoted to just diverging from the book to flesh out the characters for the battle, and a final season for the vigil and story finisher.

nessin fucked around with this message at 06:05 on May 22, 2017

Hughlander
May 11, 2005

hangedman1984 posted:

I feel sooo bad for Audrey. I mean she finds out her best friend and husband have been loving, are dead, and then said friend comes back as a zombie and asks to borrow her car.

You mean came back as a zombie whore.

Shooting Blanks
Jun 6, 2007

Real bullets mess up how cool this thing looks.

-Blade



The scenes with Audrey were stellar. The combination of "I should hate this person but...she also used to be my best friend and there was clearly no malice. And she's dead. WTF" was done perfectly. Also glad to see Ibis and Jacquel.

DentD posted:

Once again I feel like I need to re-read the book. Because I swear that Laura had been kind of an awful person there too. She was the reason Shadow went to prison.

Maybe I'm imagining all of that.

IIRC, she was involved in the plan in the book, but not the reason he went to prison. I think that the actual reason for his sentence wasn't the robbery, but that he beat the poo poo out of a couple guys who were also involved after they tried to hold out on him. It was just assault - nobody fessed up to why he beat them.

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010

Anubis owns. Laura is a lovely person. It's interesting how the show makes her seem emptier than Shadow given her comments in the book.

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006


cptn_dr
Sep 7, 2011

Seven for beauty that blossoms and dies


Mr Ibis! :swoon: also Mr Jacquel's fancy feet were great.

cptn_dr fucked around with this message at 10:03 on May 22, 2017

Vorgen
Mar 5, 2006

Party Membership is a Democracy, The Weave is Not.

A fledgling vampire? How about a dragon, or some half-kobold druids? Perhaps a spontaneous sex change? Anything that can happen, will happen the results will be beyond entertaining.

This episode has brought to light what to me seems to be a new level of existential horror. If you don't believe in the afterlife, and constantly contemplate suicide in life, then when you do die and there is an afterlife, the god of the dead will force you to commit suicide AGAIN? And then after your second spiritual suicide there will be only darkness?!?!?

WTF!!!!

Max
Nov 30, 2002

We very likely won't get to it this season but Shadows death is going to be glorious in Fullers's version of the scene, and I cannot wait.

BrianWilly
Apr 24, 2007

There is no homosexual terrorist Johnny Silverhand
I'm a little confused why Anubis appeared to Laura, frankly? If he had said "the circumstances of your life commit me" then that would make its own kind of sick, cruel sense because she spent her life working in a mockery of an Egyptian holy place and therefore gets forced into an Egyptian afterlife. But he specifically said "The circumstances of your death commit me" and it's like...what? Why? Does Anubis hold dominion over all who die while sucking dick? That's something I hadn't read before.

Vorgen
Mar 5, 2006

Party Membership is a Democracy, The Weave is Not.

A fledgling vampire? How about a dragon, or some half-kobold druids? Perhaps a spontaneous sex change? Anything that can happen, will happen the results will be beyond entertaining.

Anubis holds dominion over all disloyal hoes.

Max
Nov 30, 2002

I wonder if it's because Odin was responsible for her death.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Max posted:

We very likely won't get to it this season but Shadows death is going to be glorious in Fullers's version of the scene, and I cannot wait.

We know season 1 ends at House on the Rock so yeah, nowhere near Shadow's death :)

BrianWilly posted:

I'm a little confused why Anubis appeared to Laura, frankly? If he had said "the circumstances of your life commit me" then that would make its own kind of sick, cruel sense because she spent her life working in a mockery of an Egyptian holy place and therefore gets forced into an Egyptian afterlife. But he specifically said "The circumstances of your death commit me" and it's like...what? Why? Does Anubis hold dominion over all who die while sucking dick? That's something I hadn't read before.

Lol

Yeah it is a bit awkward. They could explain it by saying Laura had heard of him once upon a time or something, but it did seem a little funny. But hey, Jaquel and Ibis are amazing so whatever.

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






The Casino she works at is Egyptian themed, and I'm pretty sure that least one of the cards that she deals has Anubis' name on it. She may not have been a believer but Egyptian mythology and symbolism was part of her everyday life. The opening scene even plays music reminiscent of the scenes in the afterlife. So yeah, thats probably why Anubis appeared to her, despite her atheism.

Toast Museum
Dec 3, 2005

30% Iron Chef

Max posted:

I wonder if it's because Odin was responsible for her death.

Yeah, I had the same thought. I'm not sure why that would really matter, though. It's not like Wednesday expected her to come back or needed her to have any particular sort of afterlife, so I don't know what favor Wednesday would have been calling in by getting Anubis involved.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

Max posted:

I wonder if it's because Odin was responsible for her death.

They're doing a good job of foreshadowing Odin. I loved the background shots of Huginn and Muninn flying around her house and behind the car before the accident.

DentD
Aug 13, 2015

I can predict the future! And you're going to be OKAY.

Vorgen posted:

This episode has brought to light what to me seems to be a new level of existential horror. If you don't believe in the afterlife, and constantly contemplate suicide in life, then when you do die and there is an afterlife, the god of the dead will force you to commit suicide AGAIN? And then after your second spiritual suicide there will be only darkness?!?!?

I think this is because Laura refused to have her heart weighed and deliberately failed the test by weighing the scale down. She could have submitted to the test. In the book Jacquel tells Shadow they made the feather really heavy. Maybe Laura would have been fine in that case.

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Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
Isn't she also reading a book about egyptian mythology during the opening montage? If she's an atheist who is surrounded by egyptian kitsch and knows a bit of the mythology Anubis makes as much sense as anyone.

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