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GaussianCopula posted:Journalists doing journalist things and tracking down sources seems like nothing to complain about. Ah yes that all too reliable source of facts, "a family member of a bombing victim who wasn't even there at the time"
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May 23, 2017 11:57
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ITV Granada are running a live feed on Facebook of the Arndale Centre, with a rolling comment feed of course. Jesus loving Christ.
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May 23, 2017 11:57
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Oberleutnant posted:The funniest thing I can tell you is that Rhodes spent most of the 2nd Boer War besieged in Kimberley, throwing a constant fit about it. There are a bunch of telegrams to the Brit government whining about how if they don't send an army to relieve him personally and immediately he and his company (ie de Beers) are going to unilaterally open negotiations with the Boers. Wonderful. What a cock.
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May 23, 2017 11:57
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GaussianCopula posted:Journalists doing journalist things and tracking down sources seems like nothing to complain about. gently caress off Nazi, of course you can't understand basic human decency. Though we all knew that already after your response to the refugees dying in the Med.
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May 23, 2017 11:59
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Oberleutnant posted:the entirety of the British isles was emptied of troops as every available soldier was sent to South Africa
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May 23, 2017 12:02
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From the "Too Soon" department: https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/866919401467125760
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May 23, 2017 12:04
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The second Boer war and the Jameson raid pretty much ruined Rhodes reputation in Britain, he wasn't best liked by the time of his death
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May 23, 2017 12:04
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Tesseraction posted:From the "Too Soon" department: "Your suffering is worth more than Stockholm but less than Paris" Jesus loving christ what a bunch of assholes.
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May 23, 2017 12:06
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Oberleutnant posted:And all because Cecil Rhodes threw a paddy about being stuck in Kimberley. please, no. Interesting as hell posting otherwise, though
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May 23, 2017 12:10
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josh04 posted:The "brand" is different in that one "brand" now has elected MPs in parliament. The comparison only remotely holds because our press are willing to jeopardise peace in northern island by rewriting history to make Corbyn, who is a borderline pacifist, look worse. Sinn Féin had MPs before the Good Friday agreement (though obviously they never take their seats) funny how those talking about rewriting of history have such a poor understanding of it. I'd have more respect for Corbyn if he was at least honest about his historic support for the IRA. Still he's done the same thing about EU membership since he became leader so at least he's consistent in telling people what he thinks they want to hear.
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May 23, 2017 12:13
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PezlFNTGWv4 I know we've all seen it before but it's no less relevant.
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May 23, 2017 12:15
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AP posted:Sinn Féin had MPs before the Good Friday agreement (though obviously they never take their seats) funny how those talking about rewriting of history have such a poor understanding of it. I'd have more respect for Corbyn if he was at least honest about his historic support for the IRA. Still he's done the same thing about EU membership since he became leader so at least he's consistent in telling people what he thinks they want to hear. I mean, great? The point is that sympathy for republicanism is in no way even remotely similar to sympathy for ISIS as a position for a UK politician to take.
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May 23, 2017 12:16
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Miftan posted:"Your suffering is worth more than Stockholm but less than Paris" Context is a good thing, especially with the terrisms
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May 23, 2017 12:18
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WeAreTheRomans posted:please, no.
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May 23, 2017 12:21
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josh04 posted:I mean, great? The point is that sympathy for republicanism is in no way even remotely similar to sympathy for ISIS as a position for a UK politician to take. No the point was in the original post you quoted "It's a bit late to be complaining all that doesn't look that great to the electorate".
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May 23, 2017 12:21
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Tesseraction posted:From the "Too Soon" department: Missing a pretty major terrorist attack this
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May 23, 2017 12:23
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Oberleutnant posted:Eh? I was using it in the sense of tantrum, squinny, wobbly. I'm assuming that word is only incidentally or accidentally the same as the other use of that word. Apparently its likely etymology is from a suggestion of an Irishman's disposition to getting upset easily. See definition 2: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/paddy
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May 23, 2017 12:29
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AP posted:No the point was in the original post you quoted "It's a bit late to be complaining all that doesn't look that great to the electorate". Who is "complaining all that doesn't look that great to the electorate"? The issue is gonna be May & UKIP taking a hard right turn in the wake of this in a naked attempt to politicise people's fear.
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May 23, 2017 12:30
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Jose posted:Missing a pretty major terrorist attack this Which one ? I don't like confusing my islamisms
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May 23, 2017 12:31
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Tesseraction posted:Apparently its likely etymology is from a suggestion of an Irishman's disposition to getting upset easily. Yikes! Seriously I apologies for my thoughtlessness, and for any offence I caused anybody. It wasn't intentional.
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May 23, 2017 12:31
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Jose posted:Missing a pretty major terrorist attack this 'White right-wing killers aren't terrorists' is maybe the third rule of reporting major violent incidents.
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May 23, 2017 12:32
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MikeCrotch posted:Who is "complaining all that doesn't look that great to the electorate"? The issue is gonna be May & UKIP taking a hard right turn in the wake of this in a naked attempt to politicise people's fear. If you click quoted posts it takes you back to the post in question, it's easier to follow what was said that way.
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May 23, 2017 12:34
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Jose posted:Missing a pretty major terrorist attack this Jo Cox? Or that Norwegian fucker?
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May 23, 2017 12:35
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Oberleutnant posted:Jo Cox? Or that Norwegian fucker? Yeah, I assumed Breivik. Who would be the second-largest on that map.
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May 23, 2017 12:36
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Oberleutnant posted:Yikes! That's cool man. Usually when I push back against anti-Irish racism ITT people like pissflaps go off on tangents about the Empire, so it's nice to see a reasonable response! It's one of those ones like "gypped" that not everyone automatically associates with racism, but we're all learning all the time
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May 23, 2017 12:38
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:Yeah, I assumed Breivik. Who would be the second-largest on that map. It only covers attacks since 2015.
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May 23, 2017 12:41
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GaussianCopula posted:It only covers attacks since 2015. Then why doesn't it show when your colleague shot our MP in the street?
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May 23, 2017 12:43
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Whites can't be terrorists, they're just mentally ill
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May 23, 2017 12:45
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WeAreTheRomans posted:That's cool man. Usually when I push back against anti-Irish racism ITT people like pissflaps go off on tangents about the Empire, so it's nice to see a reasonable response! It's one of those ones like "gypped" that not everyone automatically associates with racism, but we're all learning all the time This is a lie. You're a liar. We have never discussed anything of the sort.
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May 23, 2017 12:47
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Well, guess who has owned up to last night. It wasn't GCHQ, either.
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May 23, 2017 12:48
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According to Reuters, Islamic State has claimed responsibility for the attack.
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May 23, 2017 12:51
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Pochoclo posted:Whites can't be terrorists, they're just mentally ill This is the UK we're talking about. Ireland is positively brimming with terrorists depending on which Brit you ask. I just woke up and learned of this. My sympathy goes out to all the victims. I don't follow UK politics that closely but this occurring just as I've been reading all the talk about the upcoming election is...disquieting.
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May 23, 2017 12:51
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Pochoclo posted:Whites can't be terrorists, they're just mentally ill This doesn't work in the U.K. The country is extremely used to the idea of terrorists with white faces.
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May 23, 2017 12:52
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Arndale Centre arrestee: Ed: *allegedly*
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May 23, 2017 12:52
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Pissflaps posted:This is a lie. You're a liar. We have never discussed anything of the sort. ok
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May 23, 2017 12:52
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May 23, 2017 12:53
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May 23, 2017 12:54
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I get that this is a massive story that people want to hear about, and I don't want to sound callous or dismissive or anything of the sort. But to briefly return to the earlier discussion about the media's relationship to these attacks: This:  doesn't seem healthy somehow.
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It's not just 'the media' though - people want to read that stuff that's why it's the most read.
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