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Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
The only part of Sigma that confused me is when the Laevatein is first introduced, it looks like the villains have captured it when it is first revealed before it even gets to Sousuke, but then later Wraith delivers it to Sousuke anyway. I feel like I reread those handful of chapters like 3 times because the timeline of why that happened made no sense to me.

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Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things
Sigma also has some weird pacing issues, especially towards the end.

I really appreciate that they do a nice long comedy flashback arc right when things are getting super hosed up though. Especially since We had just had the third loving 'Chidori is about to be saved, whoops nevermind' sequence. I mean it was the best and most plot relevant one, and paid off well, but goddamn.

Also Weber really should have stayed dead. It really undercut a lot of the themes about accepting it and moving on, especially since we let Al and Sousuke get a happy ending.


Also there are far too many people who get shot right in the head, on screen, in that series who turn out okay. I feel like someone should have veto'd/revoked that story beat because it happens like five times.

Zore fucked around with this message at 22:25 on May 10, 2017

Raxivace
Sep 9, 2014

I finished Macross 7 today. I know people say its a little too long as is, but dammit I found myself still wanting a little more even after finishing the dope OVA about the whales. :(

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



Raxivace posted:

I finished Macross 7 today. I know people say its a little too long as is, but dammit I found myself still wanting a little more even after finishing the dope OVA about the whales. :(

I've never heard that.

Mostly, discussions I've heard have used phrases like "much too long" or "Incredibly bloated."

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
Macross 7 goes on way too long, but all that time you spend with the characters ends up making you really like them and care about them. I love the Macross 7 OVAs because they give you more time with those characters but without making you sit through Planet Dance or "Anima Spiritia! eeeeeeeeeeeee" again.

Macross 7 is kinda like the opposite of Macross Delta

Kanos
Sep 6, 2006

was there a time when speedwagon didn't get trolled

Guy Goodbody posted:

Macross 7 goes on way too long, but all that time you spend with the characters ends up making you really like them and care about them. I love the Macross 7 OVAs because they give you more time with those characters but without making you sit through Planet Dance or "Anima Spiritia! eeeeeeeeeeeee" again.

Macross 7 is kinda like the opposite of Macross Delta

Macross Delta was also far too long for the story material they had, though unlike Macross 7 it also failed to make me give a poo poo about any of the characters. Hayate is possibly the most unlikeable lead in the franchise.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
For all its issues, Macross 7 actually has a very solid endgame set of episodes. Delta hits a high around halfway and then gradually peters out the rest of the way. And yeah I was never a Basara fan but Hayate makes me appreciate him as a MC so much more. God that show was a bummer.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~
Delta has a really strong first episode. Maybe the best in the franchise, though I'm a big fan of SDFs as well. The next few episodes are pretty great too, but by episode 6 I think the show had started to flag and while it revived briefly around the midway point, even those episodes were cool but had problems. I still can't fathom why the show had Hayate successfully shoot down Keith only 2 episodes after Messer died. The character hadn't done anything to earn it by that point, nor had the show done anything dramatic to capitalize on the event. It's just a really weird resolution, that doesn't actually resolve anything for anyone involved. The fact he shot him down because of a magic boost just seemed really limp and stood out even when the episode aired. The next few episodes were mostly kind of dull, and by episode 20 I'd completely lost interest in the show despite loving the first episode so much. I still haven't finished it, and doubt I ever will.

The premise of tactical idols, break-dancing VFs and combat singing was just so well executed in the first episode and the show really did nothing to capitalize on any of it. The idols barely interact with a battlefield after the first episode, the drones disappear after a few episodes, Hayate does the Immelman dance maybe twice more in the following episodes and then just forgets about it and so on. It really feels like someone higher up saw the episodes negative comments online and in trying to appease the people with a negative perception ditched everything that had garnered the idea positive reception and ended up pleasing no-one.

Mimir
Nov 26, 2012
Does anyone have a screenshot of someone saying, like, "Doctor Hell is a respected scientist" or something? I remember seeing something along those lines and I found it hilarious.

Schwarzwald
Jul 27, 2004

Don't Blink

Mimir posted:

Does anyone have a screenshot of someone saying, like, "Doctor Hell is a respected scientist" or something? I remember seeing something along those lines and I found it hilarious.

I don't have that, but I do have this.

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Motto
Aug 3, 2013

Man that version of kouji's grandpa is boring.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
Fumoffu doesn't end, it just stops

Mister Olympus
Oct 31, 2011

Buzzard, Who Steals From Dead Bodies

Schwarzwald posted:

I don't have that, but I do have this.





This is maybe closer, but I'm not sure they're looking for crabsticks. Is it a cap from Shin Mazinger?

Or maybe it doesn't exist. Just like eggbeaters.

Mimir
Nov 26, 2012

Mister Olympus posted:



This is maybe closer, but I'm not sure they're looking for crabsticks. Is it a cap from Shin Mazinger?

Or maybe it doesn't exist. Just like eggbeaters.

I think the first one was what I was thinking of - at least the picture, maybe someone had a caption or something. I just love the idea of Professor Demento Psychosis being a nice, friendly guy when you get to know him.

Schwarzwald
Jul 27, 2004

Don't Blink

Mimir posted:

I think the first one was what I was thinking of - at least the picture, maybe someone had a caption or something. I just love the idea of Professor Demento Psychosis being a nice, friendly guy when you get to know him.

Dr. Hell, and his grotesque little family of servile ghouls, are absolutely incredible. He's such an astonishingly broken individual.

Each of the 70's super robot shows have their own set of cackling villains, but none match Dr. Hell in simultaneously being monstrous and completely pitiful.

Schwarzwald
Jul 27, 2004

Don't Blink
Sorry for the double post, but the first chapter of recent manga Mazinger Z: Alter Ignition is basically nothing but panels of respected scientist Dr. Hell.

Here's a handful:

Blaze Dragon
Aug 28, 2013
LOWTAX'S SPINE FUND

Huh, there's a new Mazinger manga? What's it about? Is it about Dr. Hell, here looking like a regular person and not like someone who is blatantly the villain of the show?

Schwarzwald
Jul 27, 2004

Don't Blink

Blaze Dragon posted:

Huh, there's a new Mazinger manga? What's it about? Is it about Dr. Hell, here looking like a regular person and not like someone who is blatantly the villain of the show?

I've been told that it will primarily be about Kouji Kabuto readjusting to life without constant conflict, having defeated all his enemies.

Here are the raws for the first chapter: http://mazin-go.com/mz-oltign/%e3%8...ac%ac%ef%bc%91/

GorfZaplen
Jan 20, 2012

Schwarzwald posted:

I've been told that it will primarily be about Kouji Kabuto readjusting to life without constant conflict, having defeated all his enemies.

Sounds like the sort of riveting story we've come to expect from Dynamic Pro

dis astranagant
Dec 14, 2006

Blaze Dragon posted:

Huh, there's a new Mazinger manga? What's it about? Is it about Dr. Hell, here looking like a regular person and not like someone who is blatantly the villain of the show?

There's 2 of them, actually. The one pictured is a retelling of the original story changed up a bit and the other is one Shwartzwald's talking about. Interval Peace is written by the screenwriter for the new Mazinger Z movie due out eventually.

The Muffinlord
Mar 3, 2007

newbid stupie?
I just finished Majestic Prince last night and I really enjoyed it, but I could seriously do without the whole "guess the genitals" plot for Ange. I'm glad it didn't last long, but I'd really hope that by 2110 the students of an elite military school could have some goddamn decorum.

I'm just sort of making my way through Crunchyroll's "mecha" category right now. I feel like they haven't updated the genre listings in years, though; there's like thirty shows in it and I know for a fact that like half their Gundam series aren't on the list.

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

There's also episode 25 (which is mostly introductions for super minor movie characters) and the movie; dunno if either are on CR.

The Muffinlord
Mar 3, 2007

newbid stupie?
25 was, but the movie wasn't. Is there anywhere I can stream it legally?

Droyer
Oct 9, 2012

Last I checked there was only a fansub so probably not.

EthanSteele
Nov 18, 2007

I can hear you

The Muffinlord posted:

I just finished Majestic Prince last night and I really enjoyed it, but I could seriously do without the whole "guess the genitals" plot for Ange. I'm glad it didn't last long, but I'd really hope that by 2110 the students of an elite military school could have some goddamn decorum.

I'm just sort of making my way through Crunchyroll's "mecha" category right now. I feel like they haven't updated the genre listings in years, though; there's like thirty shows in it and I know for a fact that like half their Gundam series aren't on the list.

They definitely haven't updated their listing, there's loads of stuff that they have that isn't under the Mecha tag, last I checked Godmars wasn't, but that was just after they got it.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

It's a pain to find old stuff in general on Crunchy, you basically have to hear about it from other sources if it's a show that's not very popular and predates simulcasts.

dogsicle
Oct 23, 2012

If you want to find something your best bet is to just go to the page that shows all of their current catalog in an alphabetical list.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~

The Muffinlord posted:

I just finished Majestic Prince last night and I really enjoyed it, but I could seriously do without the whole "guess the genitals" plot for Ange. I'm glad it didn't last long, but I'd really hope that by 2110 the students of an elite military school could have some goddamn decorum.

Kids and teens, no matter how prestigious their surroundings aren't known for their decorum in general. I thought their curiosity about Ange was both understandable and relatively well handled. The guys were curious, tried to find out a few times through dumbass plans like seeing how Ange reacted to porn and then dropped it as unimportant. I would still prefer Ange's androgyny not have been a thing personally, but I don't have a problem with the way the show handled it given that it was. I think Majestic Prince had a knack for handling things in a quiet and unassuming but impressive way. The best example to me being the cold open of the coffin of the Team Doberhound guy. No crying, no recriminations or guilt, no real sound at all - just a minute or two of some people looking at his coffin and silently grieving the loss of their teammate. It showed a maturity of direction and trust in the audience's ability to grasp the character's feelings and reactions that's often missing. Majestic Prince wasn't an amazing show by any stretch, but I liked the cast and more than that liked how cliche melodrama was introduced and then just brushed off in a more grounded and straight forward manner through out the show.

The Muffinlord
Mar 3, 2007

newbid stupie?

dogsicle posted:

If you want to find something your best bet is to just go to the page that shows all of their current catalog in an alphabetical list.

This is both true and the dirt worst. I mostly watch stuff on Android TV and if you add a show to your queue it has to reload the entire alphabetical list. Weirdly, if you just back out, it's fine and you can pick up scrolling where you left off.

I was going to watch Linebarrels of Iron next but I did an episode of that and I don't think I'll be going back unless someone can convince me it gets way better. I think I'm gonna watch Gasaraki next, because being moderately confused really beats hating everything that's going on.

Blaze Dragon
Aug 28, 2013
LOWTAX'S SPINE FUND

The Muffinlord posted:

I was going to watch Linebarrels of Iron next but I did an episode of that and I don't think I'll be going back unless someone can convince me it gets way better. I think I'm gonna watch Gasaraki next, because being moderately confused really beats hating everything that's going on.

Read Linebarrels of Iron. Do not watch Linebarrels of Iron.

The manga is good, I've heard nothing but bad things about the anime.

Daler Mehndi
Apr 10, 2005

Tunak Tunak Tun!
You can check out the Linebarrels of Iron manga if the anime wasn't to your taste. At least, that's what I was told when I also very quickly dropped the anime. I found the manga more palatable but I kind of lost track after the time skip. As a side note, I was mildly annoyed when I found out that one of the genuinely nice characters in the manga was turned into a villain for the anime.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

The Muffinlord posted:

I was going to watch Linebarrels of Iron next but I did an episode of that and I don't think I'll be going back unless someone can convince me it gets way better. I think I'm gonna watch Gasaraki next, because being moderately confused really beats hating everything that's going on.

The first arc of Gasaraki is really good, if weird, but once they leave the middle east things begin to go ridiculous and not in a fun way. Stick with it only if you desperately need to finish the show.

Mimir
Nov 26, 2012

StrixNebulosa posted:

The first arc of Gasaraki is really good, if weird, but once they leave the middle east things begin to go ridiculous and not in a fun way. Stick with it only if you desperately need to finish the show.

I looked it up on wikipedia and Iove, love, love, the environmental storytelling that whoever took up writing episode descriptions gave up two-thirds of the way through.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Mimir posted:

I looked it up on wikipedia and Iove, love, love, the environmental storytelling that whoever took up writing episode descriptions gave up two-thirds of the way through.

The final conflict hinges on the rising price of grain, and magical bullshit.

I know that sounds funny, but it's somehow incredibly boring.

Mimir
Nov 26, 2012
Speaking of funny - is Dai-Guard any good?

Kanos
Sep 6, 2006

was there a time when speedwagon didn't get trolled

Mimir posted:

Speaking of funny - is Dai-Guard any good?

I really, really like it.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Mimir posted:

Speaking of funny - is Dai-Guard any good?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch8Zq10_luA

Droyer
Oct 9, 2012

Mimir posted:

Speaking of funny - is Dai-Guard any good?

Yes, very much so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuhegyYeZEU

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

I should probably watch Dai-Guard again, at the time I was used to all mecha shows trying to be the next Evangelion and was disappointed there was no weird mystery/conspiracy poo poo.

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Srice
Sep 11, 2011

Dia-guard peaks at episode 3 but heck, you could certainly watch three far worse episodes of things.

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