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Crow Jane posted:Do we know that she purposefully left the tv on, or was it just mysteriously on and turned to that cartoon when she got home? The cat was watching cartoons.
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precision posted:Media turned it on? Too obvious? Media thought that Shadow killed Techboy's goons. If she was watching Laura all that time, she'd probably be more in the know. They don't know Wednesday's plan yet. Until she gets the coin, she's off the gods' radar.
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Uh, she left the tv on because she didn't want to get robbed. Leaving it on creates the illusion that there's someone home, meaning people would be disinclined to break and enter. It's also why the lights were left on in her living room. You know, unless it was the god Apollo.
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double nine posted:people in the other thread are talking about how when Laura comes home, there's a cartoon about a dog & bird on. How is this significant? The dog I could somehow see as referring to Anubis, but I don't see how this fits into the larger story... The cartoon playing before she tries to kill herself is Woody Dines Out, a Woody Woodpecker short. The other character is a cat, not a dog. I dunno, I guess it could be Ibis and Isis. When Laura brings Shadow home with her, the cat is watching another Woody short called The Screwdriver, which is about Woody messing with a motorcycle cop. I don't know that there's a hidden message there. When she finds her cat dead, the TV is playing yet another short, Buccaneer Woodpecker, featuring Woody opposite Buzz Buzzard. This one's a pretty clear sign that I should have avoided caffeine earlier and need to sleep.
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Woman dies in penis accident. Goons: HMMM WHAT IS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF ALL THIS WOODY WOOD PECKER STUFF. Disgusting Coward fucked around with this message at 13:54 on May 25, 2017 |
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Some have suggested that Penis Biting is the One True Path to Anubis. Some have suggested it is cartoon watching. This dogmatic difference split the faith. The Shia and Sunni have been at odds ever since.
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ZorajitZorajit posted:Some have suggested that Penis Biting is the One True Path to Anubis. Some have suggested it is cartoon watching. This dogmatic difference split the faith. The Shia and Sunni have been at odds ever since. Where does the bug spray huffing fit into all of this?
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Where does the bug spray huffing fit into all of this? It allows one to commune with the gods, and certainly not indicative of someone who is clearly massively unsatisfied with life trying to commit suicide, that would be silly.
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DentD posted:Sorry, I see how my words have been hurtful. Too late. My boyfriends and I will never forgive you.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Where does the bug spray huffing fit into all of this? Sufi's.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Where does the bug spray huffing fit into all of this? Vision quest, obvs
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Where does the bug spray huffing fit into all of this? It's a real literary high. Like Kafka. It makes you feel like a bug.
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Gillie as Bowie is doing all sorts of things for me.
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Schizotek posted:Gillie as Bowie is doing all sorts of things for me. Indeed, also hello World .
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A bit confused by the tree monster at the end of the episode. The new gods have a clear association with technology of all sorts, this monster was nothing like it -organic, magical, old. But I don't get why Odin would have summoned it and didn't see anything to indicate that he did. What am I missing?
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double nine posted:A bit confused by the tree monster at the end of the episode. The new gods have a clear association with technology of all sorts, this monster was nothing like it -organic, magical, old. But I don't get why Odin would have summoned it and didn't see anything to indicate that he did. What am I missing? Tune in next week to find out?
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This episode did a lot to bring the pacing back up, but with only 3 episodes left this season it's too little too late. It's a good show and goddamn this episode was the best yet but I'm mentally prepared for it to be cancelled well before the story is told. Something I never heard before that a friend of mine pointed me to: quote:Bilquis - Queen of Sheba, as mentioned in the Bible. Also, believed to be half-jinn So that might be something. e: also I don't recall the book being nearly so heavy-handed with the clues that Mr. World is Loki precision fucked around with this message at 16:43 on May 28, 2017 |
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I mean ... if you want to doom and gloom be my guest. Plenty of Gods that feast on that negativity. Butquote:Beverly Hills, Calif. — may 11, 2017
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I'm surprised they went for the Odin reveal so early on. I thought they'd keep that a bit more mysterious for the audience for a while. I mean, even in the book it wasn't a huge mystery but I expected it to be a season finale or season two reveal.
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I believe what worries some, at least me, is that said critical and viewer acclaim is going to start bleeding off really fast if they try to go 5 or 7 or 14 seasons or whatever the current insane plan is. I could be wrong, there could be a big market for a show which drags the central conflict out beyond all reason. You can summarize the major plot beats of the actual "God War", you know the entire reason the book exists, with maybe one not very long paragraph. It really can't be understated how little really happens in the book, and how most of what does is background noise and the actual central conflict is practically a footnote and barely thought out beyond the basic premise. I mean yeah, shows like Lost and Game of Thrones coast by on characters more than their central mystery, but so far they're sticking to "the New Gods have almost no personality and are caricatures" and they're keeping the "road trip" so it's hard to imagine this turning into a show where people tune in to see whether Shadow and Laura ever make kisses again.
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precision posted:I believe what worries some, at least me, is that said critical and viewer acclaim is going to start bleeding off really fast if they try to go 5 or 7 or 14 seasons or whatever the current insane plan is. I agree - I'm loving this series for its sense of style and amazing acting, but I know where this story is going. Someone without that knowledge is going to start wondering when poo poo's going to get interesting plot-wise and might very well abandon ship. Which would be a crying shame but I can't say I'd blame them.
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double nine posted:I think Exactly. I'd love to see some kind of information (if it even exists yet) of how many people that are watching are familiar with the book. As big as the book was, it was only big in certain circles and also that was a long time ago. I'm probably one of the biggest Gaiman fans in here (or certainly one who has been a fan of his the longest) but until the rumors about this show started, American Gods was just not something I thought about much. I probably thought about re-reading Neverwhere more often. Even the first time I read it took me months because the plot kept stopping dead for long stretches, and at that time I was a "superfan". Judging by how other show reactions go, I imagine anyone who isn't a book fan is very soon going to start wondering when we get answers. Problem here? There aren't that many answers. Who's Wednesday/Nancy/etc? They are unambiguously capital-G Gods. They're not aliens, there's no mystery here, they're Gods, that's it. The New Gods aren't ever a mystery, they come right out in the book AND show and say "Hey, we're the new gods of technology and tv and stuff". How did the New Gods come to be? No mystery there. Why'd Laura come back? The coin, already answered in the show. What's the plan? Well, this episode the plan was explicitly stated. God War. Who's Mr. World? He's Loki, and you can only reveal that at the very end of the plot. So the question becomes, once the spectacle and the weird wears off - what's the non-book-fan's motivation to keep watching? These are things that I hope Gaiman/Fuller/STARZ are asking, but knowing Gaiman and Fuller, I know that both are "above" caring about that (and in Gaiman's case, I can't blame him, since he's set for life no matter how this show does).
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Shows can definitely have both lasting broad appeal and critical acclaim while being obtuse and slow moving (see my av for an example), but I agree that there's always a chance of bloat taking over and making people lose interest (Scrubs, The X-Files, etc). I have faith (ha) in this one, though. It's been pretty perfect so far, and I think people will keep tuning in for the spectacle if nothing else. I hope, anyway.
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But hey on a lighter note, can we agree that the line of the entire series so far was Glover's monologue here? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tfjJcLmyfY But they are buying salsa
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Nah. Still beaten by You're an rear end in a top hat, dead wife. But Glover was amazing, true. edit: something I've noticed: during the sales pitch World & Media give, I think that Wednesday's beating the table was ad-libbed. Watch Technical Boy's reaction. 
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double nine posted:Nah. Still beaten by You're an rear end in a top hat, dead wife. But Glover was amazing, true. Definitely. He's trying not to laugh at it in fact. Goddamn does Glover just own the entire space he is in as Mr. World. Precision, I must have missed it, what were the major clues about Mr. World's identity from the episode itself? I mean, I've read the book, I know what's what, but I didn't see any overt clues there with the new episode.
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Uh... I don't remember Mr. World being Loki. They're even played by different actors.
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I guess there weren't any clues that he's specifically Loki, but it seemed a lot more hinted at that Mr. World is working with Wednesday than in the book. Book Mr. World never made me think "oh, he actually does just want to work with the new Gods". There was a knowing smirk on Wednesday's face when he says the bit about "you're a loner, working alone" etc. They're diverging a lot now though - are we even going to get Mr. Town and the others? In the book, Mr. World wasn't really set up as a powerful bad guy, him and Town and the others were just the muscle for Media and the others. The show looks to be presenting him as the God of One World Conspiracies rather than The "God" of Black Helicopters - similar but with some very key differences. The way the show is presenting him is like "This guy is more powerful than all of you" rather than "this guy is the God Police". Vorgen posted:Uh... I don't remember Mr. World being Loki. They're even played by different actors. In case you're not joking, this is the thread for people who have read the book in which it is revealed that Mr. World is literally Loki and him and Wednesday are conning everyone
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i think i missed it, but is that meant to be yggdrssil in the police station or is that meant to be Mr Wood (the spooks in the book)?
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Mr Wood was working with Mr Town and Mr World so I'm pretty sure it was the World Tree, yeah get it WORLD TREE
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Media-As-Bowie briefly mentioned Mr. Town to Technical Kid I believe.
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precision posted:Mr Wood was working with Mr Town and Mr World so I'm pretty sure it was the World Tree, yeah take me to the darkness now mr jacquel
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precision posted:So the question becomes, once the spectacle and the weird wears off - what's the non-book-fan's motivation to keep watching? These are things that I hope Gaiman/Fuller/STARZ are asking, but knowing Gaiman and Fuller, I know that both are "above" caring about that (and in Gaiman's case, I can't blame him, since he's set for life no matter how this show does). Maybe I'll put in something - I read the book, but I'm not very hot on it (it was OK, but not special). I already started losing interest in the last episode, during the New Gods pitch. A lot of people are saying it was great, to me it, it was just a very generic "and now the bad guys come and threaten/cajole the good guys, but leave them alone" scene. And it dragged for goddamn far too long. And, while Anderson's Bowie was perfect, the Marilyn just made my eyes roll. And World simply bored me, and if that's whom I'm supposed to spend time with on this show, I'm not keen on that. Sweeney and Laura were just the best, though. So... I looked at the titles of the coming episodes. 7, "A Prayer for Mad Sweeney", is probably the one where he dies, and has that intro about the Irish girl also played by Laura's actress? I intend to watch until that one. This gives the show two more episodes to bring in someone equally interesting to keep up my attention. Easter, maybe? So, in return for this honesty, I have a question of my own. Does this season have 8 or 10 episodes? Wikipedia lists only 8, but I seem to recall some interview mentioning a 10-episode order for the season? e: For what it's worth, one of the most interesting things to me about this show is how similar it and The Handmaid's Tale are. Both are based on books that don't have much plot, and that are far more about the worldbuilding than the action. So, both are incredibly slow - both recently had episodes dealing with "what happened to the significant other", for example. The Handmaid's Tale still has three episodes to go this season, and there are literally three important things from the books that haven't happened yet. I wonder if it's some new genre of slow, deliberate, worlbuilding-focused series coming up, or something. meristem fucked around with this message at 05:30 on May 29, 2017 |
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I loved the music in the opening. I like how it cut out to emphasize and how it resumed to push the story forward again. Good job, Brian Reitzell.
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So many good lines. (Media floats in as Marilyn Monroe) I Love Lucy? Youre a loving rear end in a top hat, Dead Wife!
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YOU'RE AN rear end in a top hat, DEAD WIFE! Holy loving poo poo, best episode so far? More things happened in this one episode than the whole season so far put together. So many great things. Watching Pornstache get the piss beat out of him is AMAZING. Pablo Schreiber has been wasted on dramas, he belongs in slapstick comedy. Gillian Anderson was in pretty great form throughout as well. Just wow.
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Anyone figure out what was going on in the intro scene for this episode? Didn't make a whole lot of sense to me. In the book the god (screw trying to spell it out) tells his people they need to move to avoid a cataclysm they can't understand which turns out to be some sort of ancient Tunguska event, and they move his effigy and the Shaman dies (sacrificed, whatever) before making it to North America which itself is fruitful but as people grow and expand they forget about the original god. In this it looks like they were told to move to avoid starvation but found nothing, the Shaman was sacrificed to provide food but then it seems like the tribe killed the god in buffalo form to harvest his meat and that was about it?
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nessin posted:Anyone figure out what was going on in the intro scene for this episode? Didn't make a whole lot of sense to me. In the book the god (screw trying to spell it out) tells his people they need to move to avoid a cataclysm they can't understand which turns out to be some sort of ancient Tunguska event, and they move his effigy and the Shaman dies (sacrificed, whatever) before making it to North America which itself is fruitful but as people grow and expand they forget about the original god. Not exactly. Mammoth God tells his people that the only way to survive is to sacrifice the adults (and the God himself) so that their children will survive as followers of the Buffalo God.
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