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dead comedy forums posted:but the thing here is that it works for the Anglosphere/Nordic/Germanic audiences, but Latin language countries, for example, wouldn't get it since Wednesday would be Mercury's day (Miércoles/Mercredi/Mercoledi/etc) since the names come from the Roman traditions. How do translations of the book handle that?
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An interview from 2011 has Gaiman saying that American Gods 2 would be focused almost entirely on the new Gods. So now I'm suddenly MUCH more interested in it happening.
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Toast Museum posted:How do translations of the book handle that? They...don't? If you are a nerd enough to know the origin of weekdays you probably know them both in your language and in english, so you'd still get it. I'm also in camp totally missed the Low Key thing.
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May 30, 2017 05:17
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Toast Museum posted:Am I seeing things, or was Mr. World going into and slightly out of focus during his scene, especially during closeups? That's a nice subtle visual cue that something's off with him. It looked to me like they used image stabilization on him to make his face unnaturally immobile while all of the vibrations and movements of his body cause the screen to jitter instead. It's very subtle. They probably used the tip of his nose or some other part of his face as the tracking point. The only other film I can think of that used this technique is one of the transformation sequences in Ang Lee's Hulk, where the frame is pinned on Eric Bana's pupils and remains locked on his eyes while he moves and writhes and turns into the Hulk.
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muscles like this! posted:It was funny how Mr World couldn't stop himself from tipping his hand to Shadow by repeatedly asking him if they had met before. "I AM NOT YOUR ENEMY" drat Mr. World being a little too obvious there aren't you  Choco1980 posted:Oh, Loki has a lot of names. Not as many as Odin, but still quite a few. Skywalker, for instance. Especially considering he met him in prison, should have called him Luke. Then Lowkey could have joked "you know, like Luke Skywalker! In the star war! Or Cool Hand Luke if you like." Terror Sweat posted:i forgot, what happens when a powerful god is murdered. does he just come back again later in a different form or something Gods probably aren't able to die, as long as they have worship they should probably be able to like, "re-manifest". Wednesday mentions that the doesn't mind dying, the only thing he doesn't want is to be forgotten. And then we see that gods who are no longer worshiped lose all connection to the real world and exist in a kind of limbo, and gods who are completely forgotten fade away entirely. And his plan was to die at the end, and then get tons of worship. If gods can't come back after they die, that's a pretty Pyrrhic victory for Wednesday. I guess you could say he died but kept some worship so that's better than nothing, but I dunno. I think his plan was to get all that worship and then come back, and Shadow fucks up his plan so he doesn't come back. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 06:14 on May 30, 2017 |
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Was the spider unlocking the handcuffs Anansi or another animal aide? I don't remember Odin having an affiliation with spiders, but I don't see Anansi hitching a ride in Wednesday's coattails just for the off-chance that he needs to get Wednesay out of trouble in some way. Also given Anansi's personality I wouldn't want to rely on a drat trickster god in a pinch. That's just asking for trouble.
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double nine posted:Was the spider unlocking the handcuffs Anansi or another animal aide? I don't remember Odin having an affiliation with spiders, but I don't see Anansi hitching a ride in Wednesday's coattails just for the off-chance that he needs to get Wednesay out of trouble in some way. Also given Anansi's personality I wouldn't want to rely on a drat trickster god in a pinch. That's just asking for trouble. He introduces the spider to Shadow as Mr. Nancy, doesn't he? It's definitely him
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May 30, 2017 14:23
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Crow Jane posted:He introduces the spider to Shadow as Mr. Nancy, doesn't he? It's definitely him I believe he just says "See that spider? It's an old friend". But there's only been one spider in the entire show so far, so I doubt it's supposed to be at all mysterious. I'm wondering if the Bilquis scenes' purpose was to show that even the Old Gods can be just as selfish as the New ones. I mean she is just straight up murdering people to stay young/healthy.
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May 30, 2017 14:28
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I mean we've seen Anansi as a colourful spider dude who has a thing for freeing people, concluding that the colourful spider that frees Shadow and Wednesday is Anansi is not exactly a huge stretch of the imagination
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Probably. I'd maybe argue against it being straight up murder though... I mean, it is, technically, but everyone involved seemed pretty into it. That likely wouldn't stand up in a courtroom setting, of course
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They were doing this thing with Mr World in the close ups where they shot him with a handheld camera and then stabilized the shot around his face, so things look extra shimmy around him. It was a really good use of the technology. Edit: someone beat me to it.
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Toast Museum posted:I think what Wednesday says is that they do die, and something like them but not them turns up after a while. yeah im just wonderin what happens to technical boy
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Terror Sweat posted:yeah im just wonderin what happens to technical boy What if Startup Techbro is a new Technical Boy that replaced Matrix Goon Technical Boy sometime in the late 2000s?
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Toast Museum posted:How do translations of the book handle that? in Portuguese it is extra-special because Portugal was the only Christian nation to effectively abolish pagan naming for the days, so Wednesday is "Quarta-Feira", which in a literal translation means "fourth fair", based on medieval tradition of gathering around the square and such my sister is reading it right now and she doesn't have a clue that he is the American aspect of Odin, but I think some translator notes will show up eventually
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ZorajitZorajit posted:What if Startup Techbro is a new Technical Boy that replaced Matrix Goon Technical Boy sometime in the late 2000s? That would be pretty cool!
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Crow Jane posted:That likely wouldn't stand up in a courtroom setting, of course No body, no crime?
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precision posted:That would be pretty cool! Matrix Goon died in the Dot Com crash, and Tech Bro was his rebirth
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hangedman1984 posted:No body, no crime? Theoretically, but she's a dark skinned immigrant, so she'd probably be doomed.
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As the American revival of those immigrants who used to truly believe in the Queen of Sheba, Bilquis's actually a native-born citizen 
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Mameluke posted:As the American revival of those immigrants who used to truly believe in the Queen of Sheba, Bilquis's actually a native-born citizen Sadly, you can leave out the immigrant bit and my statement still applies 
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Mameluke posted:As the American revival of those immigrants who used to truly believe in the Queen of Sheba, Bilquis's actually a native-born citizen  where's the long form
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yeah, that was definitely Mr. Nancy that feed Wednesday. I have to imagine he had to ask him to somehow, and that was probably the worst part of the whole jail experience for him!
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May 30, 2017 21:37
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Clip of an upcoming god being introduced in episode 6
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Mameluke posted:As the American revival of those immigrants who used to truly believe in the Queen of Sheba, Bilquis's actually a native-born citizen I always figured she came over with the Christians and other Abrahamic traditions not from people actually worshipping her. Any worship of her as a god would died out hundreds of year before the believers had a chance to emigrate to America.
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precision posted:I'm wondering if the Bilquis scenes' purpose was to show that even the Old Gods can be just as selfish as the New ones. I mean she is just straight up murdering people to stay young/healthy. Someone earlier posted suggesting the same, and it seems extra possible since they changed the nature of the dude. In the book he was more of a dick who was using her as a prostitute, where in the show he was some kind old man just trying to get back into dating. They turned her into more of a predator, probably to let the audience know all the gods are playing for keeps and nothing is quite as simple as black and white.
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So far maybe, who knows? An interesting addition in any case. Looking forward to the next episode.
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God of the NRA. Can I be the first to say yeeee-haaa?
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:I always figured she came over with the Christians and other Abrahamic traditions not from people actually worshipping her. Any worship of her as a god would died out hundreds of year before the believers had a chance to emigrate to America. The book claims a lot of forgotten ancient migration.
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dead comedy forums posted:the only greco-roman god to be shown, then? We'll see about the show, but yeah Gaiman said he avoided the Greek Pantheon because it was too well known, but he made an exception for Vulkan because apparently there was a lot of Vulkan related coins found in America somewhere or something like that, plus changing him to the god of guns makes pretty logical sense for America.
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Zaphod42 posted:We'll see about the show, but yeah Gaiman said he avoided the Greek Pantheon because it was too well known, but he made an exception for Vulkan because apparently there was a lot of Vulkan related coins found in America somewhere or something like that, plus changing him to the god of guns makes pretty logical sense for America. It's not even really "changing" him. He's the God of Smithery. He built weapons, armor, hell, even ROBOTS back in the Greek and Roman myths, like constantly. The word isn't "Gunsmith" because it was a new idea, smithing guns is just the logical next step from smithing swords. He didn't stop making weapons, he just started making more modern ones.
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Zaphod42 posted:Someone earlier posted suggesting the same, and it seems extra possible since they changed the nature of the dude. In the book he was more of a dick who was using her as a prostitute, where in the show he was some kind old man just trying to get back into dating. They turned her into more of a predator, probably to let the audience know all the gods are playing for keeps and nothing is quite as simple as black and white. Yeah, I'm hesitantly taking back my accusations that those scenes were pointless. Just didn't keep the long con in mind, I guess 
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It occurs to me they missed an opportunity to have Media say "So where is the spider?" 
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Choco1980 posted:It's not even really "changing" him. He's the God of Smithery. He built weapons, armor, hell, even ROBOTS back in the Greek and Roman myths, like constantly. The word isn't "Gunsmith" because it was a new idea, smithing guns is just the logical next step from smithing swords. He didn't stop making weapons, he just started making more modern ones. True, but the rest of his roles; armor, horseshoes, forges, etc. have pretty much lost all meaning in American worship, so its all guns guns guns for him now, was kinda my point. The American gods are different from the original versions of them. Wednesday isn't quite a perfect Odin.
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Crow Jane posted:I could see him being the god of manufacturing in general ...that'd explain why he's on the decline at least. 
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