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turn off the TV
Aug 4, 2010

moderately annoying

Orv posted:

Oh no friend, read closer. That is a mod for Skyrim, which is a sequel to a weird fetish mod for Oblivion.

The future is now motherfucker.

Maid fetish fiction is Elder Scrolls canon.

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HenryEx
Mar 25, 2009

...your cybernetic implants, the only beauty in that meat you call "a body"...
Grimey Drawer
i'll wait for the Touch The Skyrim episode on it

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice
If you don't spend 30 hours deciding how to dress your maid every time I don't know what to tell you

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

HenryEx posted:

i'll wait for the Touch The Skyrim episode on it

Goddamn I hear that theme every time I read those three words.

Kokoro Wish
Jul 23, 2007

Post? What post? Oh wow.
I had nothing to do with THAT.

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


Argonian lizard tits?

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


Kavak posted:

Argonian lizard tits?

Surprisingly smooth lizard tits at that. Must take a lot of sanding and waxing to get results like that.

Brainamp
Sep 4, 2011

More Zen than Zenyatta

Kavak posted:

Argonian lizard tits?

Deathclaw

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug

Brainamp posted:

Deathclaw

I couldn't really tell you why but I always find it hilarious that a scaly monster turned into something vaguely human, even if she still has a monster head, still has perfectly smooth boobs. Even if the rest of her is a hideous, scaly, sharp monster that can be dangerous just kind of standing next to you her breasts will be immaculate.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

ToxicSlurpee posted:

I couldn't really tell you why but I always find it hilarious that a scaly monster turned into something vaguely human, even if she still has a monster head, still has perfectly smooth boobs. Even if the rest of her is a hideous, scaly, sharp monster that can be dangerous just kind of standing next to you her breasts will be immaculate.

How do you think most modders probably perceive actual women? :v:

The Cheshire Cat
Jun 10, 2008

Fun Shoe

ToxicSlurpee posted:

I couldn't really tell you why but I always find it hilarious that a scaly monster turned into something vaguely human, even if she still has a monster head, still has perfectly smooth boobs. Even if the rest of her is a hideous, scaly, sharp monster that can be dangerous just kind of standing next to you her breasts will be immaculate.

Slightly :nws:: http://oglaf.com/dimorphism/

Schubalts
Nov 26, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life, I think I've gone too far.
Pocket Sand Returns

quote:

Additionally there is a new hat: Dale's Hat. While wearing Dale's hat pocket sand will collect in your pockets every 4 in-game hours. It also channels the essence of Dale, increasing your ability to sniff out a conspiracy by 2, as well as providing a very very minor resist to common methods the government uses to control your mind. It can be crafted at the chem bench in the UTILITY category.

Midnight Voyager
Jul 2, 2008

Lipstick Apathy

Skellybones posted:

There's a part of a book where the King of Cormyr yells at his daughter about the importance of never resurrecting a King or Queen, even himself, even if it's from assassination or war, because it would upset too many nobles and violate ancient bullshit laws.

That's at least clever.

dont be mean to me
May 2, 2007

I'm interplanetary, bitch
Let's go to Mars


Midnight Voyager posted:

That's at least clever.

Girl Genius end-ran around the ethical qualms of not resurrecting a person because they were politically significant by societies having laws that vacate any titles you hold at death, even if you're later resurrected. Hope you didn't abuse your family and connections! (Or you can cover up the fact you died :ninja:) Presumably radical longevity treatments and credentials that are a simple matter of competency and experience don't present the same legal kerfuffles.

The Cheshire Cat
Jun 10, 2008

Fun Shoe

dont be mean to me posted:

Girl Genius end-ran around the ethical qualms of not resurrecting a person because they were politically significant by societies having laws that vacate any titles you hold at death, even if you're later resurrected. Hope you didn't abuse your family and connections! (Or you can cover up the fact you died :ninja:) Presumably radical longevity treatments and credentials that are a simple matter of competency and experience don't present the same legal kerfuffles.

See I feel like it would be more interesting to tell a story based on a society society where resurrection IS fairly commonplace, and what the consequences of that would be, rather than trying to have it mirror historical settings more or less exactly. I think in standard D&D rules there are a few exceptions for even the most powerful resurrection spells (I think the main one is that the person has to WANT to be resurrected for it to work - although I also think death by old age also can't be reversed by resurrection? That one might be a bit fuzzy because of all the various ways people can extend their natural lifespan in that setting so what constitutes "old age" is vague), so it's not like nobody would die ever, but it also means that you can't just kill someone to make your problems go away. It also kind of suggests that if you do kill someone accidentally or in the heat of the moment, the punishment would be a lot less severe than real life.

I dunno if anyone who has ever written a D&D book has ever really played with that though. They aren't exactly written by top tier authors. Or even top tier by fantasy standards.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
Isn't the reagent requirement that most of these systems have a way to get around it? If you can only resurrect someone with a pouch full of diamond dust or a unicorn's horn or something, it becomes a far greater barrier than anyone could deal with normally.

Obligatum VII
May 5, 2014

Haunting you until no 8 arrives.

The Cheshire Cat posted:

See I feel like it would be more interesting to tell a story based on a society society where resurrection IS fairly commonplace, and what the consequences of that would be, rather than trying to have it mirror historical settings more or less exactly. I think in standard D&D rules there are a few exceptions for even the most powerful resurrection spells (I think the main one is that the person has to WANT to be resurrected for it to work - although I also think death by old age also can't be reversed by resurrection? That one might be a bit fuzzy because of all the various ways people can extend their natural lifespan in that setting so what constitutes "old age" is vague), so it's not like nobody would die ever, but it also means that you can't just kill someone to make your problems go away. It also kind of suggests that if you do kill someone accidentally or in the heat of the moment, the punishment would be a lot less severe than real life.

I dunno if anyone who has ever written a D&D book has ever really played with that though. They aren't exactly written by top tier authors. Or even top tier by fantasy standards.

The Vlad Taltos novels by Steven Brust have exactly that kind of a world, although there are ways to prevent resurrections. Assassination can actually just be a warning in that setting, since you can get better unless they're REALLY pissed and have you killed with a certain variety of soul eating weapon.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Or if they confiscate the head.

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

The Lone Badger posted:

Or if they confiscate the head.

I was going to say that you could always zombie or Highlander rules where people can only be resurrected so long as their heads are intact and still connected.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

IIRC in Taltos the head doesn't have to be connected, but you do have to have it. If some rear end in a top hat takes it with them that'll prevent resurrection.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

The Cheshire Cat posted:

See I feel like it would be more interesting to tell a story based on a society society where resurrection IS fairly commonplace, and what the consequences of that would be, rather than trying to have it mirror historical settings more or less exactly. I think in standard D&D rules there are a few exceptions for even the most powerful resurrection spells (I think the main one is that the person has to WANT to be resurrected for it to work - although I also think death by old age also can't be reversed by resurrection? That one might be a bit fuzzy because of all the various ways people can extend their natural lifespan in that setting so what constitutes "old age" is vague), so it's not like nobody would die ever, but it also means that you can't just kill someone to make your problems go away. It also kind of suggests that if you do kill someone accidentally or in the heat of the moment, the punishment would be a lot less severe than real life.

It's sci-fi rather than fantasy, but go read Altered Carbon.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug

dont be mean to me posted:

Girl Genius end-ran around the ethical qualms of not resurrecting a person because they were politically significant by societies having laws that vacate any titles you hold at death, even if you're later resurrected. Hope you didn't abuse your family and connections! (Or you can cover up the fact you died :ninja:) Presumably radical longevity treatments and credentials that are a simple matter of competency and experience don't present the same legal kerfuffles.

Then they even goobered that up too to show how screwed up the world is in the comic. Baron Wulfenbach is a construct that has probably died at least once. He was powerful enough to just go "lol gently caress y'all I'm a baron and I run Europe now."

He set up Gilgamesh as his heir but it's implied that he's a construct as well or, at the very least, Klaus would "break him down for parts" if his son wasn't good enough.

...

Girl Genius is a good comic.

Memento posted:

Isn't the reagent requirement that most of these systems have a way to get around it? If you can only resurrect someone with a pouch full of diamond dust or a unicorn's horn or something, it becomes a far greater barrier than anyone could deal with normally.

Generally yeah. That or the spells to bring back the dead can't bring you back if you died naturally or they bring you back worse than you were. In D&D in particular Raise Dead damages an attribute (always Constitution I think? Or at least it used to be...haven't played since 3.5), Reincarnate brings you back as something different, and Resurrect is crazy expensive. That's really a big question, though; if you can have a priest just go "lol cure X wounds" instead of giving you stitches or splinting a broken arm how will people respond to that?

ToxicSlurpee fucked around with this message at 07:26 on Jun 2, 2017

The MSJ
May 17, 2010

ToxicSlurpee posted:

Girl Genius is a good comic.

Surprising too considering its creators are famous for their weird fetish porn comics that would fit right in with the mods we discuss here.

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

Neddy Seagoon posted:

It's sci-fi rather than fantasy, but go read Altered Carbon.

Seconding this.

double nine
Aug 8, 2013

The MSJ posted:

Surprising too considering its creators are famous for their weird fetish porn comics that would fit right in with the mods we discuss here.

iirc it got started because (one of ?) the creators wanted to be able to show their kids their work when asked about it.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






Neddy Seagoon posted:

It's sci-fi rather than fantasy, but go read Altered Carbon.

Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars trilogy has a pretty good through-line about the social ramifications of widespread (but not ubiquitous) anti-aging technology as well.

Glagha
Oct 13, 2008

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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AAaaAAAAaaaAAAAAAA
AaaAaaAAAaaaaaAA

It's funny because Foglio is also notorious for also drawing a ton of goofy, cartoonish Magic: The Gathering card art that old school players either love or hate.

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches

Agents are GO! posted:

Seconding this.

thirded

Kokoro Wish
Jul 23, 2007

Post? What post? Oh wow.
I had nothing to do with THAT.
Foglio's art is fuglio. Also gently caress your "Gaslamp Fantasy".

Bieeanshee
Aug 21, 2000

Not keen on keening.


Grimey Drawer
Both of the Foglios drew old-school Magic cards, and they're some of my favourite art from the early sets.

(And it's probably worth noting that while their old XXXenophile output can be seriously weird, it's also vastly more sex-positive than the poo poo we've ewwed and arghed at in here.)

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


I mean the stuff in here is pretty positive about sex.

Skellybones
May 31, 2011




Fun Shoe
Ahh, Foglio and Oblivion mods, two great sources of lumpen potato people.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
sex......................good??????????????????

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug

Bieeardo posted:

Both of the Foglios drew old-school Magic cards, and they're some of my favourite art from the early sets.

(And it's probably worth noting that while their old XXXenophile output can be seriously weird, it's also vastly more sex-positive than the poo poo we've ewwed and arghed at in here.)

I haven't read much of that but I really don't think Foglio gets into really, really weird fetish territory. He's even said a few times where he draws lines with an attitude of "yeah no that's too far go away." Things can be sexy without being creepy if you do it right.

In the case of weird mods it isn't being sexy in a healthy, sex-positive way it's often treating women like they're objects to be used more than anything. Foglio's female characters aren't just sex objects to be ogled. They have actual personalities. It's a pretty big difference.

Gynovore
Jun 17, 2009

Forget your RoboCoX or your StickyCoX or your EvilCoX, MY CoX has Blinking Bewbs!

WHY IS THIS GAME DEAD?!

The MSJ posted:

Surprising too considering its creators are famous for their weird fetish porn comics that would fit right in with the mods we discuss here.

I used to have a set of XXXenophile (six issues). I'd recommend reading it if you ever find copies, it's really funny. It's kinda fetishy but not creepy. From what I've heard from con-goers, Phil and Kaja are awesome people.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord

Kokoro Wish posted:

Foglio's art is fuglio. Also gently caress your "Gaslamp Fantasy".

It's so loving ugly

Shady Amish Terror
Oct 11, 2007
I'm not Amish by choice. 8(
Looking it up, hahaha, poo poo, THAT art.

Yeah, that style is really loving ugly, but I love it. It's so campy and weird and gross, and it's also over-expressive and wild. Art can be ugly but still have strong merits and be good art, and I loved just looking at that weird poo poo. I seem to recall that an awful lot of the novels I grew up with with that cover art were unfortunately also of the 'campy, weird, and gross' variety, in hindsight.

ugh its Troika
May 2, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Girl Genius is cool, and good.

Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

Girl Genius is contraindicated for persons with a known sensitivity to Foglio art, but it's good. I wish to see more awful mods, please, however.

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Jagged Jim
Sep 26, 2013

I... I can only look though the window...
Why be chased around by a cosmic horror that looks like a giant blob of bubble gum when you can have a Sexy Erchius Ghost?

It's just so sexy. :nms: :nws:

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