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Not according to DOL. https://www.fuseworkforce.com/blog/flsa-computer-exemption-how-to-determine-if-employees-qualify Edit: Hoisted by my own petard. It does say staffing help desks in there. Yikes. Edit 2: https://www.dol.gov/whd/opinion/FLSA/2006/2006_10_26_42_FLSA.htm Or maybe so? Jesus Christ I need to contact a lawyer. milk milk lemonade fucked around with this message at 12:30 on Jun 4, 2017 |
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Bringing a lawyer on day one to reclassify a job as non-exempt sounds like the worst way to start at a new position. You should probably just negotiate for fair comp time when off-hour work needs to be done.
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All I'm getting from this discussion is that US labour laws are beyond atrocious and that i'm pretty happy to be living somewhere with decent employee protection laws and a culture that embraces good work/life balance.
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Wibla posted:All I'm getting from this discussion is that US labour laws are beyond atrocious and that i'm pretty happy to be living somewhere with decent employee protection laws and a culture that embraces good work/life balance. But do you have freedoms?
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Jeoh posted:But do you have freedoms? Yeah. How about you?
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Jun 4, 2017 13:34
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Pull up thread, pull up!
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Having got that out of the way, the lack of it security for industrial systems scares me. Especially when it's gas treatment systems or power supply related. Ugh. I'll probably have to put together a presentation on how badly things can go without some effort to secure the PLC/SCADA networks.
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Judge Schnoopy posted:Bringing a lawyer on day one to reclassify a job as non-exempt sounds like the worst way to start at a new position. You should probably just negotiate for fair comp time when off-hour work needs to be done. Lol no I should have been more clear. I'm not going to touch that with a ten foot pole, that's an HR problem. I just meant to understand it, it goes against everything I've ever been told regarding IT and exempt/non-exempt. I still don't think I understand what the official DOL guidance is.
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Wibla posted:All I'm getting from this discussion is that US labour laws are beyond atrocious and that i'm pretty happy to be living somewhere with decent employee protection laws and a culture that embraces good work/life balance.
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adorai posted:The laws are just fine. It's that some employers flagrantly violate them and employees either don't care or are afraid to speak up. It can be true that employers flagrantly violate the laws and also the laws are not just fine even when they're being obeyed, you know.
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adorai posted:The laws are just fine. It's that some employers flagrantly violate them and employees either don't care or are afraid to speak up. I'd like to try whatever it is you're smoking.
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Thanks Ants posted:Pull up thread, pull up! *ears perk up*
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Jun 4, 2017 17:55
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Working as exempt is fine, as long as the company doesn't abuse it. Unfortunately, the company usually abuses it, which is one of the reasons I work a non-exempt job.
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I wouldn't say "usually". We hear horror stories from the shithead bosses that abuse it, but I think most people here are treated fairly when it comes to 40 hour work weeks. There just isn't much to post about getting comp time or bugging out at 5 on the dot.
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Jun 4, 2017 21:30
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jaegerx posted:Once again. Do not use openstack unless you want that tech debt. Former developer and implementation engineer for openstack here. It's not good. I still maintain a Kilo cluster because it was the right fit for the problem we had at the time, but it was a month of implementation and it wasn't a decision that was arrived at lightly.
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Holy poo poo, just had a co-worker ask, repeatedly not getting it, why we would bother scanning the drives a customer sent us before plugging them into our shared cloud environment  Being back in hosting is gonna kill me.
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Jun 5, 2017 16:46
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RFC2324 posted:Being back in hosting is gonna kill me.
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Jun 5, 2017 17:10
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What's up IT people and grooming themselves on the job? Nail Clipping, Filling and even bushing their teeth...
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Jun 5, 2017 17:14
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How dare you tell me where I can and can't shave my rear end.
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Tab8715 posted:What's up IT people and grooming themselves on the job? What is this stuff? Is it something I should be worried about?
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Tab8715 posted:What's up IT people and grooming themselves on the job?
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Don't clip your fingernails at work. e: Can you give me your boss's name and number so I call him about this?
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anthonypants posted:I clip my fingernails at work sometimes because my coworker refuses to blow his loving nose and spends half the day clearing his sinuses and coughing from what has to be a horrible case of post-nasal drip. Tell him to lay off the coke.
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Tab8715 posted:What's up IT people and grooming themselves on the job? I've never seen this unless nose picking counts as grooming
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RFC2324 posted:Tell him to lay off the coke. Or share...
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Jun 5, 2017 17:22
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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Serious Hardware / Software Crap > Working in IT 3.0: Don't clip your fingernails at work
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MC Fruit Stripe posted:Don't clip your fingernails at work. I've never cut my nails at work, but came close to running down to the store to buy a clipper once when a nail was bothering me. I would have done it in the bathroom like a sane person not at my desk though.
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Goddamn. When I was contracting at Tech Mahindra it was a new project with all new employees. In our very first HR Meeting just after they introduced themselves the first thing they did was told a room over fifty adult men was they needed to wash their hands after using the bathroom.
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Jun 5, 2017 17:34
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Tab8715 posted:Goddamn. It's almost like the average computer janitor is a offensively disgusting manchild who shouldn't be let near other human beings in any form ever. Speaking of which, I wonder how DAF is doing
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CLAM DOWN posted:It's almost like the average computer janitor is a offensively disgusting manchild who shouldn't be let near other human beings in any form ever. Pretty much. But wash your Cheeto Dust encrusted hands. CLAM DOWN posted:Speaking of which, I wonder how DAF is doing Probably clipping his nails after using the bathroom without washing his hands. Gucci Loafers fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Jun 5, 2017 |
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Jun 5, 2017 17:40
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On topic: I just passed by the CEO's office his door is open, feet out of shoes on desk, he is cutting his toenails!
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pixaal posted:On topic: I just passed by the CEO's office his door is open, feet out of shoes on desk, he is cutting his toenails! Oh gently caress no
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pixaal posted:On topic: I just passed by the CEO's office his door is open, feet out of shoes on desk, he is cutting his toenails! Ask him if he is gonna paint them after.
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no no. Offer to paint them after.
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Jun 5, 2017 17:53
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pixaal posted:On topic: I just passed by the CEO's office his door is open, feet out of shoes on desk, he is cutting his toenails! eat the clippings to display dominance
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Jun 5, 2017 17:56
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Working in IT 3.0: Eat the toenail clippings to display dominance.
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I was at a small conference (< 100 people) and somebody started clipping their fingernails during a presentation. It was an impressive power move.
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Ask me about workplace nail biting.
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Nerdrock posted:Working in IT 3.0: Eat the toenail clippings to display dominance.
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There's this new guy at work who keeps banging his wrist chains/bracelets/somethings agains the table whenever he's typing.
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