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he1ixx
Aug 23, 2007

still bad at video games

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

I am doing this. I am still spending more time in Injustice 2 but am putting some time into Tekken every day or so.

Any Lili players? What are the hot strats and tactics? I have gotten as far as "Dress her up like Karin"

I took the plunge on being horrible at two fighters at the same time and I still love IJ2. Fun!

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he1ixx
Aug 23, 2007

still bad at video games
Is there any way to get the neato vampire girl if I didn't pre-order?

Foodahn
Oct 5, 2006

Pillbug

guts and bolts posted:

Is Jin playable if you can't reliably EWHF on a pad

Because that's where I am

I think so. I'm no Tekken player but, as far as I know, even the true Mishimas don't absolutely need EWGF and Jin has more tools than most of them (though is more jack of all trades rather than specialist). You can get a lot of mileage out of his stance and basic crouchdash stuff. I absolutely love FF+3 and F4~F.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

he1ixx posted:

Is there any way to get the neato vampire girl if I didn't pre-order?

Supposedly she'll be DLC in 30-60 days.

he1ixx
Aug 23, 2007

still bad at video games

Medullah posted:

Supposedly she'll be DLC in 30-60 days.

Awesome news. Thanks!

God Damn Dam God
Dec 24, 2004

I push buttons. I turn dials. I read numbers. Sometimes I make up little stories in my head about what the numbers mean.
Grimey Drawer
So I just stumbled upon a tournament called "Goon Cup 1" and decided that I'd join it. Pretty unsurprising that like all goon projects, the creator bailed as soon as it wasn't going the way he wanted. Yet another tournament where the host dropped in the final round :mad:

Weird Pumpkin
Oct 7, 2007

So I tried it out, and Josie's knee definitely doesn't connect after ws2,1


What is the combo from that move anyway?

felch me daddy jr.
Oct 30, 2009
Tonight's tournament experiences:

Tournament 1 through 3: host leaves after the first round.

Tournament 4: Get to the final, win the first two rounds convincingly, then it disconnects.

Tournament 5: Get to the final thanks to the high-ranking player I was going to face in the semis disconnecting, lose final, win second final match, win tournament for some reason?

My conclusion is that tournaments are awful and I'll probably stay away from them in the future. At least I got some panel unlocks for winning one.

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



Jmcrofts host more tournaments. Maybe for PC too

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




Can i get help with paul's
u/f+4, 3,2 b+1,2 Screw! qcf+2
I cant get the death fist to come out in time and connect with the screw. recovery seems too long

Combo from nobys guide btw

Thanks

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

tyblazitar posted:

Tonight's tournament experiences:

Tournament 1 through 3: host leaves after the first round.

Tournament 4: Get to the final, win the first two rounds convincingly, then it disconnects.

Tournament 5: Get to the final thanks to the high-ranking player I was going to face in the semis disconnecting, lose final, win second final match, win tournament for some reason?

My conclusion is that tournaments are awful and I'll probably stay away from them in the future. At least I got some panel unlocks for winning one.

For number 5 at least, thats how double elimination works.

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



poe meater
Feb 17, 2011
Is S! screw? What is Josie's screw in those combos? Seems to be numerous green spinny icons in the move list.

Jmcrofts
Jan 7, 2008

just chillin' in the club
Lipstick Apathy

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

Jmcrofts host more tournaments. Maybe for PC too

I'm gonna be hosting/streaming a shitload of tourneys tomorrow at 7 eastern. PS4 only again though sorry

DoubleDonut
Oct 22, 2010


Fallen Rib

poe meater posted:

Is S! screw? What is Josie's screw in those combos? Seems to be numerous green spinny icons in the move list.

In combo notation, the S! just means that they should be in screw state after the last move. So if you see "3,3 S!" or "f+2,3,4 S!" in a Josie combo it means that the 3,3 or the f+2,3,4 was your screw move.

ROFL Octopus
Jun 20, 2014

LET ME EXPLAIN

fnox posted:

Mini Akumer guide for someone coming from SF:

  • Raging Demon works differently than in SF, it can be comboed into with jab. The input shortcuts work, but none of the buffering tricks you could use to mask the input in SF4 do.
  • Forget about air fireballs, you can't use them as mixup tools because of sidesteps.
  • Poking with fireballs also are less punishing because of sidestepping.
  • Fireballs hit grounded enemies, use it as a closer.
  • DP and fireball shortcuts don't exist, you must do the full motion.
  • DP isn't invincible, don't use it on wakeup.
  • FADC works basically like it does in SF4, you just have to get used to doing it with the 1,2 buttons rather than 2,4 like it would be in a SF stick. It can be used to make things safe just like SF4.
  • 1,1 is a safe target combo that chains neatly into qcb+3 or DP.
  • 1,2 is also a safe target combo that can counterhit nearly everything but doesn't combo into anything without a wall.
  • df3 is your old s.MK and is as effective of a poke tool as that was.
  • poo poo like c.LK, qcb + LK, DP + LP, FADC exists and works exactly like it should (It's d3, qcb + 3, DP + 1, 12 ~ ff in here). Follow up with 4,3 and a fireball for a lot of damage that is easy to pull off.
  • fff 3 is like a neutral jump divekick that fucks with people's timing and can go over lows.
  • Demon Flip mixups are basically the same as always, you actually have more options now since every button is a different action. Watch out for sidesteps. Can't really get much off a whiffed one like in USF4.
  • Can't Korean Backdash? Use DP+34 instead.
  • 1 into Fireball FADC is an interesting yet pretty complicated opener that is safe and leads into a lot of options.
  • There's no crossups in this game, don't even think about it.

I don't know what a fireball shortcut looks like, but the SFIV df,d,df shoryuken shortcut very much works.

poe meater
Feb 17, 2011

DoubleDonut posted:

In combo notation, the S! just means that they should be in screw state after the last move. So if you see "3,3 S!" or "f+2,3,4 S!" in a Josie combo it means that the 3,3 or the f+2,3,4 was your screw move.

Ahh I see, thanks! Anyone know a low parry combo for Josie?

Keegers
Aug 11, 2014



People keep leaving in casual after they lose once. I just long sets with randoms for a bit.

Sir_Phobos
May 24, 2011

Don't you wanna see it?

Elvis_Maximus posted:

So I tried it out, and Josie's knee definitely doesn't connect after ws2,1


What is the combo from that move anyway?

After WS+2,1, you can pick them up by doing a small dash and then d+3,4~f (into crouch dash) 1,3 for the screw, then db+4,2,3 for the ender.

poe meater posted:

Ahh I see, thanks! Anyone know a low parry combo for Josie?

I think after low parry you can do f+3, 2,4~f (crouch dash) 1,3, then an ender. If that doesn't work, try f+3, 3,2~f, CD+1,3.

Sarchasm
Apr 14, 2002

So that explains why he did not answer. He had no mouth to answer with. There is nothing left of him but his ears.

Keegers posted:

People keep leaving in casual after they lose once. I just long sets with randoms for a bit.

Just be grateful you're getting matches. I'm averaging one match every 30 minutes if I'm lucky. The PS4 matchmaking is loving broken.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




I think i love feng

Arzachel
May 12, 2012

Elvis_Maximus posted:

If you land a f1+2 you can get a really easy combo by doing a dash then d/f1,4,2. The key here is that the dash is interrupted by the d/f so the input is basically ff~d/f1

You don't need to dash although it might help to get the timing right, I just do f1+2 *wait for their legs to pop into the air* d/f1,4,2 and it works even on the smaller characters.

Sir_Phobos posted:

I think after low parry you can do f+3, 2,4~f (crouch dash) 1,3, then an ender. If that doesn't work, try f+3, 3,2~f, CD+1,3.

Does that do more damage than just f3 4 f2,3,4 S! f2,3,4?

Here's a list I've made mostly from the TZ discord, still missing CH SWS launches and probably more:
d/f+2 or u/f+4:
f3 3,3 S! f2,3,4 - easy - 47/50 dmg
f1+2 4 f2,3,4 S! f2,3,4 - still easy - 57/60 dmg
f1+2 4 1,2,4~f CD1,3, WR3 - corner carry

f1+2:
d3+4 - easy - 39 dmg
d/f+1,4,2 - delay a bunch, can be confirmed into - 49 dmg
Rage Drive

b1+2:
f3 d3,4~f CD1,3 f2,3,4

CD2: (not yet tested)
f3 f3 f3 3,3 S! f2,3,4
f3 f1+2 f2,3,4 S! f2,3,4
f3 f3 f3 f2,3,4 S! 3,f3

u/f+3:
d3,4~f CD1 3,3 S! f2,3,4

Magic 4:
f+1+2 f2,3,4 S! f2,3,4 - 61 dmg

CH f3+4:
f2,3,4 S! f2,3,4 - easy - 60 dmg
f2,3,4 S! f3 1,2,4~f CD3 - very strict timing on CD3 - 69 dmg

WS2,1:
d3+4 - easy
cd3 - easy
d3,4~f CD1,3 S! (3,f3 or d/b4,2,3)

Low parry:
f3 4 f2,3,4 S! f2,3,4

Rage Drive: (not yet tested)
f1+2 CD3+4 f1+2 f2,3,4 S! f2,3,4
CD3+4 b1,1 S! f2,3,4 u/f+3+4

Wall:
f3,u/f+3+4 - picks up lower
2,4,SWS4 - better damage and oki

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

Now who looks even dumber?

Beef Witch
I just got bodied hard by an Eliza player who was doing nothing but fast pokes and throws and boy was that infuriating.

Brosnan
Nov 13, 2004

Pwning the incels with my waifu fg character. Get trolled :twisted:
Lipstick Apathy
Reminder that all of your online play dreams will come true if you join goons on Discord for matches: https://discord.gg/ZyasDV2

The Gorp
Jan 7, 2013

My style is impetuous,
My defenses are impregnable
My arms are tired
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aoGy7svG80

I made a video.
Enjoyment purposes only because it doesn't explain poo poo and does things that only work on newbie levels.

DoubleDonut
Oct 22, 2010


Fallen Rib
Are there hidden customizations, not listed on the customization list until they've been unlocked? I saw a video of a guy wearing what appeared to be King's Tekken 2 outfit - not just the t-shirt design with a tie, it had physics and everything.

Furthermore,

Sir_Phobos
May 24, 2011

Don't you wanna see it?

Arzachel posted:


Does that do more damage than just f3 4 f2,3,4 S! f2,3,4?

Oh, yours does more damage, I just tested them.

Low parry, f+3, 2,4~f, CD+1,3 S! f+2,3,4 = 44 dmg
Low parry, f+3, 4, f+2,3,4 S! f+2,3,4 = 45 dmg

SuccinctAndPunchy
Mar 29, 2013

People are supposed to get hurt by things. It's fucked up to not. It's not good for you.

The Gorp posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aoGy7svG80

I made a video.
Enjoyment purposes only because it doesn't explain poo poo and does things that only work on newbie levels.

You're a good person.

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



Finally worked up some courage to play some online matches. Mostly got schooled, of course, but I did manage one win. 3D fighters are cool -- dude kept charging at me like a bull, and sidestepping and chopping him in the back felt pretty good

Lothire
Jan 27, 2007

Rx Suicide emailed me and all I got was this amazingly awesome forum account.

Tortured By Flan

Real hurthling! posted:

I think i love feng

There's a lot to love about that crazy shaolin gangster, but I wish I could find a better pair of monk-like pants for the guy.

The Gorp
Jan 7, 2013

My style is impetuous,
My defenses are impregnable
My arms are tired
I normally don't care about achievements but I'm only missing "Win a tournament" and the tournament system looks dead on PC.

CRISPYBABY
Dec 15, 2007

by Reene
This game kinda shits out achievements at you tbh. I'm always surprised at how many pop up when I'm being a piece of poo poo grinding treasure mode. I feel like I'm doing nothing and then bam I get 5 achievements.

Evil Canadian
Sep 10, 2000

No one man should have all that Psycho-Power.

Haven't had a chance to go online yet, but which online feature is broken on ps4 again? Just everything? Or is it something more specific.

Sarchasm
Apr 14, 2002

So that explains why he did not answer. He had no mouth to answer with. There is nothing left of him but his ears.

Evil Canadian posted:

Haven't had a chance to go online yet, but which online feature is broken on ps4 again? Just everything? Or is it something more specific.

Anything with matchmaking is busted. Tournaments work fine and you can send/accept invites.

Be careful joining random tournaments though. If the host bails the whole thing is disbanded and everyone gets booted.

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free

Evil Canadian posted:

Haven't had a chance to go online yet, but which online feature is broken on ps4 again? Just everything? Or is it something more specific.

anything matchmaking based because it's being slammed

tourneys work fine

fnox
May 19, 2013



ROFL Octopus posted:

I don't know what a fireball shortcut looks like, but the SFIV df,d,df shoryuken shortcut very much works.

Shinku hadoken shortcut, d,df,d,f + p. SFIV counted all diagonals as two simultaneous inputs almost like a plink so it works for either. It would annoyingly cause EX Shoryu to come out instead of Metsu Hadoken occasionally since the inputs overlap, which has never happened to me in this game despite spending 5 hours in training mode yesterday running through different combinations. I tbh haven't found much use to Shinku hadoken anyway so that's a good thing.

Also, to anyone having trouble against Katarina: literally let go of the stick, you block high by default. Focus on ducking under her high kicks for a CH fast low, almost all of her 4 poo poo is unsafe so simply punish after, and her lows are so slow you should be able to parry everything.

felch me daddy jr.
Oct 30, 2009

Real hurthling! posted:

Can i get help with paul's
u/f+4, 3,2 b+1,2 Screw! qcf+2
I cant get the death fist to come out in time and connect with the screw. recovery seems too long

Combo from nobys guide btw

Thanks
Honestly the finisher is the easier part of that combo imo, but maybe your deathfist is too slow? Make sure to hit 2 just as you get to the f in qcf, don't wait until you see the sway.

Also you could try switching the deathfist for a dash, d+4,2,1+2, it's considered harder but the timing is still pretty lenient and it does more damage.

Your Computer
Oct 3, 2008




Grimey Drawer
I'm really bad at poking and punishing, so I decided to try playing without my hopkick and combos to force myself to use my other moves and more movement. Even the CPU is murdering me now :v:

I like a lot of Josie's moves though. It's neat how many of her strings are combinations of other attacks, like her 1,2,4 being the same animation as a 1 and a 2,4 etc. instead of being a completely new set of animations. I'm gonna need to mash that start button before and after matches though, because wow the crybaby anime trope stuff is so bad and her voice acting... yeah.

attackmole posted:

This game kinda shits out achievements at you tbh. I'm always surprised at how many pop up when I'm being a piece of poo poo grinding treasure mode. I feel like I'm doing nothing and then bam I get 5 achievements.

All the achievements are stuff like "hit the opponent 5 times!!" though, and there's really few of them. I got probably 90% of my achievements in Practice Mode. I think probably beating the special chapter might be the only thing that could be considered an "achievement" :v:

Weird Pumpkin
Oct 7, 2007

Arzachel posted:

You don't need to dash although it might help to get the timing right, I just do f1+2 *wait for their legs to pop into the air* d/f1,4,2 and it works even on the smaller characters.


Does that do more damage than just f3 4 f2,3,4 S! f2,3,4?

Here's a list I've made mostly from the TZ discord, still missing CH SWS launches and probably more:
d/f+2 or u/f+4:
f3 3,3 S! f2,3,4 - easy - 47/50 dmg
f1+2 4 f2,3,4 S! f2,3,4 - still easy - 57/60 dmg
f1+2 4 1,2,4~f CD1,3, WR3 - corner carry

f1+2:
d3+4 - easy - 39 dmg
d/f+1,4,2 - delay a bunch, can be confirmed into - 49 dmg
Rage Drive

b1+2:
f3 d3,4~f CD1,3 f2,3,4

CD2: (not yet tested)
f3 f3 f3 3,3 S! f2,3,4
f3 f1+2 f2,3,4 S! f2,3,4
f3 f3 f3 f2,3,4 S! 3,f3

u/f+3:
d3,4~f CD1 3,3 S! f2,3,4

Magic 4:
f+1+2 f2,3,4 S! f2,3,4 - 61 dmg

CH f3+4:
f2,3,4 S! f2,3,4 - easy - 60 dmg
f2,3,4 S! f3 1,2,4~f CD3 - very strict timing on CD3 - 69 dmg

WS2,1:
d3+4 - easy
cd3 - easy
d3,4~f CD1,3 S! (3,f3 or d/b4,2,3)

Low parry:
f3 4 f2,3,4 S! f2,3,4

Rage Drive: (not yet tested)
f1+2 CD3+4 f1+2 f2,3,4 S! f2,3,4
CD3+4 b1,1 S! f2,3,4 u/f+3+4

Wall:
f3,u/f+3+4 - picks up lower
2,4,SWS4 - better damage and oki


This is awesome, thank you! For some reason I could only get d/f1,4,2 to connect after the dash and when it whiffed it always looked like I was too far. Must've just been a timing thing!

I've been using the b4,3,4 ender at the wall, it requires a certain height but I thought it was max damage? Might be a good idea to add it even though it's situational


Oh yeah one other good note for any character is that you can generally combo the rage art in after the S! I don't know what the right balance between scaling and damage is though because I don't know they have a minimum scaling like in SF or something.

So for example you can hit any standard launcher into f3,4,f2,3,4 S! then rage art. I usually dash in then rage art but maybe it's the same problem I had with d/f1,2,4 and you don't need the dash?

Weird Pumpkin fucked around with this message at 11:40 on Jun 7, 2017

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Sushi Face
Oct 11, 2006

Tastes like funk
Loved Tekken 2 and 3 as a kid and picked this up to relive those games. Turns out Tekken 7 is loving awesome?

Not sure who to play yet but have a few characters I like. Kind of swinging towards Lili at the moment as although I'm not a huge fan of her she does have my last name so I feel a sense of strange loyalty.

Rochefort army.

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