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Now that the Islanders are in Brooklyn, maybe it's time for Suffolk county on Long Island to get a team, huh? Long Island could support a team! Totally! C'mon guys, hey, where are you going? THE RINK COULD GO IN CALVERTON GUYS COME BACK
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Jun 8, 2017 20:55
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hifi posted:was the "thunder bay-sudbury market" thing a joke? i thought one of the talking heads suggested it Thunder Bay to Sudbury is 600 miles. that is not a market.
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Jun 8, 2017 21:00
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hifi posted:was the "thunder bay-sudbury market" thing a joke? i thought one of the talking heads suggested it That was Nate Silver being Nate Silver.
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Jun 8, 2017 21:15
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Tank44 posted:Thunder Bay to Sudbury is 600 miles. that is not a market. Yeah, compare and contrast with the "Edmonton Calgary" market that's considerably less distance.
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Jun 8, 2017 22:57
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El Gallinero Gros posted:This is also true. I think he believes having too much French involvement alienates new fans or something. I was thinking more of the media and the players, but yeah
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Jun 8, 2017 23:26
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Troy Queef posted:is Bettman's hatred of Quebec strictly because they're tiny? they have a huge money guy in PKP, Winnipeg has shown that it can work in mid-sized Canadian markets, plus isn't there a poster here who has stories of how his family would get into proper fights because of the Habs-Nords rivalry? 1) it's a tiny market (I think Quebec itself is larger than Winnipeg, but the potential fanbase is smaller) 2) it straight up doesn't have the potential growth that a Seattle or a Las Vegas has 3) it is 100% francophone 4) it is unlikely to pull in large national or multinational company sponsor money and will always be rooted to the bottom of the midpack without significant owner expenditure 5) it's unlikely to help Bettman's legacy of growth for the NHL in any way and will be a tacit admission that at least one of the southern expansion strategy teams failed. Outside of Lindros - who has maintained the reason he didn't want to go was because he wanted to go to college/university and didn't think he could do that in a monolingual French city (he's lying, it's because his dad felt he could make more ad money in a city like Toronto or New York) - Quebec hasn't had a long history of driving players or coaches away, and strangely never had the Habs rule of Francophone coaches and captains. The NHLPA would infinitely prefer having a team like Quebec in the league because it will be super stable and will also have better turnover than teams like Arizona, Florida and Carolina for the first decade of it's existence which in turn will increase their slice of the pie. How it'll go after that first decade is strongly up for debate. Schlesische fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Jun 9, 2017 |
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Jun 9, 2017 00:32
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IMO the NHL should put a team in Mexico City.
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Jun 9, 2017 00:52
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Screw Mexico City. They should do what the CWHL did and just place a team in China right now.
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Jun 9, 2017 00:54
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Isn't the KHL in trouble, the NHL should just buy them out and make them a new division
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Isn't the KHL in trouble, the NHL should just buy them out and make them a new division 
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Rotten Cookies posted:Now that the Islanders are in Brooklyn, maybe it's time for Suffolk county on Long Island to get a team, huh? Long Island could support a team! Totally! C'mon guys, hey, where are you going? THE RINK COULD GO IN CALVERTON GUYS COME BACK Just buy a boat and root for the Whalers.
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A team in QC does little for growing the fanbase and TV contracts, but it'll still be a goldmine for gate revenues. To compensate for this, Mr. Quebecois billionaire sugar daddy is going to have to pay a higher expansion fee than the $500m that Vegas paid. Just like teams threatening to leave town if they don't get an arena, the league knows what people want and they'll make them pay for it.
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canada is never getting another team until the CAD isn't terrible anymore and thats not happening anytime soon/ever
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Vegas seems to be more interested in what restaurant will be moving into the team's practice facility in the suburbs than who is actually going to be on the team.fits posted:canada is never getting another team until the CAD isn't terrible anymore and thats not happening anytime soon/ever Canada is an export economy, so it'll always be a few notches below USD or else some hockey fans will be laid off.
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i wonder what GMs think when vegas picks their first RFA in the expansion draft. it's basically a free offer sheet
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Listened to an interview with Tim Leiwickie on Brock and Salk, one of the Seattle radio shows. Interesting stuff. He talks like a man who has already won, to a certain extent. He kept repeating a line about not criticizing other proposals, not getting into mud-slinging--easy to say when you think you have things locked up. Very adamant that they are pursuing NHL expansion in the immediate future, and that the rebuilt Key would not be just for entertainment. He talks a good game, but as Mike Tyson said, everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face. That said, if he can get City Council approval, and if they can get the 2019 NCAA Tournament games moved, shovels will be in the ground late 2018/early 2019, targeting NHL start date in 2021 or 2022. The OVG plan is less a renovation and more a total tear-down, roughly doubling the size of the arena and keeping only the historic roof so that the project can use federal historic tax credits. Leiwickie was also very clear about no public funds being used for the arena, and if that is not true people will reveal it soon enough to be sure. I am cautiously encouraged. The Key was not my first choice, but this plan sounds like it would result in a fantastic arena (albeit one without acceptable public transit for at least another 10 years after opening).
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Jun 9, 2017 14:42
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the monorail would at least be like, 25% acceptable if they would just loving accept ORCA cards already
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Feels Villeneuve posted:the monorail would at least be like, 25% acceptable if they would just loving accept ORCA cards already You'd think a Seattle NHL team's fanbase would hate ORCAs.
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all-Rush mixtape posted:You'd think a Seattle NHL team's fanbase would hate ORCAs. ORCA is the name of our transit card that works on 80% of transit options
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Tank44 posted:ORCA is the name of our transit card that works on 80% of transit options vancouvercanuckslogo.png
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all-Rush mixtape posted:You'd think a Seattle NHL team's fanbase would hate ORCAs. I got and enjoyed it.
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all-Rush mixtape posted:vancouvercanuckslogo.png not sure why they would hate the nearest NHL team seattle will ever have
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https://twitter.com/GoldenKnights/status/874697254791135232
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If Phaneuf not waiving means a Ceci trade then this could be his most useful moment as a Senator
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SinBin guy, reveal yourself you coward.
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yellowcar posted:SinBin guy, reveal yourself you coward. what did he do now?
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Duke Chin posted:what did he do now? Exist.
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Jamwad Hilder posted:I have a really hard time seeing a metro area less than 1 million people, even a Canadian one, being able to successfully support a team. Winnipeg has struggles and they're significantly larger than Halifax. whut El Gallinero Gros posted:That's because their arenas location sucks, Winnipeg is considered cold by Canadian standards, and their ownership is cheap. They were voted least attractive by a player's poll. The MTS centre is right down town and the Jets have the richest ownership in the league and the second richest ownership in pro sports. Winnipeg is about the smallest city that could support an NHL team. They have a similar population as Halifax+Saskatoon+Regina combined A Typical Goon fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Jun 14, 2017 |
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They have the smallest arena in the league and can't sell out. They lost a team once already.
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A Typical Goon posted:whut Rich ownership =/= ownership that's willing to spend. Every pro sports owner is rich.
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Jamwad Hilder posted:They have the smallest arena in the league and can't sell out. They lost a team once already. Who says they don't sell out? This has them at over 100% attendance... http://www.espn.com/nhl/attendance/_/sort/homePct
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Jamwad Hilder posted:They have the smallest arena in the league and can't sell out. They lost a team once already. Pretty sure being a couple hundred tickets short of a sell out isn't going to run the jets out of town
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Duck Rodgers posted:Pretty sure being a couple hundred tickets short of a sell out isn't going to run the jets out of town It's not a great trend, but yeah. The salary cap, an owner with actual money and a city that remembers not having a pro-sports team anyone else cares about is going to go a long way. Winnipeg is probably the absolute limit of where you can put a team though, and that's what's probably part of what's stopping Quebec City from getting a team (QC would be right on the border line with the Habs, the Francophone stuff and the Habs).
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Kevyn posted:Who says they don't sell out? This has them at over 100% attendance... http://www.espn.com/nhl/attendance/_/sort/homePct How is that even possible? 
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Spelling Mitsake posted:How is that even possible? Standing Room Only tickets
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Krime posted:Standing Room Only tickets Plus the NHL lists outdoor games as attendance so the 33k Winnipeg had for the Heritage Classic is factored in as well.
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I'm pretty sure the BellMTS Centre (gently caress Bell) doesn't have any standing room tickets, so it must be all from the Heritage Classic.
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Jamwad Hilder posted:They have the smallest arena in the league and can't sell out. They lost a team once already. Apperently sports teams consider 99% attendance to be a sellout so by that metric they've sold out every single game for the past 6 seasons They've also been between 10-20 in team revenue every year they've been in Winnipeg and have never had to accept revenue sharing from the league So yeah, you're pretty wrong here. Unless over half the league have financial struggles?
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