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Mu Zeta posted:I watched the first 4 episodes in one day and felt fine. The only people that have the adverse reactions are the ones that never watched prestige TV before. Yes, that must be it....  Really though, it's not like the show had me in tears unable to leave the house for days. Some shows I just find are hard or uncomfortable to watch if they're particularly grim or overly harsh to the characters. I watched The Walking Dead up to around season 5 until it basically became torture / misery porn. The Handmaid's Tale on the other hand is still interesting enough to justify watching it for me.
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The Walking Dead isn't prestige TV, what the gently caress?
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Is leftovers worth a go? I only watched one or two episodes when it premiered, and haven't really heard anything since.
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Mu Zeta posted:The Walking Dead isn't prestige TV, what the gently caress? It totally is if you're talking about prestige television as a genre -- like all genres, it's slippery to define, but I think it largely means "is on cable, or looks like it could be" -- rather than to mean "really really good" or "beloved by critics". So, by this logic, the new Twin Peaks, Homeland, Nurse Jackie and Tyrant all count as "prestige television" instead of just, say, just Homeland Season 1. (Honestly, the definition is both truer to how the term tends to used, in my experience at least, and it's way, way easier to define and apply.) Open Source Idiom fucked around with this message at 12:52 on Jun 5, 2017 |
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Jun 5, 2017 12:50
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Mu Zeta posted:I watched the first 4 episodes in one day and felt fine. The only people that have the adverse reactions are the ones that never watched prestige TV before. I could definitely see people having personal experiences that would make the series strike a nerve, and the overall high quality of the series means that things don't get written off as "just there for shock value," etc. For me that's less of an issue than the fact that the material is something with which I don't want to fill several hours of my day; it's gorgeous and well-written, and I appreciate the nuance they build into characters that could have been flatly-portrayed and no one would have really noticed, but it's definitely not "fun."
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Mu Zeta posted:The Walking Dead isn't prestige TV, what the gently caress? Re-watch the first season. I mean it turned into one of the worst soap-operas the world has ever seen but the foundation was definitely there.
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Jun 5, 2017 14:20
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STAC Goat posted:It's like 1/3rd real historical pirates, 1/3rd made up original pirates, and 1/3rd Treasure Island pirates. This is accurate, but it should be mentioned that it doesn't follow the historical pirates at all faithfully so you'll still be surprised even if you know how they really ended up.
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Jun 5, 2017 14:23
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Kingtheninja posted:Is leftovers worth a go? I only watched one or two episodes when it premiered, and haven't really heard anything since. YES. The first half of season 1 has some issues, but once Mimi Leder joins the crew (around 105-106) it becomes one of the best shows of the decade if not ever and doesn't let up until last night's all-time great finale. Watch it.
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Kingtheninja posted:Is leftovers worth a go? I only watched one or two episodes when it premiered, and haven't really heard anything since. I love it. It's kinda an extended exercise in heartbreak but it's fantastic if you're up for that.
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Mu Zeta posted:The Walking Dead isn't prestige TV, what the gently caress? Where in my post did I say it was? That wasn't even the point. Your "prestige TV" comment was ridiculous. I was only saying that I find some TV hard to watch but if it has a decent plot I'll probably stick with it.
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Zzulu posted:The last kingdom. Kind-of-decent show. The main character was unlikeable after a certain point. There's this scene in the show where he murders a helpless fat guy for beeing a thief while his wife cries for him to stop and then our protagonist basically gives the middle finger to the fat mans children. It's like the showrunners wanted to show that yeah. he's "a wild man" but they took it too far because he wasn't very likeable or interesting to begin with so you kind of just go "man, what a fuckin dick". S2 is better and makes our protagonist a bit more sympathetic too. Still, it's not a great show. Watch if you like swords and bows and vikings and dirty english peasants I keep meaning to read the source novels just because I'm curious if he's such a prissy shithead in them as well. MiddleOne posted:The guy being an emotional jackass who will self-sabotage his every success by being too Dane is part of the fun of the show. coyo7e fucked around with this message at 21:14 on Jun 5, 2017 |
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Jun 5, 2017 21:12
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sticklefifer posted:For all the Black Sails people, about how much of it involves fictional versions of real historical Golden Age pirates, and how much is its own independent story? And holy poo poo Billy Bones' arms!   a FUN show. Even though I loved Treasure Island as a kid, I was still mostly shocked by how Long John Silver had his origin in this show. Even though I knew who John Silver was, it still surprised me. I look forward to Billy Bones showing up at the Admiral Benbow Inn - cut to close, series is over..! coyo7e fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Jun 5, 2017 |
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^^^I'm mainly asking about the real pirate thing because I wanted to know if they even tried to base those characters in reality. I'll probably give it a try anyway now that it's ended, I was just wondering how much is fantasy.Kingtheninja posted:Is leftovers worth a go? I only watched one or two episodes when it premiered, and haven't really heard anything since.
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I don't really know a lot about pirate history, but I did some passing reading up after I watched Black Sails. My takeaway was that they did their best to make some historical stuff fit into their hodge podge story but it could only go so far given how much was fictionalized. But like Calico Jack and Anne Bonney seem kind of appropriately true-ish to their history and Nassau is loosely based on reality, but it ain't "historically accurate" by any measure (again, based off like one night of Wiki reading the show inspired me to do).
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coyo7e posted:I keep meaning to read the source novels just because I'm curious if he's such a prissy shithead in them as well. I haven't seen the second season to say if he's precisely the same kind of shithead, but yes.
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Jose Valasquez posted:Everyone who thinks she was lying are making good points.
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Wallet posted:I haven't seen the second season to say if he's precisely the same kind of shithead, but yes. Also they totally ruined the badass old Baron who had the shithead son.. Odda the elder? He becomes a belligerent drunk (basically as a stand in for Aethelred since Aethelred really grows a bunch second season.) and it's super depressing. because he was like, the only consistently likable and respectable character. 
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I've been trying to binge on Kimmy Schmidt now that the new season came out, but... I just can't. I liked 30 Rock quite a bit, so I dunno what it is really about this show, maybe the overacting or general sitcominess. Given the overwhelmingly positive reviews though, maybe it's the upbeat nature of it and me being a broken person. Oh well. 
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I gave it a couple of tries and it never really hooked me. I'm considering a third try but really its probably just not for me for whatever reason. I finished binging The Path. Its... ok. There's some interesting character stuff and I enjoy the ambiguity of things, but there's not anything super compelling about it. I think the show kind of falls into the trap that very few characters are truly sympathetic. I mean, most of them are. They're all clearly broken people who got her because of abuse as a child. So I feel for all of them. But then they all pretty consistently make bad choices that they can't really blame on anyone but themselves. So its a rough ride for me to ultimately care about the fate of "The Movement." It really does remind me in a lot of ways of Sons of Anarchy, but without the worst Sutter elements. Gotta pick up a new show. Thinking of trying Orphan Black but I might just pick up on Hap & Leonard S2, Better Call Saul S3, or pick back up with Nikita S3.
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Jun 6, 2017 22:21
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Orphan Black is fantastic, mostly because of Tatiana's performances.
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Red Oktober posted:Orphan Black is fantastic, mostly because of Tatiana's performances. Unpopular opinion: she's amazing at nearly every challenge the show throws at her, but she's about as convincing as hard-case street punk Sarah as you'd expect someone named Tatiana to be. She's never bad in the role, and often good, but I don't think the performance is as truthfully observed as others on the show. (Partly this comes down the writing's inability to work out how to swear properly, but there you go.)
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Been rebinging The Expanse with Mrs Jones and it's really holding up well on a second viewing. I'm particularly impressed at how much it's peppered with little hints and clues and throwaway moments/lines that don't seem particularly important at the time, but when you see them in the context of already being aware of the bigger picture they make a lot more sense. Possibly enjoying it more this go round and getting a lot more out of the story. Also started rewatching Terriers. Can't recommend this one enough for people who enjoy... well good TV in general I guess. Crime drama with a fair bit of cynical character based comedy, that alternates between being kind of uplifting and bleak and depressing. Reminds me a little of a grown-up Veronica Mars... if Veronica Mars was an alcoholic ex-cop obsessed with his ex-wife. Really solid show with a great cast. Only lasted a single season, but it's fairly self contained and ends on more of a "whelp, what next?" than an outright cliffhanger. mobby_6kl posted:I've been trying to binge on Kimmy Schmidt now that the new season came out, but... I just can't. I liked 30 Rock quite a bit, so I dunno what it is really about this show, maybe the overacting or general sitcominess. Given the overwhelmingly positive reviews though, maybe it's the upbeat nature of it and me being a broken person. Oh well.  I'll probably end up watching because my wife likes it. It tends to have one or two outstanding episodes a season and each episode will usually have a few funny moments, but for the most part it doesn't do anything beyond an average (maybe above average) generic sitcom. Certainly not in the same league as 30 Rock which I rewatched recently and still love the hell out of.Thinking about sitcoms has made me want to watch Happy Endings again. I have no idea how well that will hold up. Gravy Jones fucked around with this message at 09:53 on Jun 7, 2017 |
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Starting up on Bloodline... It starts out SO SLOW and there are no real characters that really make me care about the story, but now that I'm like 5 episodes in, it's picking up. I was told season 2 gets better.
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tetrapyloctomy posted:I could definitely see people having personal experiences that would make the series strike a nerve, and the overall high quality of the series means that things don't get written off as "just there for shock value," etc. For me that's less of an issue than the fact that the material is something with which I don't want to fill several hours of my day; it's gorgeous and well-written, and I appreciate the nuance they build into characters that could have been flatly-portrayed and no one would have really noticed, but it's definitely not "fun." Yeah this is what I was getting at, it's super-well filmed and acted and the material is mature and dark. Don't not binge it because it will cause you to curl up in the corner in a foetal position (although in some rare cases that is definitely a possible reaction), don't binge it because it will probably leave you feeling like you had a really lovely day by the end of it. The same happened to me when I binged the entire first season of League of Gentlemen - a superbly dark'n'orrible British Comedy from yester-decade that I would not recommend consuming in one go because of the weird mood it causes. Same concept is my friend on Requiem for a Dream: "It was a brilliant film and I'm really glad I watched it, but I don't ever want to see it or talk about it ever again."
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You exaggerating the effect of Handmaid's Tale is just gonna cause it to end up disappointing people, imo.
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Possibly. My first post was maybe a little hyperbolic but I think I corrected that well enough. But then again, some will agree, others still will feel I didn't go far enough, and still others will feel nothing at all. Everyone is different with how things cause them to react and I was posting mine.
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Cactus posted:The same happened to me when I binged the entire first season of League of Gentlemen - a superbly dark'n'orrible British Comedy from yester-decade that I would not recommend consuming in one go because of the weird mood it causes. The League of Gentleman is hilarious and yes, dark, but it doesn't cause weird moods. Maybe get some help.
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Lol, you mean to say you've never spent all day binging something that has a particular feel to it, and because you just spent hours in that world, the feeling persists for a while after watching? And in the case of the two examples discussed here, that feel is nothing more than a weird, not necessarily pleasant mood - and that means one should "get help." Yeah, ok, guy.
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Spermanent Record posted:The League of Gentleman is hilarious and yes, dark, but it doesn't cause weird moods. Maybe get some help. Different media affects different people differently. Some people get ecstatic from listening to Taylor Swift. Some people think it's garbage. This shouldn't really have to be explained to you.
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STAC Goat posted:Gotta pick up a new show. Thinking of trying Orphan Black but I might just pick up on Hap & Leonard S2, Better Call Saul S3, or pick back up with Nikita S3. Speaking of Orphan Black, I've been thinking about going back to that show, myself. I watched the first few episodes ages ago and thought it was good, but got distracted by another show and/or lost interest, and never watched it again. I've been thinking about watching The Americans S3 next, but this post reminding me of OB's existence has made me wonder about whether it'd be worth going back to it, first. So, does it keep getting better throughout the season? (And/or season two) Or does it kinda fizzle out, eventually? (I first started watching it prior to season two being fully released/aired here, and I haven't heard anything about the show since then - so I've genuinely got no clue about it)
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Orphan Black is an incredibly uneven show. It has great moments, generally good acting, and Tatiana Maslany is always fantastic. But it also manages to both drag its feet and try to do too much with its plot. I've stuck with it all the way, and am glad I did, but I'm also glad this next season is the definitive last one because they desperately need to wrap things up instead of constantly adding more layers to the conspiracy.
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OB definitely gets pretty good for a while, but by around season 3 I think I got tired of them discovering a new layer of conspiracy every other episode and eventually stopped watching it. Still, I'd give it a try if I were you, it's pretty fun.
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I'm not sure when I watched Orphan Black last, but I remember liking anything with the suburban mom or the psycho one.
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I think OB's first season was really, really good. I think the second season completely loses track of some of the characterisation, which blows: the cast basically forget that Helena murdered the poo poo out of two different sympathetic characters in the first season, it's very odd.. Third season pulls it back together by the end, and the fourth was great. Every season has a number of great episodes though, balanced out by a couple of annoying plate spinning plots. If I have to watch that one clone nearly die from her mega!cancer, before finding another temporary cure again, I'm going to start skipping those scenes indiscriminately.
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Norse Code posted:Starting up on Bloodline... It starts out SO SLOW and there are no real characters that really make me care about the story, but now that I'm like 5 episodes in, it's picking up. I was told season 2 gets better. You can't judge Bloodline until you finish the first season. It's fantastic but you won't feel that way after the first few episodes.
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Cactus posted:Lol, you mean to say you've never spent all day binging something that has a particular feel to it, and because you just spent hours in that world, the feeling persists for a while after watching? And in the case of the two examples discussed here, that feel is nothing more than a weird, not necessarily pleasant mood - and that means one should "get help." Binge A Thousand Litres of Tears. I dare you...
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Regarding Bloodline, I loved the first and was less impressed with the second season though I still enjoyed the story. Season 3, however..... ehhhhhhhh. Only made it through the first couple of episodes and didn't care much for them. And after reading some bad reviews of S3 here and elsewhere I don't think i'm gonna invest in finishing. The ending sounds especially weak. The cast is fantastic though, and it introduced me to Ben Mendelsohn who is just awesome. Gonna power through Legion now and then Dirk Gently.
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The douchebaggy brother was the best part of Bloodline. I tried season 2 and think I even watched all of it, but it wasn't worth remembering I guess because I don't remember anything. I started watching The 100, it has 4 seasons now, so I assume it gets more interesting than scifi lord of the flies, sometime during the first season..? coyo7e fucked around with this message at 03:56 on Jun 15, 2017 |
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coyo7e posted:The douchebaggy brother was the best part of Bloodline. I tried season 2 and think I even watched all of it, but it wasn't worth remembering I guess because I don't remember anything. Which douchebaggy brother? There's more than one.....  As for The 100... Yes. The first 3 episodes are CW TEEN DRAMA then it goes bonkers. There is a reason that those of us in The 100 thread refer to Clarke as Genghis Clarke   Keep your eye on Raven, the actress is really goddamn good and does not disappoint. Also if anyone wants REALLY loving GOOD Sci-Fi, check out 12 Monkeys as it is the best show that no one watches. I will fight all that disagree isaboo fucked around with this message at 04:12 on Jun 15, 2017 |
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The skinny druggie one from the first season. I don't think he made it to the second season right?
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