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Said the character who has literally no idea what's going on in the rest of the world. I'm sure he'll change his tune once he understands what's up. Though I wouldn't be opposed to Eren's whole story being the most elaborate Villain's Origin Story ever made. DaveKap fucked around with this message at 05:10 on Jun 10, 2017 |
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Jun 10, 2017 04:11
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That's the Marleyan spirit we need to see, warrior.
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Jun 10, 2017 05:58
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Kitiara posted:My theory is that there is no genetic difference between Marleyans and Eldians and both can titan-shift just fine. The whole thing about Eldians being titan monsters is just propaganda from Marley. In reality they just use the Eldians as titan cannon fodder because they can. Kreuger is our most reliable source of Titan science and he said only Eldians can become titan. Can't see why they wouldn't just eradicate the Eldians if anyone could become titans.
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Jun 10, 2017 07:17
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Conspiratiorist posted:I'd like to point out that the attributes of the 'Jaw' titan appear to be: I can't wait for the chapter that explains bloodlines, it's the new biggest mystery since the Basement reveal. And if only non-Eldians are immune to the mind-wipe effects, doesn't that mean Marleyans (or some other faction) joined the king when they formed the walls? Can Eren please tap into the first king's memories already and answer these questions??
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Jun 10, 2017 07:27
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Wow I didn't expect the timeskip to be this long. I can't wait for it to get back to the island now to see the changes
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Jun 10, 2017 09:37
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Seeing this bloodline chatter makes me feel way better about the post I made a little while ago about my confusion over how taking on titan forms actually worked... mainly because this means I didn't misunderstand too much of the complexities of the plot, considering I've been reading in spurts over the past couple years and can't keep all of the info together. I still have no idea what storylines took place in some of the "arcs" you guys talk about.Nina posted:Wow I didn't expect the timeskip to be this long. I can't wait for it to get back to the island now to see the changes Thinking on it even further, Marley knows about the equipment the Paradisi (is that what we're calling them?) developed in order to kill titans, so when you consider the idea that they could provide those titans to the Eldian holdouts that Marley is currently fighting (I'm getting that right, right? That circular city/base were Eldians?) then that's a fun time for Marley to get scared of. DaveKap fucked around with this message at 09:48 on Jun 10, 2017 |
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Jun 10, 2017 09:43
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DaveKap posted:I'm getting that right, right? That circular city/base were Eldians? No, it was a military base belonging to a union of countries in the Not Middle East (while Marley controls Not Europe and Not Africa). The Eldians have already been defeated and all live in ghettos inside Marley (or possibly even just the one ghetto Grisha and all the shifters are from). The geopolitical situation seems to be that Marley is still the dominant world power but every other country hates them (presumably because they've been on a conquering spree). They're in an increasingly difficult position since they rely on the titans more than everyone else and modern artillery > titans. This will be even worse the moment war planes become a thing.
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Jun 10, 2017 10:09
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I feel like the rest of the world would still hate marley either way considering their primary source of military power is giant cannibals that eat people alive
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Jun 10, 2017 11:00
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Eren as the villain is especially interesting because of his internal monologue about possibly eating Historia and taking full control of the coordinate.
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Jun 10, 2017 13:15
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Eren/Armin becoming the villains and Reiner/Zeke becoming the series protagonists would be hilarious.
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Jun 10, 2017 13:36
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Far fetched, but what if Reiners dad was the Eldian double agent? His dad not really Marlian, but a traitor the entire time? (Which neatly resolves the half blood question)
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Jun 10, 2017 17:06
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I'm too lazy to do the math and re-read. Did the Marleyans have the titular attack titan at the time of Reinhardt's childhood flashback or was it missing then?
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Jun 10, 2017 17:19
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if you mean reiner then no, the owl had already passed the attack titan on to grisha by then. that happened before grisha had even met eren's mother, so there's no point in which reiner can be around and marley can have the attack titan at the same time
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Jun 10, 2017 17:36
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comedyblissoption posted:I'm too lazy to do the math and re-read. Did the Marleyans have the titular attack titan at the time of Reinhardt's childhood flashback or was it missing then? By all indications, Marley never managed to seize the Attack Titan during whatever insurrection that led to the formation of their modern state, as no mention is ever made of them losing it at any point. Now, as to whether they thought it had fled to Paradis with King Fritz or they knew it was still loose in the mainland, we don't know.
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Jun 10, 2017 17:54
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Can someone take the panel of Eren saying "I hope something interesting happens today" and then put it right next to or above his mom being eaten and/or wall shattering?
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Jun 10, 2017 18:08
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I'm guessing that needing to be of Eldian descent at all is the only requirement for Titanification, and the Bloodline thing is that specific families work better with specific titan types so if you're descended from that family you get a cooler version of that Titan. However all Titans end up getting a little of the human that goes into them in their appearance, hence why you can map titan faces to human faces. Also probably taking different Titan juices gives you the different Titan powers, again with certain Bloodlines being better for different juices. Eren could probably get all the juices and have the most messed up titan ever because it'd have variously useful versions of every Titan power, which would admittedly have been a hilarious storyline. Eren vs the Titan Masters for their Titan Powers
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Jun 10, 2017 18:23
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Well, the end game is eating Zeke to gain control of the Coordinate. Or the other way around.
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Jun 10, 2017 20:43
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Oh yeah, Zeke has Fritz blood right Cannibalistic patricide and fratricide drat
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Jun 10, 2017 21:24
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Alternatively, I saw a theory that the reason Eren has cut off his leg and blended in with the traumatized soldiers is that it is likely the hospital where they're going is actually a facility that will give them a dose of Zeke's spinal fluid in preparation for titanization. After all, they can't fight for Marley anymore because they're all crippled, emotionally or physically, and it's mentioned that they have no relatives who would miss them, so they're prime candidates for titanization. If Eren found this out, either through spying or from Armin who has inherited Bertolt's memories, then maybe he hopes he can get injected with Zeke's spinal fluid and gain full access to the Coordinate without having to eat Zeke.
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Jun 10, 2017 21:27
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In It For The Tank posted:Alternatively, I saw a theory that the reason Eren has cut off his leg and blended in with the traumatized soldiers is that it is likely the hospital where they're going is actually a facility that will give them a dose of Zeke's spinal fluid in preparation for titanization. After all, they can't fight for Marley anymore because they're all crippled, emotionally or physically, and it's mentioned that they have no relatives who would miss them, so they're prime candidates for titanization. Yeah, those veterans are 100% becoming titans. I'm not sold on your theory, mostly because I don't know (and Eren likely doesn't know) if being injected with his brother's serum would actually give him those abilities. Schwarzwald fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Jun 10, 2017 |
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Jun 10, 2017 21:29
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HoneyBoy posted:Oh yeah, Zeke has Fritz blood right Eren intentionally devouring his last blood relative seems the most spot on for this series dramatic irony, especially now that reiner seems to be adding to the whole family/bloodlines theme. I wonder if his dad is a factor in him not getting canned post-paradise failure.
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Jun 10, 2017 23:40
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if we're going to continue the parallel, maybe eren will offer to save reiner's niece by bringing her to paradis to that kid that wanted to save her
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Jun 10, 2017 23:48
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My boy Eren will kill all those bastards that live on the other side of the sea.
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Jun 10, 2017 23:55
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Lamebot posted:My boy Eren will get captured by all those bastards that live on the other side of the sea and Mikasa will kill all those bastards that live on the other side of the sea.
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Jun 11, 2017 00:25
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Balthesar posted:Eren as the villain is especially interesting because of his internal monologue about possibly eating Historia and taking full control of the coordinate. That was a misprint Isayama actually apologized about. He just has to touch a titanized Fritz, not consume. I do love that the first thing that apparently comes to Reiner's mind, living on Paradis with the enemy, is Sasha's infamous potato moment  And that he had to cover his mouth to hide his smile before he started talking ...And that he spins it into a tale fitting the supposed wickedness of those demon eldians in need of extermination, lest they invade with their potato-stealing ways and starve out the Great Empire of Marley.And maybe it's always been this way, or since he/his aids have gotten better at art, but this chapter really made me take notice of the excellent use of communication through facial expressions. Frickin'.... reminds me of Jojo, or something, man. Reiner's forlorn expression before his tortured expression while concluding that his days spent with his comrades--fellow soldiers--were truly hellish, albeit for a reason the rest of the group may not realize.... I think spending enough time over island-side with his atrocities for him to dissociate into his Soldier personality did a lot to undo the brainwashing most of y'all seem to think this chapter has Reiner as Confirmed 4 Lyfe. Reiner's mom's look also reminded me of Grisha's parents' when they learned that he hosed up and got his sister killed. That horrified "what are you saying/what did you do" look, before she starts her spiel to Gabi and then meaningfully looks at Reiner. Also, him being "abandoned" if my translation is right, makes me think that was another Rod Reiss thing scenario--like, he could have legitimized them, or at least Reiner, but chose not to. Wonder when it's gonna be his "it'd be better if I'd never been born" turn. 
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Jun 11, 2017 01:46
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Schwarzwald posted:Yeah, those veterans are 100% becoming titans. Seems plausible. Makes me wonder why Marley bothers dumping criminal Eldians on Paradis when they could be weaponizing them instead.
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Jun 11, 2017 05:05
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I think until recently Marley's supremacy was uncontested, so there was no need for it. It was only following the loss of two shifters (Annie and Bertolt) that the Middle East Union was emboldened enough to challenge Marley.
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Jun 11, 2017 05:22
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Releasing masses of mindless titans outside of Paradis would've been a pain for them to deal with too. Until they discovered Zeke has coordinate-lite. They probably stopped wasting criminal Eldians after that.
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Jun 11, 2017 05:52
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Mountaineer posted:Seems plausible. Makes me wonder why Marley bothers dumping criminal Eldians on Paradis when they could be weaponizing them instead. Owl explained it was done on purpose to terrorize the Walldians, as having a sizable population of wild titans outside their walls would further confine the people inside them. He also admits it actually got out of hand, and now it was an obstacle towards exploiting the island's natural resources and infiltrating the Walls. Politicians have no foresight  But as previously mentioned, this was before Zeke C&C abilities were discovered.
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Jun 11, 2017 06:30
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E-flat posted:That was a misprint Isayama actually apologized about. He just has to touch a titanized Fritz, not consume.
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Jun 11, 2017 10:47
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Lord_Magmar posted:Also probably taking different Titan juices gives you the different Titan powers, again with certain Bloodlines being better for different juices. Eren could probably get all the juices and have the most messed up titan ever because it'd have variously useful versions of every Titan power, which would admittedly have been a hilarious storyline. Eren vs the Titan Masters for their Titan Powers The manga was secretly a megaman game this whole time.
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Jun 11, 2017 17:34
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"I apologize for making Eren’s ideas suddenly sound insane and therefore confusing the readers.”
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Jun 11, 2017 17:45
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Lord_Magmar posted:I'm guessing that needing to be of Eldian descent at all is the only requirement for Titanification, and the Bloodline thing is that specific families work better with specific titan types so if you're descended from that family you get a cooler version of that Titan. However all Titans end up getting a little of the human that goes into them in their appearance, hence why you can map titan faces to human faces. I still think this is where the story is going, as Eren eventually collects all the other titan powers and puts the progenitor one back together again.
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Jun 11, 2017 17:47
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If Eren eats the Beast Titan do you think he'll get to choose which form he transforms into or will he become a hybrid of the attack and beast titans?
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Jun 11, 2017 17:59
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Balthesar posted:If Eren eats the Beast Titan do you think he'll get to choose which form he transforms into or will he become a hybrid of the attack and beast titans? we already know the answer to that since eren has the attack and coordinator. he'd be a hybrid of the three
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Jun 11, 2017 18:05
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In chapter 89, Eren Kruger mentions Mikasa and Armin but doesn't seem to know where the memories are coming from. Either Eren Jaeger is misremembering that part or the memories can go back in time. If the latter is the case, then possibly the reason that the royal family members with the Founding titan have the memories of the past and the future. Kruger did say that these "paths of light" carry memories and they all pass through the Founding titan. The memories are possibly divorced from time.
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Jun 11, 2017 18:37
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theCalamity posted:In chapter 89, Eren Kruger mentions Mikasa and Armin but doesn't seem to know where the memories are coming from. Either Eren Jaeger is misremembering that part or the memories can go back in time. If the latter is the case, then possibly the reason that the royal family members with the Founding titan have the memories of the past and the future. Kruger did say that these "paths of light" carry memories and they all pass through the Founding titan. The memories are possibly divorced from time. Reminder that the series opens with a prophetic dream.
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Jun 11, 2017 19:11
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to you 2000 years from now
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HoneyBoy posted:to you 2000 years from now Twist ending: it was Gilead all along!
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