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Other notes, TMM and TNL reads as a long as townie slap fight and maybe they should just kiss???
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*flicks hair out of face* when you've been playing this game for... *checks calendar* eights years I guess you can just instantly see these things *motorcycle, sunset*
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Jun 10, 2017 15:14
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Sandwolf posted:*flicks hair out of face* Hmmmm strong argument, let's see how it plays out.
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Jun 10, 2017 15:16
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Raeg posted:Hmmmm strong argument, let's see how it plays out. Ahahah, yes, let's.
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Jun 10, 2017 15:17
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Well it looks like I missed quite a bit of drama while I was zonked out. For MOTM I ended up changing my mind at the last second and voting Dr. Hurt. Sorry. It seems like a pretty easy lynch on Added Space but I want to discuss the Inf thing. Mostly the fact that I am not super familiar with rules but I don't remember being forbidden from posting anything but role PMs. On the other hand it would sorta make up for the D1 no lynch and Inf could be SK so... I am leaning toward kill but it's kind of an assy thing to do it on the back of what seems like an incorrect mod decision.
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Jun 10, 2017 15:44
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Updated MOTM Claimed N1 Votes: Added Space - TMM Chaos - TMM Circle - Dr. Hurt Dr. Hurt - Circl? -- Again, based on night talk, not confirmed after the day opened Ernie - Gulag Gulag - Chaos Hal - ?? Kasu - TMM Inf - Nobody Raeg - Gulag Sandwolf - Gulag TNL - ?? Tired - TMM TMM - Chaos Dead People: Juramaan - ??? Mr F - ???
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Jun 10, 2017 15:51
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Also, The standard rules apply to this game. And from that is this: quote:Talking Out Of Thread (OOT)
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Jun 10, 2017 15:54
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I don't know that I've ever been in a game, personally, where posting chat logs from mason stuff was OK. Busb one time ran a mafia like Civ game and someone posted a fake faction chat screenshot and boy howdy did that cause a big ol mess, if I remember right. I know anyone can fake a copy/pasted PM with a timestamp but a inspect element edit means anyone more or less can fake a screenshot of one too, and I dont think any of us would be very happy if someone posted a screenshot. Having a layer of deniability there is important for the game to keep things even imo. But I also have never modded a game. Of course I also think taste gambited once upon a time by posting a fake role PM so  mafia crazy sometimes
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Jun 10, 2017 16:53
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It's possible inf is just vanilla town mason and scum killed jam to set him up (Jams flip is first after all; I know there is no hard and fast rule about flip order but I feel like it's typically posted Scum -> Others), but I think Inf would be the kind of person who would replace in as a SK Mason and go "Well hell lets just claim to my masonbro and see where this goes." More importantly, I think leaving Inf alive when we have him available as a free lynch is a bad move. Whatever his alignment, we are going to be talking about him as long as he is alive and I think his future lynch is basically inevitable. Clearing the room of distractions now is the best play. ##killinfi2017 ##vote added space Space I hope you play in future games!
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Jun 10, 2017 16:54
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TMMadman posted:Updated MOTM Claimed N1 Votes: Hal, TNL, can you answer about your MotM votes?
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Jun 10, 2017 16:55
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##saveinficrew no particular reason, I just like Infi's posting and I find it doubtful that he's actually sk
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Jun 10, 2017 17:05
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All I will say is that I didn't post the PMs originally, and even stated that I wouldn't. Then Added Space came out and posted them. So I clarified them by making them legible, and added the missing PMs. That Added Space gets a free pass and I don't is something I don't personally agree with, but it is what it is and I believe scum will take advantage of abusing the situation. If I do end up getting free lynched please take a good hard look at the people voting killinfi2017 and their reasoning behind it; that will turn up some suspicious behaviour I'm sure of it. I'm Vanilla Town and while it isn't a great loss if I get dunked, I'll at least be glad that known scum Added Space + Sandwolf will be lynched afterwards. chaoslord posted:More importantly, I think leaving Inf alive when we have him available as a free lynch is a bad move. Bad post. chaoslord posted:Whatever his alignment, we are going to be talking about him as long as he is alive and I think his future lynch is basically inevitable. Heaven forbid I can't be cleared via tracking, etc. Bad post with bad reasoning all around clord.
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Jun 10, 2017 17:25
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##saveinficrew 
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Jun 10, 2017 17:25
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Infinitum posted:That Added Space gets a free pass and I don't is something I don't personally agree with, but it is what it is and I believe scum will take advantage of abusing the situation. Well Added Space is almost certainly getting lynched anyway. But yeah I'm still on the fence on the save/kill thing. =/
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Jun 10, 2017 17:36
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Infinitum posted:Bad post. I have never claimed to be good at mafia Cop dead, no guarantee of tracker. I stand by what I said. If others disagree, fine, but I think we will be arguing "Is inf the SK or not?????" until you die more likely than not. We have the chance to rid the game of the claimed SK and claimed scum in one swoop. I'm gonna take it.
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Jun 10, 2017 17:39
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only stupid people would think infi is the sk
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Jun 10, 2017 17:44
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Tired Moritz posted:only stupid people would think infi is the sk oh nooooo 
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Jun 10, 2017 17:45
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chaoslord posted:I have never claimed to be good at mafia Actually I have claimed Vanilla Town and explained that it was a comedic PM that actually somehow worked as a gambit; which has now outted Added Space, and probably Sandwolf as well, as scumbro. Do you think I would, as an experienced mafia player, openly claim SK to my mason partner in my first post to them? IF, for sake of the argument, I was the SK do you think I would keep my mason partner alive to spill the beans if they were town? Added Space admits to being scum via PM and was hoping I'd kill him last to secure a moral victory
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Jun 10, 2017 18:00
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Again these are the PMs after D2 has already started *D2 starts Jamuraan is revealed dead* Infinitum posted:Jamuraan is dead Added Space posted:Nice work. So he had the opportunity to post in thread once the day has started, if he was town, to reveal that I was the SK Instead he chooses to send a reply PM when the thread has been reopened and continues to maintain he is part of the scum team I'm sorry, but that's an open-shut slam dunk case right there. Sandwolf suggest I'm the SK out of nowhere incriminates him as well.
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Jun 10, 2017 18:06
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 Good morning! Good morning! Here are the situations that I see potentially happening, this is primarily so I can set the facts straight myself and figure out my feelings cuz chugging 200+ posts when waking up is a groovy experience: 1. Infini is a big fat liar pants, actually is VT and not SK > Space is a big fat liar pants is actually town 2. Infini is a big fat liar pants, actually is VT and not SK > Space was a ding dong and told the truth and is Scum 3. Infini is a "truthteller" and is a SK > Space is a big fat liar pants is actually town (honestly the least possible option) 4. Infini is a "truthteller" and is a SK > Space was a ding dong and told the truth and is Scum Now that all that dumbness is out of the way- The way space was acting when they were caught (throwing a vote on themselves, sulking) reads like a scum that has been caught in the act being a dummy before their team can console them to at least try to fight it out. That being said, if 2 or 4 is true, then Infini is trying to make a strong connection to Sandwolf as the potential teammate because they called out Inf as a SK earlier. One thing i can't really shake is that in this post Infinitum posted:Actually I have claimed Vanilla Town and explained that it was a comedic PM that actually somehow worked as a gambit; which has now outted Added Space, and probably Sandwolf as well, as scumbro. Inf doesn't even seem to want to consider the possibility that Space could have also been lying? Both of you are leaning on the "oh I was just joking" and in this scenario building arguments around it just kind of end up making both of you look bad to me. ##vote Added Space Either way ##killinfini2017 I'm not gonna trust them for the rest of the game. Could be a cool dude gambit, but literally until the end there will be a cloud of suspicion like "oh hey it's the potential serial killer."  Also if I never have to read another whiny baby slapfight between TMM and Moritz I will die happy.
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Jun 10, 2017 18:11
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Infinitum posted:Do you think I would, as an experienced mafia player, openly claim SK to my mason partner in my first post to them? Honestly? Yes,. Because you can use the logic you're using right now to get away from it and you know you could do that and be persuasive. It's a crazy high risk gambit but you're one of the few people I'd think would actually try it I love seeing gambits so me wanting this to be a big one may be clouding my view but I mean if others disagree with me you'll live. KillInf: Sandwolf, raeg, me Saveinf: ernie, tired, possibly inf? I recognize I'm in company with very possibly scum sandwolf, which is not a great look, so honestly I think you'll be ok if more people show up. Actually, ##unvote to make sure people have a chance to weigh in about inf. AS is definitely gonna be the vote today but I still want to know Hal/TNL's motm votes and want more folks to vote about inf
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Jun 10, 2017 18:15
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I'm not going to be particularly miffed if I end up being freelynchable Just please please please remember that when Added Space flips scum, that Sandwolf is 100% scum as well for insinuating I'm an SK out of nowhere (Because they talked about it in scumdoc)
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Jun 10, 2017 18:16
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Should have hit preview. Add Hurt to the killinf list. KillInf: Sandwolf, raeg, chao, hurt Saveinf: ernie, tired, possibly inf?
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Jun 10, 2017 18:16
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Also TMM since you wanted to know, I totally did vote for Circl for MOTM
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Jun 10, 2017 18:18
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Dr. Hurt posted:Also if I never have to read another whiny baby slapfight between TMM and Moritz I will die happy. ???wtf??? What argument are you talking about? The boon discussion?
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Jun 10, 2017 18:20
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CLord what are your thoughts on the D2 PM's that I've reposted above?
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Jun 10, 2017 18:20
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Tired Moritz posted:???wtf??? What argument are you talking about? The boon discussion? Basically every post you and TMM have had until this actually interesting thing happened. My eyes rolled so hard back into my head that they were trying to escape through my ears.
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Jun 10, 2017 18:25
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but we barely even talked to each other. you're weird.
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Jun 10, 2017 18:28
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Tired Moritz posted:but we barely even talked to each other. I owe Moritz an apology. I read the thread right after waking up and substituted the Ninth Layer for him when I was reading along. Moritz, you are not as much a moron as I thought you were. That was how inane and boring the conversation was. Shame on you, The Ninth Layer, for making me think you were Moritz this whole time.
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Jun 10, 2017 18:30
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Infinitum posted:CLord what are your thoughts on the D2 PM's that I've reposted above? I agree they paint it that AS is likely scum because, as you say, he chooses to reply rather that come to the thread. However, if he's scum, he knows whether or not they killed Jam. If scum did , I don't think he would have come back to you saying "nice work" letting you take credit there. Since he had already scum claimed to you, I don't see why he would have hesitated to call you out on it if he thought you had misled him. If AS is scum, Jam was the SK kill. That means, to me, either AS isn't actually scum (unlikely), you're the SK (my thought), or you're just super duper unlucky that the SK also happened to pick Jam.
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Jun 10, 2017 18:33
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God this just makes less and less sense every time I come back to the thread ##killinfi2017 I had no idea that posting non-mod communication was against the rules, so that's a mistake I can see anybody making. But directly PMing another player is just blatantly against the rules, no? Am I missing something obvious? Regardless, happy to see Inf get lynched here as I've explained already. I would like to see the Inf flip before deciding on AS.
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Jun 10, 2017 19:07
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Kasumeat posted:But directly PMing another player is just blatantly against the rules, no? Am I missing something obvious? I explicitly said I was a mason in my gambit reveal post Masons are allowed to communicate outside of the thread. Normally it's done via Googledocs, but we kicked it oldskool via PMs. So it's pretty lovely you're voting me for that reason. quote:I would like to see the Inf flip before deciding on AS. Fuckin  even if I am freelynched, I wouldn't get flipped until end of day anyway.
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Jun 10, 2017 19:14
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As I said look at the killinf voters and their reasoning, and you'll start seeing some suspect behaviour.
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Jun 10, 2017 19:14
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Infinitum posted:I'm Vanilla Town
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Jun 10, 2017 19:23
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I'm not voting you for that, I explained last night why I'm voting you.Infinitum posted:(When in fact I'm just a plain old Vanilla Town Mason) TBF you also posted this. Though "Vanilla Town" is a very strange way to describe a Mason.
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Jun 10, 2017 19:25
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Infinitum posted:Fuckin Wasn't aware of that. ##vote AS L-1
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Jun 10, 2017 19:26
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don't loving rush it, jesus. I'm sure there's some people that haven't even post today.
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Jun 10, 2017 19:27
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Nah hammer. EA E3 Conference is about to start.
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Jun 10, 2017 19:30
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the fact that there are people that thinks that infi is sk, meaning that they, as a sk decided to out themselves in day 2 for a scum is loving nuts
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I want to see what the second replacement (Ixt) has to say.
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