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Conspiratiorist posted:Reminder that the series opens with a prophetic dream. The weird part is that it was before Eren had the Founding titan.
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Story ends with Eren being eaten by someone else and passing on all the powers and memories. The whole story prior was actually this new shifter processing all the new memories, and them getting mixed up when it's a memory of Eren remembering someone else.
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Jun 11, 2017 21:49
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Gruckles posted:Story ends with Eren being eaten by someone else and passing on all the powers and memories. The whole story prior was actually this new shifter processing all the new memories, and them getting mixed up when it's a memory of Eren remembering someone else. I would actually be more fine with this then them "butterfly effecting" the story
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Jun 11, 2017 23:01
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So are the wall titans or some other mechanism being MAD just bullshit because the Marleyans were willing to attack in the first place? Or were they still a real risk of attacking Paradisia and the Marleyans didn't care, and the Marleyans got lucky because Eren's dad stole the Reiss' titan.
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comedyblissoption posted:So are the wall titans or some other mechanism being MAD just bullshit because the Marleyans were willing to attack in the first place? I think they were hoping to have the King expose himself in some manner. The fact that there wasn't a reprisal actually set their plan back for four or so years, while Annie, Bert and Ernie aged up enough to infiltrate the militia.
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Gruckles posted:Story ends with Eren being eaten by someone else and passing on all the powers and memories. The whole story prior was actually this new shifter processing all the new memories, and them getting mixed up when it's a memory of Eren remembering someone else. I think it's pretty plausible that the entire series is someone's flashback.
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Jun 12, 2017 04:38
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Alternatively, it's a loop and Eren is trying to break out of the loop by sending himself his memories. Also Christa is the 1st Ymir, she also goes back with Eren and makes the Titan contract but calls herself Ymir in remembrance of her girlfriend, which leads to Ymir being named Ymir down the line.
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Say Nothing posted:I think it's pretty plausible that the entire series is someone's flashback. https://vine.co/v/OYa9LaTnglg "crazy right, but let me show you where this all began 2000 years ago"
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Jun 12, 2017 11:34
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Was Frieda regularly visiting Eren based on seeing Eren's future memories?
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comedyblissoption posted:Was Frieda regularly visiting Eren based on seeing Eren's future memories? Who? What? She regularly met with Historia, not Eren.
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Jun 12, 2017 23:57
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reasons to believe frieda may have visited eren:
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He was crying from a dream where an older Mikasa was telling him good bye (changed in the anime to various things but mostly including bloodshed and everyone getting eaten by titans including his mother). Also Mikasa was around and she's immune to the Founder Titan's mindwipe powers.
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Jun 13, 2017 00:11
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comedyblissoption posted:reasons to believe frieda may have visited eren: This is both incredibly far fetched and bafflingly plausible. I feel like I should leave a message here for when people dig this post up two or three years from now.
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Conspiratiorist posted:He was crying from a dream where an older Mikasa was telling him good bye (changed in the anime to various things but mostly including bloodshed and everyone getting eaten by titans including his mother).
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Conspiratiorist posted:He was crying from a dream where an older Mikasa was telling him good bye (changed in the anime to various things but mostly including bloodshed and everyone getting eaten by titans including his mother). For all we know there's some kinda 'titan gene' that all Eldians carry, and some of revealed information about the powers of titans makes me wonder if all Eldians are connected from birth to some kind of 'titan network' that links them together in a very literal way. Maybe it can only be accessed in a limited way by shifters, and the coordinate having root access. With all the visions of memories past and future, and the fact that Eren had his before he became a shifter, it makes me wonder if that connection exists in all Eldians. If that's true, then Eren's 'memories' in the first chapter could be memory contamination from his eventual interaction with the coordinate, but could also play into some strange quirk about how the coordinate actually works as it relates to all Eldians. For instance, what if the "Will of the First King" or whatever it's called isn't the disembodied consciousness of the first King, but instead simply the collective will of the people of Paradise who have completely accepted the myths of the Wall and are projecting that back into the 'titan network'. That opens some very interesting narrative strains to explore WRT the coordinate and the states who want to use it for their own ends, a kind of metaphor for propaganda.
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it's nanomachines all the way down
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Also if the story involves actual time travel fuckery, it's possible that eren is both an ancestor and descendant of the attack titan for the owl eldian spy guy.
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comedyblissoption posted:Also if the story involves actual time travel fuckery, it's possible that eren is both an ancestor and descendant of the attack titan for the owl eldian spy guy. Or he IS the Owl.
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Eren is the first king
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Eldians are basically trees joined together by invisible roots, hence all the "paths" and gestalt memories business.
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It's been so long that I completely forgot but where did Eren get the Coordinate power? Is it part of the Attack Titan suite or did he eat another shifter besides his father? Did his father already hold both? Also, if it's possible for a person to have more than one titan power wouldn't it quickly devolve into a "there can be only one" situation?
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MeLKoR posted:Did his father already hold both? It's this. Grisha ate Frieda (who had that titan power), then he let Eren eat him.
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MeLKoR posted:It's been so long that I completely forgot but where did Eren get the Coordinate power? Is it part of the Attack Titan suite or did he eat another shifter besides his father? Did his father already hold both? His father ate Frieda Reiss who was in possession of the Progenitor Titan, and thus the Coordinate, at the time, and when Eren ate him he inherited both it and the Attack Titan. At this point it is unknown if there is any limit to how many titans' powers one person can hold at once.
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Aumanor posted:At this point it is unknown if there is any limit to how many titans' powers one person can hold at once. Before anyone scoffs at this, keep in mind that the titans are quite light for their size.
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MeLKoR posted:It's been so long that I completely forgot but where did Eren get the Coordinate power? Is it part of the Attack Titan suite or did he eat another shifter besides his father? Did his father already hold both? Maybe the power splits again when the shifter dies.
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My guess is if Eren dies naturally the two powers will go to different babies, but eating him will stack the powers on the consumer.
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Sub Harrison posted:My guess is if Eren dies naturally the two powers will go to different babies, but eating him will stack the powers on the consumer. yea that's how I figure it as well. titans have been around long enough that grisha must surely not be the first person to have two of the titan powers at once
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Manatee Cannon posted:yea that's how I figure it as well. titans have been around long enough that grisha must surely not be the first person to have two of the titan powers at once Yeah and the higher ups didn't seem particularly concerned when Zeke reported it either.
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The ultimate titan is just a matryoshka doll of the nine shifters inside each other
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Captain Invictus posted:The ultimate titan is just a matryoshka doll of the nine shifters inside each other I hope the last anime opening is just a knockoff of that cool scene from gurren lagann showing dudes piloting a robot, piloting a bigger robot piloting a bigger robot. Only it's titans eating each other.
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Captain Invictus posted:The ultimate titan is just a matryoshka doll of the nine shifters inside each other I wonder if the ultimate titan is limited to those 13 years, and that's what saves eren. Of course you will have that bittersweet scene where armin must be eaten. Either by Eren, or Eren consuming the person who consumed Armin (Zeke perhaps).
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Gruckles posted:Story ends with Eren being eaten by someone else and passing on all the powers and memories. The whole story prior was actually this new shifter processing all the new memories, and them getting mixed up when it's a memory of Eren remembering someone else. Yea., This has been my thought for awhile.
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Donkringel posted:I wonder if the ultimate titan is limited to those 13 years, and that's what saves eren. I think they said the original Ymir died after 13 years, which would imply having all powers does not save you.
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Donkringel posted:I wonder if the ultimate titan is limited to those 13 years, and that's what saves eren. If anything it would make more sense to have Armin eat Eren, or to have someone else eat both of them. Eren doesn't have much of his 13 years left.
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ThePineapple posted:If anything it would make more sense to have Armin eat Eren, or to have someone else eat both of them. Eren doesn't have much of his 13 years left.
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snucks posted:IIRC Eren and Reiner have 4 years left, though Reiner seems eager to die a lot sooner. The series will likely end with Eren facing death in some form. He will eat himself and inherit his own powers.
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This is all leading up to clones. Clone yourself, have your clone eat you, live on through the clone. Or body surfing. Move into another body, have that body eat your former body, keep on living with Titan powers.
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Hate-Senpai posted:This is all leading up to clones. Clone yourself, have your clone eat you, live on through the clone. This is technically possible, it's what the king was doing before Grisha ate his host.
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Sub Harrison posted:Kreuger is our most reliable source of Titan science and he said only Eldians can become titan. Can't see why they wouldn't just eradicate the Eldians if anyone could become titans. Because having a permanent underclass of people who believe that their treatment is justified and also give them a strategic advantage is useful to them. The Eldians are not just loyal, they're subservient. That's a pretty important distinction when you're talking about something as powerful and uncontrollable as a titan. Also it's very likely to be propoganda because the whole bloodline thing irl a) has been used to justify the oppression of minority groups since forever and b) is complete bullshit.
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