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Saros posted:
Pink Elephant Let's give those IC the DTs or something, I don't know. Do people even still drink in this time, or do they all just do space meth?
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Jun 12, 2017 11:28
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Pink Elephant!
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Jun 12, 2017 11:57
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Which one entails stopping IC from going to Pluto? Seems like it's Pink Elephant so that's my vote for now.
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Jun 12, 2017 11:59
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Pink Elephant Someone mentioned letting the convoy commit to its Plutonian course before engaging. That sounds like a good idea so that we can play up IC aggression to the Terrans.
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Jun 12, 2017 12:54
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Pink Elephant, for sure. Let's protect the ICS from the terrible secret of space.
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Jun 12, 2017 12:58
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Pink Elephant is the plan that meets my high-level goals.
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Jun 12, 2017 13:37
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Pink Elephant, but I still think we could have some commerce raiding going at the same time with a small detachment of marine ships, one larger ship, and a scout.
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Jun 12, 2017 13:52
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Pink Elephant The IC convoy must not be allowed to reach Pluto, lest they unleash the terrible secret of space.
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Jun 12, 2017 13:52
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Operation independence off course I don't really understand the goons obsession with IC's Pluto mission but it does sound exciting  I am also loving Saros Gif's btw. Were do the pink elephants come from? It seems so familiar.
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Jun 12, 2017 14:14
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The elephants come from a Disney movie, I forget which one.
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Jun 12, 2017 14:20
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Pink Elephant
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Jun 12, 2017 14:30
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Saros posted:The elephants come from a Disney movie, I forget which one. Dumbo? I think it's also a common thing to say people see when drunk. Pink Elephant
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Jun 12, 2017 14:35
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Pink Elephant The interest in the IC Pluto mission is because we, as I see it, need to curry favor with the Terrans to keep the coming war one that we're on the side with two people instead of fighting a war on two fronts. And stopping IC's push towards Pluto is a good start because it weakens the IC's Uranus fleet and helps the Terrans keep territory instead of placing Neptune between two IC locations. We can strike directly at Uranus next mission, but keeping the IC from whatever is has been found on Pluto is pretty important.
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Jun 12, 2017 15:02
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Is the whole "keep the IC from locking down the most important discovery in human history except maybe fire and/or agriculture" not convincing enough for some people?
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Jun 12, 2017 15:07
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It might be because it looks like OP Independence has one vote.
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Jun 12, 2017 15:12
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Not that it looks like it matters at this point, but Pink Elephant.
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Jun 12, 2017 15:12
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Pink Elephant The problem with drawing out their fleet is that it may lead to a decisive battle. We would win but the cost could be high and that would give the Terrans an advantage over us.
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Jun 12, 2017 15:12
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Even blind men can tell that this Elephant is Pink!
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Jun 12, 2017 15:16
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Pink Elephant
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Jun 12, 2017 16:00
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I've updated Pink Elephant slightly to include a recon run and possible missile strike against IC assets if it doesn't endanger the Task Force. If this changes anyone's vote or if they disagree/have suggestions please let me know. Also good choice of GIF Saros being that is from the Dumbo Disney movie. It's when Dumbo gets drunk.
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Jun 12, 2017 16:17
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koolkevz666 posted:I've updated Pink Elephant slightly to include a recon run and possible missile strike against IC assets if it doesn't endanger the Task Force. If this changes anyone's vote or if they disagree/have suggestions please let me know. Disney promotes underaged drinking?
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Jun 12, 2017 17:11
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Pink Elephant is the most sensible option.
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Jun 12, 2017 17:56
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Operation Independence Let's win the decisive battle!
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Jun 12, 2017 19:18
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  OPERATION PINK ELEPHANTS IS A GO5th Feb, 1829hrs  The two task forces sortie. Dumbo:  Goofy:  5 Feb, 2322hrs  A 'Special Branch' snoopship at Saturn reports a thermal contact with four cargo ships and what may be two transports departing and moves to follow at a safe distance. 6 Feb, 1744hrs  Almost nothing interesting happens for nearly 18 hours, yeah. Space is really big out here. Then you get a report from the inner-system that salvagers are recovering advanced components from the wrecks of enemy attack craft.  Not long after the captured corvettes arrive for disassembly and CAA Tharsis pulls up for repair. 9th Feb, 1659hrs Three... days... later. Yeah, distances.  Goofy is halfway to Uranus!  You also pull out some intact advanced components from more FAC wrecks. 11 Feb, 0300hrs  Martian civilian traffic is diverting around Uranus after Goofy commander Sniper4265 contacts them and warns them to clear the area. 12 Feb, 0614hrs  240m km away from Uranus Sniper is woken by a com signal from Titania demanding to know who he is and the meaning of his presence. 'Hmm' he thinks, must be some okay passive sensors down there to spot us this far out.'  Ten minutes later a pair of powerful actives turn on at Titania. The ground based one is extremely powerful and tactical estimates it can target 5000ton ships at anywhere from 120-160m km.  The task force is low on fuel so Sniper orders the tender to refill their tanks and hightail it back towards Neptune. 12 Feb, 0824hrs  One active contact starts moving towards them at 2000kps.  On go Goofy's actives in response, the Fleet scout can almost resolve Titanian orbit. 12 Feb, 0953hrs  Fleet Scout Tornado resolves a powerful IC formation moving towards Goofy including an unknown ship type of cruiser size and three missile destroyers plus a Bill gates class cruiser.  Not long after a 5500T PDC, the source of the powerful sensor emission is resolved by Tornado.  All contacts are well out of range of the size 2 missiles carried by the Ships and the PDC sensor suggests it is a long range missile platform so together with the superior force bearing down upon him Sniper decides to call it a day and retreat. ----------------------  The overall situation. The convoy is moving at 1100kps and still being shadowed by Special Branch. You are well ahead of it on the way to Swift-Tuttle which reports the IC cruiser is still docked. Let me know if you want changes to orders, might be weds/thurs before I can play out the rest of the mission. Saros fucked around with this message at 11:53 on Jun 13, 2017 |
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Jun 13, 2017 02:13
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Alright so we've got a little bit of the ol' Donkey Balls going on. Let's hope that the Special Branch won't mess up our plans too much, at least.
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Jun 13, 2017 04:05
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Whatever happens that Zuckerberg ship needs to go down hard.
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Jun 13, 2017 04:11
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Bozikek posted:Whatever happens that Zuckerberg ship needs to go down hard.
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Jun 13, 2017 04:19
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Crazycryodude posted:Alright so we've got a little bit of the ol' Donkey Balls going on. Let's hope that the Special Branch won't mess up our plans too much, at least. I love this reference, another expanse enthusiast . I have to admit maybe pink elephants was the safer option seeing the defenses of Uranus. Although I hope the absence of our fleet isn't going to bite us in the but. Also I assumed that earth/Pluto can take care of its own defenses when properly warned.
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Jun 13, 2017 10:29
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Baron-of-hell posted:I have to admit maybe pink elephants was the safer option seeing the defenses of Uranus. Although I hope the absence of our fleet isn't going to bite us in the but. Also I assumed that earth/Pluto can take care of its own defenses when properly warned. As far as we know Earth doesn't have any significant forces in the outer system other than a few patrol craft. Generally it's presence is limited to civilian mining colonies and any redeployment from the inner system will take literally weeks to reach something as far out as Pluto. Pluto itself doesn't have any defenses being nothing but a relatively unimportant scientific outpost until recently.
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Jun 13, 2017 11:59
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One interesting aspect of the distances in the outer system is that it takes so much time for things to happen that missions might be rendered moot by stuff happening in the inner system before the ships sent on them even reach their targets. Like who knows what's been going on inner system all this time? (Well, Saros knows.)
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Jun 13, 2017 12:50
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I say let them get well on the way towards Pluto before intercepting. Wait until there can be no other possible destination for the convoy before pouncing, but leave a 100% safety margin of the maximum estimated weapon range to Pluto. I.E don't let them get within 2x the range of their best missile. This will mean them picking up the ships from S-T but I feel we still have more than enough to overpower them, and the IC fleet leaving Uranus is not enough to pose significant threat to the harvesters on Neptune when we the rest of our fleet has support of the PDC there. Quite likely the IC has orders just to chase us off and not engage Neptune anyway.
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Jun 13, 2017 12:50
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GunnerJ posted:One interesting aspect of the distances in the outer system is that it takes so much time for things to happen that missions might be rendered moot by stuff happening in the inner system before the ships sent on them even reach their targets. Like who knows what's been going on inner system all this time? (Well, Saros knows.) I'll keep you updated with major developments when relevant and especially between operations. So far not much, Terra is staring down the two belligerents daring either to do something to piss them off while they both slowly maneuver for position.
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Jun 13, 2017 14:04
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Pharnakes posted:I say let them get well on the way towards Pluto before intercepting. Wait until there can be no other possible destination for the convoy before pouncing, but leave a 100% safety margin of the maximum estimated weapon range to Pluto. I.E don't let them get within 2x the range of their best missile. This will mean them picking up the ships from S-T but I feel we still have more than enough to overpower them, and the IC fleet leaving Uranus is not enough to pose significant threat to the harvesters on Neptune when we the rest of our fleet has support of the PDC there. Quite likely the IC has orders just to chase us off and not engage Neptune anyway. This seems like a reasonable plan. We can probably assume that the Pluto convoy probably has some escorts that the special branch ship's passives can't resolve, but I think engaging this group well outside of reinforcement range is a good idea. My only concern is the IC realizing how much of our force we have deployed for it and trying to rush Neptune with as many fast ships from Saturn as they can. Thus I would recommend we strike closer to S-T, maybe shortly after they leave it, as there are not any plausible destinations in the outer system other than Pluto after S-T anyway. One thing we should do for sure though is make sure our ships refuel before we attack in case we need to make top speed back to Neptune. Pash fucked around with this message at 14:28 on Jun 13, 2017 |
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Jun 13, 2017 14:25
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The IC cruiser at the colony is docked you say. Hmm interesting. First question what sort of military complement does Swift Tuttle have? And second regardless of the answer to the first how much would it cost to get the administration of the colony to bum rush that cruiser with armed workers, security and any military in an attempt to acquire the vessel for the martians?
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Jun 13, 2017 23:57
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koolkevz666 posted:The IC cruiser at the colony is docked you say. Hmm interesting. First question what sort of military complement does Swift Tuttle have? And second regardless of the answer to the first how much would it cost to get the administration of the colony to bum rush that cruiser with armed workers, security and any military in an attempt to acquire the vessel for the martians? I doubt that would work. Imagine a US destroyer docked in a friendly port and the dock workers bum rush them. Its going to be a blood bath. However if we can jam the cruisers communications somehow and we arrive there before the convoy, we could take out the cruiser relatively easily. Collateral damage to the colony would probably be unacceptable if we use missiles but if we can approach on the cruisers blind side (colony between them and us) we could get close enough to use canons.
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Jun 14, 2017 07:49
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Baron-of-hell posted:I doubt that would work. Imagine a US destroyer docked in a friendly port and the dock workers bum rush them. Its going to be a blood bath. Even worse, outside of very large ports or hab-domes access to any spacecraft is only ever going to be via its airlocks making assaulting without specialised Marine equipment basically suicide.  However, something interesting has come up. Apparently there is another (not the snoopship shadowing the convoy) Special Branch ship disguised as a Tramp Freighter en-route to Swift-Tuttle and they would like our assistance. The ship is replete with advanced toys, some of which are not supposed to exist but the key ones are extremely effective jamming equipment and a pair of boarding shuttles fully loaded with SB's scariest bunch of doorkickers. Originally tasked with a much lower-key infiltration and espionage mission the commander of the team has scented an opportunity and is asking for our assistance with boarding the IC cruiser and retrieving its data-core intact.For this to work it would require largely disabling the ship, especially its shields and engines, to allow the boarding shuttles to drop their teams as complete destruction of the ship would initiate the data-core's self destruct routines. To do this would require two things from us: 1) To be a lot more cautious with fire upon the cruiser exposing us to more return fire 2) For the attack to take place in close proximity to Swift-Tuttle so the SB ship has an excuse to be present without arousing suspicion and so it can jam any attempts to alert IC high command of the cruiser being compromised. The Cruisers escorts and the convoy would also need to be totally captured or destroyed to prevent any of them escaping and reporting this. Furthermore the S-T administration would probably be quite angry about the war coming to their doorstep harming our standing with the other independents. The communique from high command gives us discretion as the commander on the scene to co-operate or pursue our own plans so I ask you goons, Continue as planned or co-operate with Special Branch?
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Jun 14, 2017 12:24
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This isn't an official vote but my feeling right now is that this seems like a good opportunity, but I don't want to potentially compromise the bigger mission for anything.
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Jun 14, 2017 12:44
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Cooperate with the spooks. Saying no to them usually pisses off important people, and helping out earns you favors with those same people.
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Jun 14, 2017 13:03
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Help the Special Branch. Never not help spooks.
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Jun 14, 2017 14:23
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Help Special Branch
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