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| The Big3 Tourney |
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67 | 22.41% |
| Will Lakers draft Ball |
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40 | 13.38% |
| Where will the Pauls go |
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54 | 18.06% |
| Will LeBron jump ship to the Spurs or ?? |
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41 | 13.71% |
| Will every team in the league just pivot towards tanking |
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97 | 32.44% |
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sean10mm posted:To be clear, I don't mean they literally cheated. I don't hate them for accumulating talent like they did. I just mean in terms of how subjectively unfair the roster was vs. everybody else in the league. You do raise a good point. The Lebron led Cavs with two legitimate all stars is still clearly behind a team that had the unanimous MVP last year, two all stars, and a generational super talent in Durant. You'd probably have to go back to the Celtics and Lakers rivalries to see imbalance like that, especially when the Lakers got KAJ from the Bucks.
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Jun 13, 2017 16:20
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Steph was a 7 Klay a 11 Draymond was a second rounder poo poo, even Barnes was a 7? Good luck getting close to that level of talent at those picks anytime soon
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Jun 13, 2017 16:22
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Libertine posted:The Warriors are just coming in from a hard negotiation stance initially because they know they have to make a deal with The Don. If he wants to shake hands with them in the White House they are going to need Sessions to relax his draconian attempts to implement harsher penalties for smoking the devil's lettuce. If The Art of the Deal taught us anything it is negotiate from strength or you lose everytime. Which is why Lebron has already called Adam Silver and told him he is going to retire to join the Browns if he doesn't arrange for us to get PG for JR Smith and a protected 2nd.
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Jun 13, 2017 16:23
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Doltos posted:I don't even feel like they cheated. They made wise pickups with vets, developed their own elite talent, and then finally added a piece because the first two steps allowed them a lot of cap space. It's no different than the Heat except it took them two years of the big 3 to add the vets. I see no difference between the Heat signing Lebron/Bosh while already having Wade and the Warriors picking up Durant. They made some savvy moves, sure, but Curry's ankles and the cap explosion were both extremely fortuitous events that made everything possible.
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Jun 13, 2017 16:24
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Never forget: the Warriors were prepared to trade Curry for Bogut but the Bucks took Monta instead.
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Jun 13, 2017 16:28
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Steph was a 7 Giannis and kawhi were both 15 Jokic was in the second round Jimmy Butler was late 20s Gobert was late 20s The talent is always there teams just have to identify who is it and develop it (which is hard)
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Jun 13, 2017 16:28
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Noctone posted:They made some savvy moves, sure, but Curry's ankles and the cap explosion were both extremely fortuitous events that made everything possible.
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Jun 13, 2017 16:31
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BWV posted:Maybe the way the Celtics and Lakers stockpiled assets in the 80s? The Lakers getting Worthy was pretty crazy considering how good they were already. Walton to the Celtics was pretty cool too but he was more like Malone going to the 2000s Lakers. Had Bias not died maybe that Celtic team? I don't think these really compare, though they're as good as guess as I can think of myself. The peak 80s Celtics had 3 stars up front (Bird/McHale/Parrish) and 2 guards that were nice but not amazing. And their depth was often kind of sketchy, Walton had like 1 season where he was good off the bench for them. Before McHale was a starter he was an epic 6th man... but then you're not starting McHale. Worthy was rising as a star as Kareem was trailing off. Worthy became the guy we think of as HOLY poo poo WORTY in like 85-86, while Kareem was still a good center but clearly fading by then. I feel like the Lakers ultimately had deeper rosters than the Celtics generally, so they might be a better candidate, relatively speaking.
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Jun 13, 2017 16:33
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Metapod posted:Giannis and kawhi were both 15 Yet sometimes even with the #1 overall pick there is nobody worth drafting (Anthony Bennett). Finding elite talent in the NBA is stupidly hard, like finding an NFL QB.
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Jun 13, 2017 16:35
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Metapod posted:Giannis and kawhi were both 15 In some fairness, a lot of it is luck. Golden State whiffed during that run too, but they hit pretty big on guys. Also, Curry's ankles magically healing and even Bogut able to stay relatively healthy has been really important during this 3 year run. The cap jump was what got Durant, pretty simple. Next time there is a jump people will probably forget this and argue against cap smoothing again.
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Jun 13, 2017 16:36
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Actually, Lockback, I think if you look into you'll find that every move by Golden State was deliberate. Joe Lacob has it all under control. The man is a genius and the team is light years ahead because of their adoption of unique disruptive strategies. ex post facho posted:yo the nuggets have never even made a finals lol genuinely sorry fr your team walmart owner who thinks he knows what the gently caress he's doing and will find a way to blow it once things start going good :[ https://vine.co/v/OWuFmidQqzW
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Jun 13, 2017 16:36
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Bush Did Outer Heaven posted:Never forget: the Warriors were prepared to trade Curry for Bogut but the Bucks took Monta instead. http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2016/03/22/shutting-warriors-urban-myth-no-not-ready-trade-either-curry-ellis-bogut/ There were serious talks of Klay and Draymond for Kevin Love though. Thank you Jerry West for calling everyone crazy.
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Jun 13, 2017 16:37
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Fast Luck posted:Congratulations to the good Golden State Warrior! I find great comfort in this
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Jun 13, 2017 16:38
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It was the cap jump and Westbrook also . If Russ wasn't insane he probably would have stayed.
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Jun 13, 2017 16:39
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EvanTH posted:Actually, Lockback, I think if you look into you'll find that every move by Golden State was deliberate. Joe Lacob has it all under control. The man is a genius and the team is light years ahead because of their adoption of unique disruptive strategies. Joe Lacob gave Mark Jackson strict orders not to faith heal Curry's ankles until the contract and draft picks were all behind them.
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Jun 13, 2017 16:43
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So is there a hot new meme for the offseason? I assume 'Blown 3-1 lead' is now old news.
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Jun 13, 2017 16:44
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BitterAvatar posted:So is there a hot new meme for the offseason? I assume 'Blown 3-1 lead' is now old news. http://www.ajc.com/sports/warriors-unanimously-decline-white-house-visit-per-reports/i7uecqAhFfD8e2pj8KAqKK/ First team to unanimously blow a white house visit with a 4-1 lead
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Jun 13, 2017 16:45
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Ramadu posted:https://twitter.com/ReformedBroker/status/874584819883266052 Ok, grudgingly  zoux posted:It's a big loss to society that the stankiest face in history was made last night yet we'll never see it. Russ gives no fucks about an NBA ring. He's got a ring that matters.
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Jun 13, 2017 16:53
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Lockback posted:Joe Lacob gave Mark Jackson strict orders not to faith heal Curry's ankles until the contract and draft picks were all behind them. collusion and wage fixing, straight out of the Google/Apple/Adobe/Intel playbook  https://pando.com/2014/03/22/revealed-apple-and-googles-wage-fixing-cartel-involved-dozens-more-companies-over-one-million-employees/(I believe the settlement was around $415m dollars and everyone blamed it on Steve Jobs [conveniently dead] "wow we were totally unaware of our own hiring practices" say remaining CEOs) genius strategies from Silicon Valley can't fail to succeed, gotta love it edit: hah just thinking about how often you CEOs saying to the public "for legal reasons I was totally unaware of the highly unethical and exploitative practices going on in my own company, but despite my willful ignorance I am still the most fit person on the planet to run the place, which is why I deserve these obscene piles of dragon-gold that would be unachievable to even our most highly salaried employee in a lifetime of work" EvanTH fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Jun 13, 2017 |
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Jun 13, 2017 16:54
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The Cavaliers blew a 3-1 series deficit despite having the arguable GOAT and the league's highest payroll
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Jun 13, 2017 16:55
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Paperback Writer posted:Nope. sure, Tim Kawakami's job is to produce content from the Warriors' perspective in exchange for access to the team, to the point of writing up some junk that doesn't actually challenge the only crucial piece of evidence: Joe Lacob posted:
http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/1708621-golden-state-warriors-nba-trade-monta-ellis-andrew-bogut-stephen-curry Kawakami's evidence that the Warriors weren't willing to trade him is that his salary didn't match Bogut's and that the Bucks wanted Ellis lmao. Hmm I wonder if there's a more direct piece of evidence we could marshall here, such as the owner of the team admitting directly in an interview that the organization was prepared to trade Stephen Curry for Andrew Bogut..
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Jun 13, 2017 16:59
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Warriors draft talk sent me down the memory lane of horrible draft nights and wasted lottery picks. gently caress you, Mike Dunleavy Jr. Do you guys remember Summer League sensation Nikoloz Tskitishvili? His career history is pretty amazing:  That dude has seen a lot of lovely gyms.
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Jun 13, 2017 17:02
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Which one of the Warriors really wanted to go to the white house but kept his mouth shut because he didn't want to be a contrarian?
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Jun 13, 2017 17:06
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EvanTH posted:genuinely sorry fr your team walmart owner who thinks he knows what the gently caress he's doing and will find a way to blow it once things start going good :[ you know i do feel for NY fans, but at least the nba will always be entertaining just due to the massive population and insane hype that comes out of city here in denver we rely on jr smith filling kenyon martin's brand new mercedes with popcorn for basketball excitement, and the occasional first round exit followed by a few more years of playoffs-less doldrums ah the halcyon days of 2009, where the nuggets only shot at a championship in the last 40 years was derailed by an inbounds pass from anthony loving carter
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Jun 13, 2017 17:07
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BWV posted:Which one of the Warriors really wanted to go to the white house but kept his mouth shut because he didn't want to be a contrarian? Zaza
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Jun 13, 2017 17:09
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BWV posted:Which one of the Warriors really wanted to go to the white house but kept his mouth shut because he didn't want to be a contrarian? Curry
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Jun 13, 2017 17:10
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BWV posted:Which one of the Warriors really wanted to go to the white house but kept his mouth shut because he didn't want to be a contrarian? steph
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Jun 13, 2017 17:11
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EvanTH posted:4 best postseasons of all time by WS/48 Do you put a games limit on this but not a minutes limit on this just to Leave out Kawhi?!?! Dude seriously put up one of the best playoff runs in NBA history and I don't think anyone is going to remember by next year.
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Jun 13, 2017 17:11
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I think the one thing I learned from that playoffs and finals is that Kevin love is really good. He's come a long way since being a 6'5" doofus who gets in the way He's a legit 6'10" now and is all over that court in positive ways For the playoffs he shot 45% from 3 on 6.2 attempts and had a 29.7 drb%
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Jun 13, 2017 17:12
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SHOAH NUFF posted:Curry Ghost Dog posted:steph i can PERSONALLY guarantee you it was not steph it was definitely zaza or (irl trump fan) andre iguodala euphronius posted:I think the one thing I learned from that playoffs and finals is that Kevin love is really good. which is gonna make the trade talks super weird and stupid
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Jun 13, 2017 17:13
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BWV posted:Which one of the Warriors really wanted to go to the white house but kept his mouth shut because he didn't want to be a contrarian? its definitely iguodala lol
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Jun 13, 2017 17:13
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Jack's Flow posted:Warriors draft talk sent me down the memory lane of horrible draft nights and wasted lottery picks. gently caress you, Mike Dunleavy Jr. If you aren't rooting for Foolad Mahan Isfahan I don't know what the gently caress you are doing with your life
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Jun 13, 2017 17:16
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euphronius posted:I think the one thing I learned from that playoffs and finals is that Kevin love is really good. his defensive issues are also massively oversold and probably should have far more of the offense running through elbow post ups from him than anything kyrie does. not really a knock on kyrie its just they can and should do more cool offball poo poo with klove initiating the offense cause hes such a threat there
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Jun 13, 2017 17:18
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I think it was Steph. He probably says he disagrees with Trump's policies but respects the office deeply and want's to hear "both sides" of the argument.
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Jun 13, 2017 17:22
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Bashez posted:Do you put a games limit on this but not a minutes limit on this just to Leave out Kawhi?!?! It was for 16 games for 16-0 meme reasons, which wasn't a great idea in retrospect because I forgot that there used to fewer games until relatively recently. Going by minute does look more like the list of GOATs, just for you: http://www.basketball-reference.com...er_by=ws_per_48 1) LeBron age 24 2) Mikan 3) Jordan 4) Kareem 5) Wilt 6) Frank Ramsey 7) Kawhi
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Jun 13, 2017 17:25
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Ghost Dog posted:his defensive issues are also massively oversold and probably should have far more of the offense running through elbow post ups from him than anything kyrie does. not really a knock on kyrie its just they can and should do more cool offball poo poo with klove initiating the offense cause hes such a threat there My arguments with Gendo from 2008 are finally vindicated.
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Jun 13, 2017 17:26
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BWV posted:I think it was Steph. He probably says he disagrees with Trump's policies but respects the office deeply and want's to hear "both sides" of the argument. Nah Steph was With Her, is deeply troubled by Trump's tendencies & opposes the Republicans attempt to dismantle the ACA
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Jun 13, 2017 17:27
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I know we're not supposed to talk about Durant being a bitch but... https://twitter.com/_MarcusD2_/status/874490374840037376 https://twitter.com/_MarcusD2_/status/874487220748660736
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Jun 13, 2017 17:28
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drat Sportscenter... Talking about guys being "woke" and the bay not being racist and implying the administration is. And saying Ohio would have wanted the Cavs to go because they supported Trump... it's true but not used to ESPN being this political
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Jun 13, 2017 17:28
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Reminder that there's actually no decent source claiming the Warriors WH thing.
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