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ApplesandOranges
Jun 22, 2012

Thankee kindly.
Threw 25 orbs at the banner because 'eh, I like Lon'qu'.

Didn't get any 5*s. Did get a 4* Hinata for Fury fodder, a 3* +ATK/-HP Gordin (that's good right?) and my first Tharja!

...-ATK/+SPD.

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Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


ApplesandOranges posted:

Threw 25 orbs at the banner because 'eh, I like Lon'qu'.

Didn't get any 5*s. Did get a 4* Hinata for Fury fodder, a 3* +ATK/-HP Gordin (that's good right?) and my first Tharja!

...-ATK/+SPD.

-ATK/+SPD is a pretty good nature for Tharja

Majinfefnir13
Oct 11, 2009

Finally hit the 30K mark, so far a pretty good pace for me.

I'm very surprised how well this team working for me:


Kagero and Reinhardt are my MVPs for the entire tempest, also Celica finally getting her time to shine as my Veronica killer.

Centzon Totochtin
Jan 2, 2009
Do these ploy skills mean I actually have to play the game now

Also, I really like Athena besides her doofy eliwood eyes

e: I FINALLY GOT A LUCINA AND SHE'S -SPD/+DEF OH WELL SHE CAN JOIN MY -SPD RYOMA IN THE DUMPSTER PILE OF UNUSED HEROES

Centzon Totochtin fucked around with this message at 14:49 on Jun 13, 2017

Centzon Totochtin
Jan 2, 2009
the change is want to see in the world is to have a merged Olivia so do I keep my +Spd/-Res Olivia with TA3, WoM3, and Hone Atk 3, or merge her with my new +Atk/-HP one? The +Spd has been working out well for me because it's high enough to double a lot of stuff

Murderion
Oct 4, 2009

2019. New York is in ruins. The global economy is spiralling. Cyborgs rule over poisoned wastes.

The only time that's left is
FUN TIME

Centzon Totochtin posted:

the change is want to see in the world is to have a merged Olivia so do I keep my +Spd/-Res Olivia with TA3, WoM3, and Hone Atk 3, or merge her with my new +Atk/-HP one? The +Spd has been working out well for me because it's high enough to double a lot of stuff

Tough call. I'd stick with +spd, since your objective is taking out (generally slower than average) greens, and TA3 does most of that for you without +atk. Olivia's hp is already critically low, so a -hp IV is bad. You probably want to keep her seal slot for the Fortify Res one, since it helps her buff blade tomes.

Murderion fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Jun 13, 2017

Centzon Totochtin
Jan 2, 2009

Murderion posted:

Tough call. I'd stick with +spd, since you objective is taking out (generally slower than average) greens, and TA3 does most of that for you without +atk. Olivia's hp is already critically low, so a -hp IV is bad. You probably want to keep her seal slot for the Fortify Res one, since it helps her buff blade tomes.

Yeah that's how I was building her. The merge gave her a bump in HP and Spd, so more doubling I guess

Silver Falcon
Dec 5, 2005

Two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight and barbecue your own drumsticks!

ApplesandOranges posted:

Threw 25 orbs at the banner because 'eh, I like Lon'qu'.

Didn't get any 5*s. Did get a 4* Hinata for Fury fodder, a 3* +ATK/-HP Gordin (that's good right?) and my first Tharja!

...-ATK/+SPD.

My Nino is that exact same nature and I hardly notice. Stack those buffs and she'll be fine.

Having reached 27,500 in the Tempest Battles, I've concluded I REALLY need a good red mage. Reinhardt and Super Olivia clean house on their own. Zephiel has been dead weight and I doubt another sword dude would contribute any better. What I need is a red mage. A good one. It's just Henrys and Sophias all the way down right now... oh and Raigh. They all suck.

ApplesandOranges
Jun 22, 2012

Thankee kindly.
Yeah it's actually a pretty good nature. I don't have the feathers to 5* her for a while but once I do she might replace Spring Camilla in my lineup. I've got a 5* Hana I could immediately feed her for L&D3, too.

I think I'm pretty comfortable skipping reds now. I don't have the real heavy hitters like Ryoma but I have a few 5*s (Roy, CorrinM, Stahl, Hana) and a few potential pet projects (Tharja, Ogma, Lon'qu, Draug, Zephiel, Xander).

Redmark
Dec 11, 2012

This one's for you, Morph.
-Evo 2013
Huh, so apparently losing on the last map of Lunatic 5 gets me more points than beating Hard 5.

Since I'm getting 225 points a run it looks like even as a new player I can probably get to 30000. It would be a hell of a grind though.... leaning towards just doing hard/lunatic story mode instead

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
I'll put my guess in now: New Mystery will show up at the E3 direct.

dragon enthusiast
Jan 1, 2010
for what system, though

BlazeEmblem
Jun 8, 2013

Uh oh. Do I use Ariadne thread or Goho-M?

dragon enthusiast posted:

for what system, though

3DS. It is easy for them to put a DS game on the E-shop.

AzureSkye
Mar 4, 2010
BCordelia is sitting on 2k hero merit and 2051 SP even after learning a bunch of poo poo I might use on her one day maybe. I uh...might be using her in tempest a bit much.

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)

Sunning posted:



No where as bad as a World Tournament in DBZ Dokkan Battle. I still have 80 stamina potions left.

Tips for the Tempest Trial:

1.) What's the best team to use if you want to consistently beat all seven lunatic levels, achieve the best survival/speed ranking, and defeat Veronica?

There's no fullproof team because the mode throws crazy stat and skill combinations that'll even wipe whales. Horse Emblem can run into Azura and mages running horse slayer tomes on a map with trees and valleys. Some of the maps, such as the one square valley or the arena with barricades, can spawn ranged enemies that made initiation very difficult.

The closest I've gotten is with a team comprised of Deathblow Reinhardt, Desperation Nino, Desperation Tharja, and Ruby Sword Olivia. The map and enemy pool favors high damage magic units with Blade/Dire Tomes. They can burst down units with two consecutive hits and have a dancer support them. I've had runs where the only damage was received on purpose to get Nino/Tharja in the desperation range.

The team's weakness was high RES units such as Felicia and Niles. Wary Fighter Hector could also be a problem, especially if he spawns on the last map. This was where Olivia came in to either tank or do chip damage. Due to its very strong core, the team is quite powerful even if they lose one unit.



2.) What should my team combination be if I want to maximize my score?

Team A (If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them....):

- It needs to be able to get through the first six levels very quickly and have a decent shot at Veronica. Your composition will depend on your pulls and skill inheritance setup but I recommend a mage heavy + dancer setup that hits hard and fast
- Use reposition to initiate or to get units out of danger. It can be combined with dance/draw back to great effect. Works best on a three movement cavalry unit
- Common threats (for my teams) in early stages were Wary Fighter Hector, Firesweep Faye, Genny with Wrathful Staff, and anyone with movement assists, especially if they have huge stat inflation
- If you have her, I recommend Tharja as the 40% bonus unit. Her blade tome is quite good even at four stars and she can do very well in the last map. Lucina is also good as a heal bot and fighter
- AoE attacks like Blazing Thunder are useful here since enemies tend to clump up, especially on the last map. Remember to save charges at the end of a round since they carry over to the next




Team B (Veronica Hit squad if Team A wipes on the last map)

- You'll need a team of four that can perform multiple roles at the same time and support each other
- Red Triangle Adept (Sanaki can solo the last map if it spawns with enough green units) or a good anti-Veronica red unit
- An Anti-cav specialist. F. Robin/Ursula/Cecilia are great for baiting and taking out the mounted mage that spawns on the right of the last map
- An Anti-Armor unit. Draug is the easiest to deal with due to his low RES but Gwen and Hector can be a problem if they have wary fighter
- Tank for the melee Cav/armor and colorless units. Xander and Camus are free units that are great in this role.
- Healer if you expect to take hits. High damage bow unit if they have spawn with low def bow or mage unit


Team C (I died on stages 1-6 and need a cleanup crew)

- Whatever is needed to finish the map without using up Team B units

3.) I finally made it to 50K points and got Quickened Pulse. I can't believe it's all over. What do we do now?

What do you mean? Now we can finally play the game.

check out this whale

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
I'm joking, of course. I'm more legit impressed that you have the mental stability to do so many runs. I did enough for 4* Marth and I got so sick of that map with the middle forest.

They could at least give us Cecila's maps so I can listen to her map tunes.

ChronoReverse
Oct 1, 2009

AzureSkye posted:

BCordelia is sitting on 2k hero merit and 2051 SP even after learning a bunch of poo poo I might use on her one day maybe. I uh...might be using her in tempest a bit much.

My Reinhardt is well over 5000 already. It looks like I should get the 50k seal within a couple of days. Sitting at 40k right now

Parasol Prophet
Aug 31, 2012

We Are Best Friends Now.
I did the math. If I play through at least 14 trials a day and score at least 300 points on each one (using the "gently caress it, I'm out of my league" method of getting through 6 levels of the top lunatic tier and then quitting unless it looks like I can actually win), which should be possible with my stamina potion supply, I should have just enough time to get to 50,000 points.

Or at least, as far as I can get before my phone explodes.

AzureSkye
Mar 4, 2010

Parasol Prophet posted:

I did the math. If I play through at least 14 trials a day and score at least 300 points on each one (using the "gently caress it, I'm out of my league" method of getting through 6 levels of the top lunatic tier and then quitting unless it looks like I can actually win), which should be possible with my stamina potion supply, I should have just enough time to get to 50,000 points.

Or at least, as far as I can get before my phone explodes.

I just hit 20k and have decided I'm gonna settle for 5* NotLucina and reclaim my life. I'll probably still hit tempest for the solid merit&sp/stam ratio for the units that can clear stuff and need it but I don't have the will to keep doing this with my stamina all day.

Actias
Oct 9, 2012

I'm burned out to the point where I'm actually doing worse than I was at the beginning because I can't bring myself to pay full attention. I'm only a few thousand from the 5*, so I'm thinking that after I make it I'll take a day or two off from Tempest to see if I can dredge up the will to continue.

It'd be nice if they changed to a new set of maps halfway through to freshen things up a bit, although I guess that wouldn't work with the "story."

Centzon Totochtin
Jan 2, 2009
I'm going for 99k because I love orbs and hate myself

Centzon Totochtin fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Jun 13, 2017

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice

Centzon Totochtin posted:

I'm going for 99k because I love orbs and hate myself

Same

Silver Falcon
Dec 5, 2005

Two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight and barbecue your own drumsticks!

I did it, I got her!



I'll probably keep going for the skill seal. Why not?

Also,

Centzon Totochtin posted:

I'm going for 99k because I love orbs and hate myself

Momomo
Dec 26, 2009

Dont judge me, I design your manhole
I'll probably have the patience to get to 6k, but I doubt I'll be getting into the tens of thousands, since I'd have to grind new guys to even finish a full run.

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice
wtf when and why did I give lucina darting blow

It's like I'm some sort of idiot savant for giving people useless arena skills that end up pretty good in a game mode released months later

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
Anyone has a good build for Lucina? She's attack+/hp- and she got 1k from soloing Tempest for me.

Parasol Prophet
Aug 31, 2012

We Are Best Friends Now.
I thought I really screwed up by selecting my SP-fodder level 21 Sanaki instead of the usable level 40 one, as well as MRobin instead of FRobin, on the last map before Veronica. The team got predictably shredded, but made it through with one unit left. Phew, now to give up and get my points!

Except Veronica's crew turned out to be all greens. (Plus Setsuna.)

So I got to actually win one! Hooray!

Retcon
Jun 23, 2010

Tired Moritz posted:

Anyone has a good build for Lucina? She's attack+/hp- and she got 1k from soloing Tempest for me.
The standard build is Fury/Swordbreaker (maybe Desperation, but that's much better on a +SPD Lucina or with Life and Death), plus either Luna or Draconic Aura.

There's also the Healer build with Renewal and Ardent Sacrifice or Reciprocal Aid. That one is probably really useful in Tempest.

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

5* +HP/-ATK Gordin. 5* +HP/-ATK Lon'qu

I don't know what to do here, if anything. I guess just gobble up some vantage 3?

Trebek
Mar 7, 2002
College Slice
Reinhardt is a really good unit. I don't know why people think he's bad.

UHD
Nov 11, 2006


Trebek posted:

Reinhardt is a really good unit. I don't know why people think he's bad.

Close to useless on enemy phase, made of tissue paper.

e: That said, mine is +DEF so he can take a few hits from swordlords. Sometimes.

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice

Trebek posted:

Reinhardt is a really good unit. I don't know why people think he's bad.

Has anyone actually been calling him bad? I've seen post after post implicitly assuming he's just the best character in the game

UHD posted:

Close to useless on enemy phase, made of tissue paper.

e: That said, mine is +DEF so he can take a few hits from swordlords. Sometimes.

Oh, there we go, I guess

Snipee
Mar 27, 2010
Reinhardt makes me bad at the game. I have gotten so lazy by telling him to kill everyone that isn't a green unit with 30+ resistance.

FartingBedpost
Aug 24, 2015





I decided to create a defense team with BCordelia, 4* Ursula, 5* Nino, and 5* Tharja.

Realistically, it shouldn't be dominating like this, but I went from having no successful defenses in the last three arena battles, to 4 in two days.

I guess I'm surprised people don't have a plan for the rotating surfboard of blades. Like literally Kagero or Jaffar.

Starsnostars
Jan 17, 2009

The Master of Magnetism
God I hate the tempest map which is four fliers in four corners. It's almost always blues and I never have enough greens on my team to beat the map without one of my units taking a stupid amount of damage.

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
I love that map because Merric shits on everyone. Nice to have a character that basically makes one map completely braindead ez.

Parasol Prophet
Aug 31, 2012

We Are Best Friends Now.
If Setsuna is still alive by the time that map comes up, it's a pretty fun time.

She's almost never still alive, though.

Centzon Totochtin
Jan 2, 2009
That's weird because I always either get the 4 corner fliers as my first or second map

ApplesandOranges
Jun 22, 2012

Thankee kindly.

Starsnostars posted:

God I hate the tempest map which is four fliers in four corners. It's almost always blues and I never have enough greens on my team to beat the map without one of my units taking a stupid amount of damage.

They're far away from each other that you can bait one or two without too much issue.

But really get some Reposition/Swap on your units.

I really dislike the canyon map though since if the unit on the bottom right isn't a mage and you're running horse emblem you have to go all the way around to start baiting enemies.

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UHD
Nov 11, 2006


cheetah7071 posted:

Has anyone actually been calling him bad? I've seen post after post implicitly assuming he's just the best character in the game


Oh, there we go, I guess

He's still crazy strong but he's not an invincible juggernaut. He's also pretty useless against green tomes, though Veronica's res is low enough that he can do appreciable damage to her before she vaporizes him.

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