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| The Big3 Tourney |
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67 | 22.41% |
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40 | 13.38% |
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54 | 18.06% |
| Will LeBron jump ship to the Spurs or ?? |
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41 | 13.71% |
| Will every team in the league just pivot towards tanking |
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97 | 32.44% |
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I don't see how that's a bad deal. They don't think Fultz is far above Jackson/Ball/Someone and will either have two lottery picks next year or a not inconsiderable shot at a top 5 each of the next two years. They traded a top 5 pick for 2 top 5 picks probably.
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Jun 18, 2017 04:32
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Ainge is basically banking on there really being 4 elite prospects
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Jun 18, 2017 04:32
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The Foot Locker ad completely changed my mind on Ball because I am a male between the ages of 15 and 35 thus a member of the demographic most highly susceptible to advertising so I don't see much of a difference between the 1-3 this year although all the film I seen says Fultz is best
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Jun 18, 2017 04:33
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Does it make sense for Boston to draw the line at "top 5" for the 2018 Lakers pick? What happens when Buddy gets the Kings up into the late lottery
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Jun 18, 2017 04:33
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xbilkis posted:Does it make sense for Boston to draw the line at "top 5" for the 2018 Lakers pick? What happens when Buddy gets the Kings up into the late lottery the earth opens up and four riders on varicolored horses emerge from the depths
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Jun 18, 2017 04:35
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The last 10 drafts not counting last year since we haven't had much time on it, the best player in the top 5 was taken 1 overall 3 times. Ainge is more than likely right that the 1 is not especially more valuable than the 3 because no one is a wizard who can see the future.xbilkis posted:Does it make sense for Boston to draw the line at "top 5" for the 2018 Lakers pick? What happens when Buddy gets the Kings up into the late lottery Lakers pick will probs be 2-5 anyway but lol come on
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Jun 18, 2017 04:37
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Lol some guy on the Celtics subreddit is gonna shove an Iverson bobblehead up his rear end because of this trade
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Jun 18, 2017 04:38
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To clarify, Buddy will definitely lead them to a by 2019 so that pick is gonna be AWFUL that or the Kings will win the lottery
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Jun 18, 2017 04:38
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Kings with 5 and 10 may not terrible If they get DSJ and Laurie ....
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Jun 18, 2017 04:39
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euphronius posted:Kings with 5 and 10 may not terrible Then even if they're good, they'll translate it into wins in about 2 years, a year too late. A few days ago everyone is talking about how that pick is so amazing and valuable and now suddenly it's not worth the difference between two guys who were under consideration at 1?
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Jun 18, 2017 04:41
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I'm just saying they are not a lock for worst record .
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Jun 18, 2017 04:43
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Jun 18, 2017 04:48
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Yeah Kings were bad this year and they still had the 8th worst record. They won't be good in 19 but not good doesn't necessarily mean top 5 pick. There are a lot of bad teams in the league
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Jun 18, 2017 04:49
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Add in jj reddick and there's the starting lineup.
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Jun 18, 2017 04:49
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Lol https://twitter.com/AdamHimmelsbach/status/876284322147389440
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Jun 18, 2017 04:50
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Dear god
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Jun 18, 2017 04:51
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Look, we don't have room for Fultz right now, but we also don't wanna give up any of our future picks to improve our team right now either. Also, this allows the Celtics to focus on the real weak spot on their roster: wings
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Jun 18, 2017 04:52
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Look, Terry Rozier is untouchable in trades so therefore you have to pass on anyone that plays his position too
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Jun 18, 2017 04:55
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Metapod posted:Lmfao this is the most specific protection I've ever seen It just means we'll get the #1 and 2 picks next year. 
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Jun 18, 2017 05:08
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https://twitter.com/hardROClife/status/876282344646246400
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Jun 18, 2017 05:10
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We are all /jah/
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Jun 18, 2017 05:15
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So does Okafor finally, mercifully get traded?
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Jun 18, 2017 05:21
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euphronius posted:Kings with 5 and 10 may not terrible Those guys probably won't be good for at least a couple years
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Jun 18, 2017 05:24
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I can see a scenario in which the Kings roster is around the same talent level as the Suns this year, but without the incentive to unabashedly tank toward the end of the year. They won't be good, but you add a top-3 talent next year and they're at least potentially interesting. Plus maybe teams will be worn down by the even-more-brutally-effective 2018 Warriors championship run, and there will be a race to the bottom as GMs wait out Golden State's dynasty. What I'm saying is: Buddy Will Lead The Kings To The Playoffs
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Jun 18, 2017 05:32
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Doltos posted:So does Okafor finally, mercifully get traded? https://twitter.com/ramonashelburne/status/876298180924551168
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Jun 18, 2017 05:41
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The Kings have so much cap room and no long-term salary on the books beyond Kosta Koufos and Garrett Temple (christ). With the cap flattening over the next two summers, fewer teams will have cap space for FAs or even room below the tax to use on their own bird rights guys. The Kings could randomly overpay a few mid-career vets and Joerger their way to 32 wins.
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Jun 18, 2017 05:43
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xbilkis posted:What I'm saying is: Buddy Will Lead The Kings To The Playoffs I moved to the bay area in 2010, just before the Giants, Niners and Warriors all took off and started being really good. I move to Sacramento in six weeks, so put everything on the Kings being suddenly good.
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Jun 18, 2017 05:50
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https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/876298609574256640 Incredible
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Jun 18, 2017 05:56
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Jun 18, 2017 06:00
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i'm really starting to suspect that Danny Ainge might be a mediocre GM who has been repeatedly bailed out by worse GMs (KG/Ray Allen, KG/Pierce, MJ rurning down 4 first round picks Winslow)
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Jun 18, 2017 06:04
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lmao
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Jun 18, 2017 06:05
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Jah Okafor is the low-post Rudy Gay lmao Boston. Danny Ainge's entire rep is based on him fleecing Billy King one time. Which is not that hard
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Jun 18, 2017 06:07
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Jah Okafor is the low-post Rudy Gay I'm not sold on the current trade but his reputation also has to do with assembling a very good team out of thin air and winning the championship
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Jun 18, 2017 06:08
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Danny Ainge is the Doc Rivers of GMs?
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Jun 18, 2017 06:10
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xbilkis posted:I can see a scenario in which the Kings roster is around the same talent level as the Suns this year, but without the incentive to unabashedly tank toward the end of the year. They won't be good, but you add a top-3 talent next year and they're at least potentially interesting. Rookies Are Bad
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Jun 18, 2017 06:11
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Cool Buff Man posted:I'm not sold on the current trade but his reputation also has to do with assembling a very good team out of thin air and winning the championship That wasnt Danny Ainge. That was me. Please tell all your Boston fan friends maybe somebody will give me a free burrito or something Hey there goes the guy who got us the championship geez he looks hungry
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Jun 18, 2017 06:11
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Cool Buff Man posted:I'm not sold on the current trade but his reputation also has to do with assembling a very good team out of thin air and winning the championship I'd characterize him as more erratic than good or bad. We also don't know what else is going to happen over the next ~month. If he can get both Hayward and Butler and they can get past LeBron to the Finals, then it's a good trade.
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Jun 18, 2017 06:12
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EvanTH posted:That wasnt Danny Ainge. I don't talk to Boston fans about basketball. I like being in my own shell. I'll buy you a burrito though Redgrendel2001 posted:I'd characterize him as more erratic than good or bad. Yeah I don't know what to think about him really but my current thoughts are: if they were going to take Jackson anyway they might as well get another pick
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Jun 18, 2017 06:13
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I don't see the Celtics cashing in for a star this offseason at this point. Maybe it's a smokescreen, but the move down from 1 to 3 gives off a strong indication that Boston intends to make a pick in this draft, and the trade was a reflection of how Ainge views the top prospects, not another GM. Does anyone think the Celtics realistically move the #3 pick now? If not, would Chicago or Indiana trade Butler or George for a package built around 2018-or-later picks right now, considering how much uncertainty that carries? I guess if the Celtics were drafting Jackson and acquiring Butler/George, they could trade Jaylen Brown without much worry. But I think the simplest explanation is that Ainge really didn't see much difference between the top 3-4 guys, so he moved down and got another asset without really losing anything, in his eyes
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Jun 18, 2017 06:17
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Hell yeah. This thread and the draft thread are now identical. What are the possible red flags on Fultz? I can name three-- -didn't play on a winning team (fully loving moronic, not a real issue and doesn't count) -65% free throw shooting (could project poorly if he can't shoot, guards really need to be able to shoot) -desperately really needs to cut his hair (Cut Your Hair or Get Cut From The Team, there is no third option in this Harsh Realm)
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