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Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011
i hope the blimp ride goes on for another year

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NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

iram omni possibili modo preme:
plus una illa te diffamabit, quam multæ virtutes commendabunt

Tiler Kiwi posted:

i hope the blimp ride goes on for another year

I don't think your mom will last that long

rocketrobot
Jul 11, 2003

NihilCredo posted:

I don't think your mom will last that long


:supaburn: :iceburn: :supaburn:



But in all seriousness, I like Bandana. I don't like Andy. I don't like that the crew was dumb enough to follow Andy because she got frustrated and spoke up. But I'm okay with the extended action from the mountain pass fight leading to a short mutiny.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




rocketrobot posted:

I don't like that the crew was dumb enough to follow Andy because she got frustrated and spoke up. But I'm okay with the extended action from the mountain pass fight leading to a short mutiny.

At the the time they were in the middle of chaos, Bandana was unconscious, and Andy was giving orders. Going along with it for a while wasn't that bad. Once Bandana woke up they switched to her side and untied her right quick.

D&D still has 6 second combat rounds, right? The whole mutiny lasted a couple minutes.

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

Facebook Aunt posted:

D&D still has 6 second combat rounds, right? The whole mutiny lasted a couple minutes.
Speaking is a free action, you can do the whole Richard III monologue in one round.

rocketrobot
Jul 11, 2003

Facebook Aunt posted:

At the the time they were in the middle of chaos, Bandana was unconscious, and Andy was giving orders. Going along with it for a while wasn't that bad. Once Bandana woke up they switched to her side and untied her right quick.

D&D still has 6 second combat rounds, right? The whole mutiny lasted a couple minutes.



*Unconscious due to getting wrenched by Andy

World Famous W
May 25, 2007

BAAAAAAAAAAAA
I still think Andy was in the right in the beginning of the mutiny. It really felt like a DM panic that the NPC wasn't being perceived how they wanted so we got the 'I just don't like you being in charge' instead of 'you changed our job description and are now getting us killed'.

reignonyourparade
Nov 15, 2012

World Famous W posted:

I still think Andy was in the right in the beginning of the mutiny. It really felt like a DM panic that the NPC wasn't being perceived how they wanted so we got the 'I just don't like you being in charge' instead of 'you changed our job description and are now getting us killed'.

From the very start it was "you're going to get us killed by actually following the pass instead of charging off into the deathtrap mountains!"

Rygar201
Jan 26, 2011
I AM A TERRIBLE PIECE OF SHIT.

Please Condescend to me like this again.

Oh yeah condescend to me ALL DAY condescend daddy.


For real, Andi was being Wrong and Dumb from the start.

World Famous W
May 25, 2007

BAAAAAAAAAAAA

reignonyourparade posted:

From the very start it was "you're going to get us killed by actually following the pass instead of charging off into the deathtrap mountains!"
Vampire allowed on board.

Rygar201
Jan 26, 2011
I AM A TERRIBLE PIECE OF SHIT.

Please Condescend to me like this again.

Oh yeah condescend to me ALL DAY condescend daddy.


World Famous W posted:

Vampire allowed on board.

Yet this didn't really come up during the battle with the giants. It was all about the course Bandanna was ordering.

Gwyneth Palpate
Jun 7, 2010

Do you want your breadcrumbs highlighted?

~SMcD

World Famous W posted:

Vampire allowed on board.

Eh. The vampire was escorted by high level adventurers, confined to a small area, and Nokrud didn't even try anything until he managed to lose all of the escorting spellcasters. The risk to the crew was minimal.

Dolash
Oct 23, 2008

aNYWAY,
tHAT'S REALLY ALL THERE IS,
tO REPORT ON THE SUBJECT,
oF ME GETTING HURT,


The vampire stuff and not feeling committed to the overall mission just built tension and mistrust of the captain among the crew which contributed to the overall breakdown of cohesion when the ambush put them under stress. It wasn't like the mutiny was a particularly deliberate or well-thought-out affair, the engineer basically just snapped then panicked to fill the void while the crew did whatever they could to not all die. If they'd trusted her more like they trusted Scoundrel, they'd probably have assumed she knew what she was doing leading them down the pass.

It's basically just an arc about Bandana growing into the role of captain and winning the confidence of the crew after their initial skepticism of her taking over for Scoundrel, but since they're not the stars of the comic and such an arc doesn't necessarily contribute a lot when their overall plot role has mostly been to ferry the heroes around, it's a bit distracting. It might've helped if there were a smaller, better-defined set of crew-members we were introduced to from the start since apart from Bandana and Andi the rest are basically filler. Seeing three of them getting cut down didn't really hit that hard.

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:
Rich tried to do the same thing he did with the police officers in that one town but that poo poo was lightning in a bottle

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Reminder that a Julio Scoundrel backer story is (at some point) coming and you better believe we'll see the airship crew again.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Calaveron posted:

Rich tried to do the same thing he did with the police officers in that one town but that poo poo was lightning in a bottle

The police guys had for them that they were parodies of the generic characters from dozens upon dozens of cop shows, so in a way readers were already familiar with them.

Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011

NihilCredo posted:

I don't think your mom will last that long

yowza

Rygar201
Jan 26, 2011
I AM A TERRIBLE PIECE OF SHIT.

Please Condescend to me like this again.

Oh yeah condescend to me ALL DAY condescend daddy.


New one!

Geocities Homepage King
Nov 26, 2007

I have good news, and I have bad news.
Which do you want to hear first...?

I would like to see that B-Plot.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
I'm really starting to buy the "Rich is as tired of this miniarc as we are" theory.

RandallODim
Dec 30, 2010

Another 1? Aww man...

PMush Perfect posted:

I'm really starting to buy the "Rich is as tired of this miniarc as we are" theory.

Much more believeable than Belkar's version of events, though equally as satisfying.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
He really should loop a rope around the pommel.

3 Action Economist
May 22, 2002

Educate. Agitate. Liberate.
Typoed his main elf's name!

TheAceOfLungs
Aug 4, 2010

Colonial Air Force posted:

Typoed his main elf's name!

Au contraire; that is actually V's identical twin sibling, who made a secret arrangement with Roy to swap places with V for secretive purposes.

W.T. Fits
Apr 21, 2010

Ready to Poyozo Dance all over your face.

Eifert Posting posted:

He really should loop a rope around the pommel.

I was thinking earlier today about people complaining that Roy should just buy a locking gauntlet already to stop stuff like this from happening... and then it occurred to me, even if he did that, Rich would just have something end up hacking Roy's hand (or even his whole arm) off and he'd still lose the sword anyway.

Schwarzwald
Jul 27, 2004

Don't Blink

W.T. Fits posted:

I was thinking earlier today about people complaining that Roy should just buy a locking gauntlet already to stop stuff like this from happening... and then it occurred to me, even if he did that, Rich would just have something end up hacking Roy's hand (or even his whole arm) off and he'd still lose the sword anyway.

Much later, people would complain that Roy should just pay the mecha-cthonian's to install a locking chain on his robo-arm already.

And they'd have a point.

Post poste
Mar 29, 2010

Schwarzwald posted:

Much later, people would complain that Roy should just pay the mecha-cthonian's to install a locking chain on his robo-arm already.

What he really needs is to master the art of greatsword shotput and get returning on that sucker.

Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."
Avoiding a really tedious subplot is a surprisingly good way to demonstrate how useful V has become now that they've focused on utility.

Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit
I had a dream last night that Rich posted up like 3 strips together at once, and they were goddamn HILARIOUS. Like, cackling out loud funny.

jsoh
Mar 24, 2007

O Muhammad, I seek your intercession with my Lord for the return of my eyesight
my dreams are way fuckin cooler than this guy

Ponsonby Britt
Mar 13, 2006
I think you mean, why is there silverware in the pancake drawer? Wassup?
I feel like the point of the airship arc is to show how far the party has come. At the beginning of the comic they were bumbling around in a dungeon, failing Listen checks and running away from goblins. And in an interpersonal sense, they all had emotional issues they were trying to resolve. The airship crew are there to parallel the old party, with weird issues (I hate you for babysitting me!) and screw-ups on what should be relatively easy tasks. Meanwhile, the actual Order itself is flying around killing dozens of frost giants with class levels and being generally emotionally healthy people working together as a cohesive team.

This arc is to establish that they're finally ready to actually beat Xykon (and confront the Snarl). It's dissatisfying on its own, but it's not meant to stand on its own. It's the climb at the beginning of the roller coaster. "Kinda anti-climactic, I guess. But everything that's not the climax is supposed to be, a little."

Zoe
Jan 19, 2007
Hair Elf
Instead of this whole airship arc we should have just had flashback cutaways to O'chul being awesome at various points in time.

In fact why can't that just be every strip.

ZepiaEltnamOberon
Oct 25, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
O'chul is too o'cool for o'school.

I don't know how O'chul is supposed to be pronounced.

sirtommygunn
Mar 7, 2013



Hate-Senpai posted:

O'chul is too o'cool for o'school.

I don't know how O'chul is supposed to be pronounced.

Imagine a sneezing sound, then add an l.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Top o' the mornin', lads, I'm called O'chul!

D1Sergo
May 5, 2006

Be sure to take a 15-minute break every hour.
Surprise twist, O'Chul rhymes with Opal

Zoe
Jan 19, 2007
Hair Elf
In my head it rhymes with Oh School or Oh Jewel.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Zoe posted:

In my head it rhymes with Oh School or Oh Jewel.
Oh, cool, me too.

Motherfucker
Jul 16, 2011

I certainly dont have deep-seated issues involving birthdays.

Zoe posted:

In my head it rhymes with Oh School or Oh Jewel.

same

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Rygar201
Jan 26, 2011
I AM A TERRIBLE PIECE OF SHIT.

Please Condescend to me like this again.

Oh yeah condescend to me ALL DAY condescend daddy.


Zoe posted:

In my head it rhymes with Oh School or Oh Jewel.

This is Correct

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