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I always comment on myself first, I am self-centered. But you don't REALLY say anything much of substance in there, just a bunch of half feels. Kinda like my shotgun post of random thoughts, which was a lot shorter than yours.... HURMM.
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:I don't like PMush talking about incredibles. It's d1 sure, and it's a good movie, sure, but it's in the middle of discussion about the game no matter how thin the discussion was.  Also Quid is town and Ecco is effortscum
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Quidthulhu posted:I always comment on myself first, I am self-centered. I make more of a go at it than you, yeh?  Besides, how can we have substance this game beyond speculation and theory? I'm not saying quick assessments are bad, but it is more suspicious in this mode of play where solving the game will hinge on these interactions and our thoughts about them. Now i sound like the dad. Better smoothe my mustache and tell bad jokes. Succinct is good, but it feels as I described. Ok leaving foreal now. BYEEEEE~!
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Jun 20, 2017 04:53
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Quidthulhu posted:You obviously can't bestow it upon yourself, I guess I should have made it clear from the get go but choosing that as an option is also not helpful. Obviously you trust your own alignment. As written, I answered your question. I would not grant a cop to anyone else and I would not trust the result if I was forced to. I don't know that anyone would feel different. I'm appreciating the increase in effort, Quid. With regard to any "finger-pointy-ness," let me just say that Quid and I have a history of me encouraging him and he... finds a cliff and walks off of it. At least from wherever I'm sitting at the time. pera's gonna pera; I don't have anything else useful to say, except maybe this: I refuse to vote Ecco day one short of an outright scum confession. The nature of this experiment demands she see d2 so even if she's scum, I'd prefer to focus the other one first. i do not care for dadding as a verb and I'm a lady for anyone stuck in them-territory. I think tomorrow I'll take a look at the folks I've never played with or jammed with - ya'll know who you are so, idk, introduce yourselves?
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Jun 20, 2017 05:02
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I am the queen of shitposts
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Jun 20, 2017 05:08
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I'm going to dad my way to victory pera. The all-dad dadding merrily.
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Jun 20, 2017 05:09
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:Yeah, but maybe cool it with the joke votes? It's four to hammer and it wouldn't be impossible for scum to jump on your two votes? This interaction is the only thing I've seriously furrowed my brow over thus far. As a person who does enjoy setup spec, I don't find that outright suspicious even if it has been demonstrated to be a scum tactic at emulating content. I'm more drawn to contagious harping on the joke votes so early. You might be saying, "...but AA, weren't you complaining about not rushing the day?" This is true. I was. However, AYCs remark comes 2 hours after game start when it was truly unlikely scum would hammer someone. Ecco's reply towards me reinforces their previous stance on the notion, but when I expressed concern it was well into the day, and it was more for the point of securing a window of time to discuss. I'm not saying this makes AYC scum, but it certainly has made me think about it. So yeah... AA signing out! [/quote] Sorry, but no, this is suspect as poo poo. There's a difference of 5 hours between my "maybe watch the joke votes" and yours. Your argument would carry more weight if you said it closer to the deadline. As it is, 2 vs 6 hours is basically no difference. So you can't claim mine was scummy and yours wasn't. There's no flip, so no information comes from the lynch. Scum could easily hammer under some pretense.
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Jun 20, 2017 05:33
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does anyone have any reason to think mushroom is town rn literally any? didn't think so.
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Jun 20, 2017 07:56
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re:ayc vs aa you were both silly in being worried about an early hammer and it honestly felt more like "I am just going to manufacture something to say right now" than a serious concern. I dunno, I'm also not liking AA for that crappy summary post, but it had a lot of words too so.
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Votecount for Day 1  EccoRaven (2): Quidthulhu, PMush Perfect Quidthulhu (1): BottleKnight, EccoRaven, PMush Perfect (1): EccoRaven Not Voting (3): Anomalous Amalgam, areyoucontagious, perameneWith 7 alive, it's 4 votes to execute. The current deadline is June 21st, 2017 at 9 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 1 day, 12 hours.
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Good day, friends! Who is ready for another exciting day of unfounded accusations! Yippee!
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I've gotta be out and about today so I am sad to report that for the most part, I won't be topless. I've been bitching pretty hard at Quidnose but tbh I was mostly ignoring mush. Ay yo mush, jokephase is finally over, who scum? EccoRaven posted:I dunno, I'm also not liking AA for that crappy summary post, but it had a lot of words too so. I don't like this because it's in favor of long posts with many words which unfairly advantages myself and yourself. Which would be the ultimate scum team and gently caress You to you which is why I'm wondering Kash didn't do it. I was looking forward to it. 
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Jun 20, 2017 15:32
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peramene posted:Ay yo mush, jokephase is finally over, who scum? AA has been pinging me a bit too. I hate to use the big fake-impressive words but they both strike me as a little performative? Like they want to be seen saying the words they're saying, rather than for their meaning. I'd rather vote Ecco, though since it's been much more consistent from her.
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Jun 20, 2017 16:19
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PMush Perfect posted:Ecco scum! This is also the feel I get from Ecco. Like just banging that drum right from the start. Quid I've softened a bit on based on some of his recent posts, but I need to re read everything. I think AA has taken his spot on my list simply because that effort post was very "hey guys, everything is cool and these are just light observations only I'd straight up kill this person and that person".
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Jun 20, 2017 16:29
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Fake impressive lol, cute. My word choice is usually deliberate not to impress, but usually because those words are most appropriate. I don't care about impressing anyone. Also yes, AYC, it was a content game equivalent to "marry, gently caress, kill" Who would you cop? Who would you doc? Who would you vig? However, if Mush is actually reading and not sniping in favor of shifting opinion, they will see that there is genuine opinion and explanation. To call my points light is an unfair assessment when I actually made the effort to explain them, even if some are more brief than others. Also BK, you are officially lurking at this point, what's up?
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I've explained why I made an emphasis in people taking this game seriously:EccoRaven posted:The full story is that Kash is running this game to "prove" that flipless games are bad, spurred by me saying "flipless games are good." So I have an interest in this game being a competitive (or at least ordinary) game of mafia beyond just being in the game itself. and regardless "says good things but but is just saying good things for the sake of saying good things!" is a really lovely and lazy (and pro-scum) case. peramene posted:I don't like this because it's in favor of long posts with many words which unfairly advantages myself and yourself. Which would be the ultimate scum team and gently caress You to you which is why I'm wondering Kash didn't do it. I was looking forward to it. more words does not necessarily mean better than. For instance, half of this quote is worthless padding, and I don't think you're town for it.
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Jun 20, 2017 16:36
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:To call my points light is an unfair assessment when I actually made the effort to explain them, even if some are more brief than others. I would vote for BK too, I feel like when he rolls scum his instinct is to lurk. This might be unfounded but it's a feeling.
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Jun 20, 2017 16:38
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Right now I'm feeling pmush is the scummiest based on play. BK had a family thing last night but he's been a non-entity even before then. I'm liking AA's gumption. And I don't like AYC. If the scum are outside of pmush, BK, and AYC then they're doing an okay job and should feel okay with themselves.
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More thoughts while I'm here paying attention, I like AYC. You seem like a chill, genuine player, and you really do remind me of the early days of Evil Sagan. AA did not exactly change my opinion by jumping in literally fifteen minutes after I called them suspicious and then immediately making a super-defensive post. Considering he was busy last night and it's still midmorning in most of the states, pressuring BK so much for not being here yet strikes me as going after an easy target. That being said, if he's still lurking this time tomorrow, then I'll definitely be taking a bit more issue with it.
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Jun 20, 2017 17:04
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PMush Perfect posted:More thoughts while I'm here paying attention, I like AYC. You seem like a chill, genuine player, and you really do remind me of the early days of Evil Sagan. Elaborate how I was super defensive? Super being a bit of hyperbole.
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Jun 20, 2017 17:25
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EccoRaven posted:I'm liking AA's gumption. What does this even mean? You've been absolutely running this show, and I won't argue that you've been posting content, but even you can agree that confirming that your own posts are good things is a waste of space. Of course you think your posts are good, they are your posts. My personal take on picks for scum is you and AA, and I would like to hear from BK soon. Also what have I been doing to make you not like me?
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:Elaborate how I was super defensive? Super being a bit of hyperbole.
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lol, either text over the internet had mislead you or you're trying to establish a narrative. Just because I want you to explain your belief doesn't mean I'm now or then, defensive. Also that post which you name defensive, it addresses both you and ayc, while calling out suspicion on BK. You honing in on something like that is peculiar.
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areyoucontagious posted:What does this even mean? areyoucontagious posted:You've been absolutely running this show, and I won't argue that you've been posting content, but even you can agree that confirming that your own posts are good things is a waste of space. Of course you think your posts are good, they are your posts. "this player is making good posts with content" is not a good scum case, that was my point. That's your case and that seems to be PMush's case, and it's nonsense, so I was addressing it. There's absolutely no way you could reasonably believe this is a good way to go about the game, especially when the people not posting content are so much worse.
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for reference to anyone not paying attention, this is pmush's case, to which AYC has said "I agree."PMush Perfect posted:I hate to use the big fake-impressive words but [Ecco and AA] strike me as a little performative? Like they want to be seen saying the words they're saying, rather than for their meaning. this case is nonsense, it lacks sense. The implication is that PMush doesn't think what I'm posting is bad or wrong (in fact the implication is that they are good and right!), but that I am only posting them to appear like I'm posting good and right things, not because I really mean it. It's patently ridiculous. It's the second laziest case in the world, and does nothing but advance the scum win condition. I bring it up because if AYC votes me for this (terrible) case I'll be at -1, which is even more absurd.
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Jun 20, 2017 18:44
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EccoRaven posted:
You'll notice I'm not voting you. In fact I'm leaving strongly towards AA or BK right now. I'd lynch BK over you. You're just acting as the authority in this thread and I have problems with authority. 
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I'm gonna lock myself in. if anyone can answer this question I'll reconsider.EccoRaven posted:does anyone have any reason to think mushroom is town rn PMush's play so far this game: - Shitposts (worthless) - Talking about the incredibles (worthless) - Making a nonsense case - Says AYC is a good player solely because AYC agreed with the (nonsense) case - Accuses AA of being "super defensive" (he wasn't) and refuses to elaborate. - Half-defends an absent BK (this is a scum maneuver) Their posting just says "I am lazy scum and I'm gonna poo poo my way through this game instead of actually put in any effort." And as an aside, if you want to talk about being "performative," this post is actually a good example of "says things just to look helpful," because the underlying content is hollow.
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areyoucontagious posted:You'll notice I'm not voting you. In fact I'm leaving strongly towards AA or BK right now. I'd lynch BK over you. You're just acting as the authority in this thread and I have problems with authority. sounds like a personal problem then.
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Jun 20, 2017 18:58
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Look at Ecco flying to the defense of her scumbuddy. It's beautiful. I think you got overinvested in the game because you've got something to prove about it going right, but you rolled scum so you're trying to hide your conflicting feelings behind big showy grandstanding.
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do you actually have any substantive reason to think I'm scum, or is it entirely about how I "appear" to be posting.
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EccoRaven posted:So the thing with flipless mafia is that it requires people to actually put effort into posts so others can get a good feel for their tone - do they sound sincere, do they sound forthright, do they sound like they're hiding something.
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Jun 20, 2017 19:32
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PMush Perfect posted:This post is Weird. The vote at the end would feel pretty natural as a joke-vote, but as far as I can tell, you're being entirely serious. Not to mention it was right after BK put an actual joke-vote down on him. flipless games require a more rigorous way to look at the game, I wanted to address that going in. additionally, you may recall that it was a jokevote and I said as such later on. In fact it was you flipping my words around (senselessly) that brought you to voting for me in the first place!
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EccoRaven posted:additionally, you may recall that it was a jokevote and I said as such later on. In fact it was you flipping my words around (senselessly) that brought you to voting for me in the first place! EccoRaven posted:My vote for you is not intended to be a legitimate vote against you, except insofar as you're bad at mafia and it might be good to keep pressure on you early on.
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Jun 20, 2017 19:37
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PMush Perfect posted:So, you put someone at -2 because... reasons? Because you wanted to pressure quid, but it was also a joke? (you put me at -2 while shitposting)
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Jun 20, 2017 19:39
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EccoRaven posted:(you put me at -2 while shitposting)
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sure. PMush I know I'm biased but I hope you at least see that your first attempt at a substantive case this game is not very good. "Puts quidnose at -2!" is a terrible reason to vote someone, "seems serious but then it looks like a joke AND THEN ECCO SAYS IT'S A JOKE???" is not a smoking gun (it's not even a gun), and shitposting like you did all yesterday doesn't exactly make it look like you're going into this with a sincere heart.
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EccoRaven posted:Right now I'm feeling pmush is the scummiest based on play. BK had a family thing last night but he's been a non-entity even before then. I'm liking AA's gumption. And I don't like AYC. I disagree with almost all of this!
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EccoRaven posted:for reference to anyone not paying attention, this is pmush's case, to which AYC has said "I agree." I think she means more "ecco is posting in a manner that seems like she's putting in a ton of effort but is in fact saying nothing?" Where do you get "I agree with Ecco's points but know she is FAKING THEM" from her statement?
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PMush Perfect posted:This post is Weird. The vote at the end would feel pretty natural as a joke-vote, but as far as I can tell, you're being entirely serious. Not to mention it was right after BK put an actual joke-vote down on him. This, however, I don't like. Why are you going back to a vote that Ecco and everyone else has already said "yeah that was a joke vote" with to prove your case? There's far more bad ecco content than this, why start here?
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