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Steve Yun posted:The part of God will be played by a Terry Gilliam cartoon "Shadow...Shadow Moon..." "Is that...are you...god?" "Course it's god! You see anyone else wearing a crown the size of a chip shop 'round here?" "A lot of people in my life been calling themselves that lately." "Yeah? Well they can piss right off!" 
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Steve Yun posted:The part of God will be played by a Terry Gilliam cartoon In my dreams!
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Crow Jane posted:There are much, much worse ways to spend your time than rewatching Kids in the Hall Preacher is about to start up again  They both share contain a reckless Irishman being the best character by far.
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Desperado Bones posted:Actually yes, it's very common among hardcore Catholics (and must catholics), to worship baby Jesus and/or the Virgin Mary (or any of her many versions). I think both figures are very up in importance along with the Christian God himself and grown up Jesus. Catholics don't worship Mary, we ask her to pray for us (intercession). For the purposes of American Gods it doesn't matter too much, but she would likely be closer to Irish Laura's belief in faeries watching over her and intervening in her life than actual deity worship Soothing Vapors fucked around with this message at 12:58 on Jun 20, 2017 |
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achillesforever6 posted:I like the fact that in American Gods Santa is basically a loving scab Yeah.....Saint Nick sold out and now he gets to be a focal point/content for Media during a set period of time. I wonder how powerful he is cause children def seem to worship Santa when they are younger and he follow the old Gods style of "Give a little faith, get a reward".
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Santa would be a good candidate for a "coming to America" segment in the next season. They could even double up on using Ian McShane to play the role. Demonstrate the Old God ethos of give a little worship, get a little answer in pre-industrial Germany then see the world shift its views on him. Modern day Santa has it made, just so long as he never delivers presents, piling up for decades, since it would upset the Invisible Hand of the market.
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ZorajitZorajit posted:Santa would be a good candidate for a "coming to America" segment in the next season. They could even double up on using Ian McShane to play the role. Demonstrate the Old God ethos of give a little worship, get a little answer in pre-industrial Germany then see the world shift its views on him. Modern day Santa has it made, just so long as he never delivers presents, piling up for decades, since it would upset the Invisible Hand of the market. There is no god, but there is a Santa Claus!
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Soothing Vapors posted:Catholics don't worship Mary, we ask her to pray for us (intercession). I know it's correct that we pray to saints to ask them to intercede for us with God, but in many ocassions it really, REALLY feels like and it's worshipping. My main example would be our lady of Guadalupe. People put up altars only for her in businesses and homes, her temple in Mexico City gets a hell lot of people and many pray directly to her (some without noticing thinking they are asking for a favor). She even has a telenovela! in the American Gods' universe she would be a very powerful god(and probably favoring from the new gods), to be honest.
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Steve Yun posted:The part of God will be played by a Terry Gilliam cartoon Will be extremely disappointed when this is not the case.
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Desperado Bones posted:I know it's correct that we pray to saints to ask them to intercede for us with God, but in many ocassions it really, REALLY feels like and it's worshipping. My main example would be our lady of Guadalupe. People put up altars only for her in businesses and homes, her temple in Mexico City gets a hell lot of people and many pray directly to her (some without noticing thinking they are asking for a favor). Saints were real people so I don't know how it would work in this universe. Though I suppose historians agree that Jesus was a real person (just not the son of God with divine powers).
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Henchman of Santa posted:Saints were real people so I don't know how it would work in this universe. Though I suppose historians agree that Jesus was a real person (just not the son of God with divine powers). Remember that the Virgin I'm talking about wasn't a real person. Juan Diego ,the native that encountered her, was. Yet she is considered a saint. Death isn't a real person as well and it's considered a saint by many. Edit: FYI, the word for Holy and Saint is the same in Spanish(santo,santa,san). So I'm probably the one getting a bit confused here 
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Jun 20, 2017 16:42
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If we don't get a Death of the Endless cameo at some point (even just non-speaking), I'm going to be very surprised.
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Paul Bunyan. Paul fuckin' Bunyan.
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Jun 20, 2017 16:49
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If God himself shows up it would be hilarious if he was played by Morgan Freeman.
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Chernabog posted:If God himself shows up it would be hilarious if he was played by Morgan Freeman. Well that'd be Media's version of him...  Jesus' dad is probably reformed Zeus given what we know of Easter?
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Soothing Vapors posted:Catholics don't worship Mary, we ask her to pray for us (intercession). For the purposes of American Gods it doesn't matter too much, but she would likely be closer to Irish Laura's belief in faeries watching over her and intervening in her life than actual deity worship It may technically be true, but many catholics pray directly to saints to get them to do whatever they are a saint of. Lose your keys? Ask St. Anthony to find them. Need a job? Ask St. Joeseph to find you one.
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Cojawfee posted:It may technically be true, but many catholics pray directly to saints to get them to do whatever they are a saint of. Lose your keys? Ask St. Anthony to find them. Need a job? Ask St. Joeseph to find you one. There's a saint that you have to do small prayer if you want to find something that got lost,or need, and once you find that object or what you need (a job for example) you have to dance a bit for him.  That saint is cool. (the story is that he was a monk that loved to dance while praying, so you now have to gift him a dance as a thank you).
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Quick post to say good job Corben Bernsen as grizzly old Vulcan, completely didn't recognise him, best guess was Terry O'Quinn.
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Well that'd be Media's version of him... Yahweh was mentioned in some ancient Greco-Roman texts including one by Plutarch that apparently claims he's the equivalent of Dionysus, god of wine, fertility and ritual madness. If Fuller really wants to piss people off...
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Well that'd be Media's version of him...
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Yahweh is the semitic god of war, so they just just mention that Odin went as Yahweh for a while.
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Cojawfee posted:Yahweh is the semitic god of war, so they just just mention that Odin went as Yahweh for a while. Then really get the poo poo stirred up by having Asherah show up.
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I want to see Samael and Sophia show up, given that the US has the largest and fastest-growing number of Gnostics in the entire world. One could even argue that, while Gnostic Christians are a tiny majority of Overall Christians, they overwhelmingly tend to be much more serious about that belief. Would also not be surprised if Gaiman worked in a variation of the Pratchett quote "Wizards don't believe in magic because a fish doesn't believe in water", I feel like that sentiment applies to how Media and Tech Boy work; nobody believes in them per se, they are like believing in gravity.
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biracial bear for uncut posted:Then really get the poo poo stirred up by having Aslan show up. 
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I mentioned in the other thread that I really like the idea of aging, has-been Victorian Era or turn-of-the-century new gods that have fallen by the wayside. White Man's Burden, Britannia, Nazi Odin, Steam Engine Boy, etc. If moderns inspired a god of iPhones then surely victorians inspired a monocoled god of machine gunning natives for their own good, pip pip jolly chap. We also need to see Prince Philip as a new god. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Philip_Movement
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I mentioned in the other thread that I really like the idea of aging, has-been Victorian Era or turn-of-the-century new gods that have fallen by the wayside. White Man's Burden, Britannia, Nazi Odin, Steam Engine Boy, etc. If moderns inspired a god of iPhones then surely victorians inspired a monocoled god of machine gunning natives for their own good, pip pip jolly chap. For real. It probably isn't feasible to do in a show that only has 8 episodes per season for some reason. I would love to have less special effects for a show that has 20 episode seasons that covers more concepts of gods. We have ancient gods vs modern gods. We need some gods from the 1800s that are just barely getting by with people who fantasize about how things used to be.
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No I do not want Steampunk Gods please don't give Neil Gaiman any ideas, you know he'd do it
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I want to know what tragic bargain some old god made for relevance that led to the resurgence of the Steampunk aesthetic.
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biracial bear for uncut posted:Paul Bunyan. Has to be Patrick Warburton.
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Clearly it was the god of the Industrial Revolution, who would have risen to power at the beginning of the 20th century, and then lost power as things diversified became taken for granted. I mean, He's probably still as powerful, but he's moved from America to overseas production. His deal with Media for continued relevance in America would have been the fetishization of gears and steam power and poo poo.
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JawnV6 posted:I want to know what tragic bargain some old god made for relevance that led to the resurgence of the Steampunk aesthetic. "We created brunch. We created dating websites. We created Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura."
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The steampunk scene is full of people who missed or fled from the SCA scene. They are all terrible.
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Henchman of Santa posted:Saints were real people so I don't know how it would work in this universe. Though I suppose historians agree that Jesus was a real person (just not the son of God with divine powers). A lot were, a lot weren't. A bunch of saints are just gods that missionaries turned into saints to help convert the indigenous populations.
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I think Mexico's La Santa Muerte is a blending of traditional mexican religion with catholicism. Really that's most christian practices and a lot of saints, but the ones from Europe come from religious traditions so far removed that we often can't recognize them anymore. Czernobog survived into the middle ages as a slavic portrayal of the devil, for example.
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All of Catholicism is "your religion has *thing*? Well ours also has that. In fact, your thing is actually based on our thing, so you're technically already practicing part of our religion. You might as well join us and make sure you don't go to hell."
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How long are we waiting for season 2, again?
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Not too long I hope. I question the 5 year plan, especially considering Ian McShane's age.
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Cojawfee posted:All of Catholicism is "your religion has *thing*? Well ours also has that. In fact, your thing is actually based on our thing, so you're technically already practicing part of our religion. You might as well join us and make sure you don't go to hell." In the fine Roman tradition of "Our Gods are also your Gods." As bad as the Old Gods are, and they are pretty bad, I can't help but like them a whole lot more than the New Gods. If only because they seem to have a much better sense of themselves and talk like humans, as opposed to the NG who all seem to be functionally inhuman creatures. And Jesus' dad is going to be one of the many Thunder/sky gods of the Levant peoples. El maybe. I'd love for Marduk to show up though. Like as a proper old timer. One of the first recorded Gods ever and he's in a wheelchair and as ancient as anything. Josef bugman fucked around with this message at 00:04 on Jun 21, 2017 |
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I want some Indian gods. Ganesha and Shiva would be pretty rad!
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Would the collective fears of american kids (and those adults who still get antsy when they're alone in the dark sometimes) cause the boogeyman to actually exist? He'd be like It/Pennywise, shapeshifting through the years to match what kids are afraid of. A demon in the 1700s, Creature from the Black Lagoon in the 50s, Jason in the 80s, etc.
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