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iospace posted:Yes and? Just wanted it on the record in case I get the avatar of shame.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Ah the Jim Benning approach. he said drunk, not drunk and stupid e: my team 
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Jun 19, 2017 05:59
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There's no NHL rule that Vegas has to draft a team that's cap friendly
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Jun 19, 2017 06:21
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Sharks Eat Bear posted:There's no NHL rule that Vegas has to draft a team that's cap friendly Actually, there is. quote:* Vegas must select players with an aggregate Expansion Draft value that is between 60-100% of the prior season's upper limit for the salary cap.
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Jun 19, 2017 06:39
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JawKnee posted:
No actually I didn't pick Bachman because I thought Vegas would actually take him, in fact it's because goalies are worthless in the rules and so is everyone on Vancouver's exposed list.
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Jun 19, 2017 11:39
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someone thinks that Vegas is going to take:
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whatis posted:If we're supposed to be under the salary cap, can that be uhhh...explicitly stated? Because "within the NHL rules" is pretty vague and I don't even know what exactly that entails I didn't think it was very vague at all!
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Jun 19, 2017 13:11
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Well it's vague (to me) because UFAs don't have active contracts so there's no way of telling how much they're actually worth unless value is based upon past contract or something, which is math you would have to do on your own because CapFriendly won't do it for you. But I guess I'm thinking too hard about it and will pick a new team
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Jun 19, 2017 14:46
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UFA contract value is 0.
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Jun 19, 2017 14:56
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Whoops. What I meant was that Vegas' draft selections don't have to be cap friendly as if it were Day 1 of the 17/18 season, but that's a good point about the 60% floor they have to hit!
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Jun 19, 2017 14:56
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lol I put in my team I picked without using the Cap calculator and my fly by the seat of my pants led to a team with 95 million in salary. So I went through and submitted a second list that is my actual list since my first one was hosed to all hell. Definitely use that cap calculator if you don't want a hilariously over the cap team. e: guess I should post mine as well VV 
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Jun 19, 2017 15:26
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I couldn't be bothered to come up with a team based on the back door dealing or figuring out what UFAs would cost, so this is the best team I could assemble based on not trying. Consider it my horrible entry.
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Jun 19, 2017 15:52
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ThinkTank posted:I couldn't be bothered to come up with a team based on the back door dealing or figuring out what UFAs would cost, so this is the best team I could assemble based on not trying. Consider it my horrible entry. Isn't Ryan a no-go because the NMC?
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Jun 19, 2017 16:03
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Isn't Ryan a no-go because the NMC? He's available, he has some sort of modified NMC that only prevents him being assigned to the AHL. His downside is that he's signed for 5 more years at $7.25M. I just really don't rate Marc Methot.
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Jun 19, 2017 16:11
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ThinkTank posted:He's available, he has some sort of modified NMC that only prevents him being assigned to the AHL. His downside is that he's signed for 5 more years at $7.25M. I just really don't rate Marc Methot. See I think with Vatanen off the table, Methot might be one of the better defencemen available.
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Jun 19, 2017 16:22
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I picked Ryan too because that's how our scoring works best but oh man that would be a terrible choice if Vegas really took him.
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Jordan7hm posted:I picked Ryan too because that's how our scoring works best but oh man that would be a terrible choice if Vegas really took him. Oh yeah, I'm not advocating actually taking Ryan from a franchise building perspective. I just selected him because he has the best track record of anyone available (that's not a UFA) of putting up 50-60 points and could win me some sweet Vegas swag.
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Jun 19, 2017 16:44
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My wild unresearched picks actually met all the rules.
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I forgot who I picked once I hit the submit button, so I can't go back and check my cap status or how many positions I picked.
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My strategy was to go more towards making "realistic" picks as opposed to picking players that I expect to have the best performance next season. That said, I didn't do too much research into speculation on back door deals besides the big ones that have been reported, so I'm sure I'll be way, way off...
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Jun 19, 2017 19:08
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Well, here's my silly team. This is not going to win anything but ridicule, but I'm interested in seeing how it goes. E: Also because I suck so much I cropped the image to not include the data, but it fits all rules. Sorry 
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Jun 19, 2017 19:09
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 This team would be pretty grindy and score very few goals. Cap should be good, it's like $57m or something. edit: Also I guess I was dumb and got some UFAs but whatever.
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Jun 19, 2017 20:11
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Sharks Eat Bear posted:My strategy was to go more towards making "realistic" picks as opposed to picking players that I expect to have the best performance next season. Of course, an 'inferior' player might still put up better scoring numbers if they get chosen by Vegas, since they'll get better ice time and powerplay time.
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Jun 19, 2017 20:29
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Hockles posted:I forgot who I picked once I hit the submit button, so I can't go back and check my cap status or how many positions I picked. Same.
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Jun 19, 2017 21:32
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 Picking younger people if possible, gotta plan for the future! (in this contest only going for one year) Picking goalies only when I look at the skaters available and go "mehhhhh".
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Jun 20, 2017 00:29
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We're building for the future. 
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F- Plekanec (MTL), Neal (NSH), Cammalleri (NJD), Eakin (DAL), Perron (STL), Kruger (CHI), Dorsett (VAN), ROFL (PHI), Lewis (LAK), Nordstrom (CAR), Stewart (MIN), Karlsson (CBJ), Rychel (TOR), Dano (WPG), Marchessault (FLA), Thornton (SJS), Pulkkinen (ARI), Grigorenko (COL) D- Bogosian (BUF), Methot (OTT), Garrison (TBL), Hickey (NYI), Miller (BOS), Manson (ANA), Bartkowski (CGY), Reinhart (EDM), Schmidt (WSH) G- Fleury (PIT), Mrazek (DET), Raanta (NYR) PROJECTED CAP HIT [The cap hit at seasons end based on the previous single day rosters and assuming the current roster remains the same until the end of the season] : $69,602,023 PROJECTED CAP SPACE [The projected cap space value is the difference between the cap ceiling and the projected cap hit. If the projected cap hit is greater than the cap ceiling due to long-term injury relief, the projected cap space is $0.] : $3,397,977 All-Star James Neal, 28 wins because expansion. GO TEAM! ...go Jackets West, apparently (Dorsett, Karlsson, Rychel, Dano, Marchessault, Methot).
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Jun 20, 2017 02:34
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Dang... some of these teams don't have poo poo to pick from!
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Jun 20, 2017 05:14
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My attempt at picking the highest scoring players (per the system) while remaining compliant with draft rules: Cap hit is $68,590,000 (I don't know how I broke this in the screenshot)
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seems like a lot of UFAs they could just wait on until after the expansion draft - which is the reason I avoided Radulov/Nesterov/Vrbata/whoever else
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Zodijackylite posted:My attempt at picking the highest scoring players (per the system) while remaining compliant with draft rules: Zooming in and out on the page breaks the cap number for whatever reason. I had to draft with the page at 90% zoom beforehand to get it to display.
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JawKnee posted:seems like a lot of UFAs they could just wait on until after the expansion draft - which is the reason I avoided Radulov/Nesterov/Vrbata/whoever else True - the purpose was purely to aim for the best numbers next year of exposed players. I picked goalies from garbage teams because they're not being scored. I think VGK will mostly pick younger guys in the draft, plus a few players like Grabner or Raanta who will immediately be flipped to another team.
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Alright, I'll probably be closing submissions at or around 6:30 tonight!!!! So get your incredibly good and cool picks in.
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AsInHowe posted:Essentially, it sounds like Vegas is going to be reaching out to each team before the pick is made, so they could maybe work out a deal if Vegas is picking someone they want kept. I don't understand the strategy for Vegas behind this at all? You're an expansion team: the deck is stacked against you and the only thing you've got is the ability to find a player other teams overlooked on their un-protected list?
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Let us go, the golden knights
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so can we change our submissions before the deadline? Given all the trade stuff, I may want to...
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JawKnee posted:so can we change our submissions before the deadline? Given all the trade stuff, I may want to... I don't think so, no. That seems against the spirit of things.
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Especially because leaks are starting to come out with increasing frequency. If they continue to come out I may stipulate a soft deadline after which submissions won't be eligible for the matching prize.
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Hand Knit posted:I don't think so, no. That seems against the spirit of things. Yeah that doesn't seem fair. I'm sure a lot of people picked Josh Andersen for example and it sounds like Columbus may have made a deal to keep him from getting picked but that's not prior knowledge any of us had when we did our lists.
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It took awhile, but I finally put together my team. Rather than try to assemble the best team, I'm aiming for the closest actual team, which will inevitably put me near the bottom of scoring but hopefully not last! $66.1 mil cap hit. I don't think it'll be that high, so I'm second guessing some of my picks but whatever. For fun, this is the team I would've picked if I was the Golden Knights GM (ignoring the contest rules, where basically it's just "put together the best team for the inaugural season"):  $47.4 mil cap hit. All my extra picks went towards D, which I'd end up trading several of, either for picks/prospects or forwards.
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Hand Knit posted:Especially because leaks are starting to come out with increasing frequency. If they continue to come out I may stipulate a soft deadline after which submissions won't be eligible for the matching prize. I was going to complete mine after work today around 5PM EDT. Hope I make the soft deadline. 
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