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question about bekker's twisted mirror: if there are multiple lowest units in the game, it should be random which one gets the buff right? or does the game prioritize your opponents units somehow? because i just lost two games in a row where my opponent had one really high unit and one unit at 1 strength and i had three 1 strength units on the board neither of which got the buff. i normally don't get mad at video games but that poo poo tilts me like nothing else.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 09:38 |
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 10:36 |
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It prioritizes same-side swaps. Priestess of Freya can go straight to hell.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 11:20 |
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The Gorp posted:It prioritizes same-side swaps.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 11:26 |
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Lester Shy posted:Did Spell Scoiatael get hit too hard by the recent nerfs to be viable? I just opened Ithlinne and I'm trying to decide if spending 1600 scrap to finish the deck is worth it. I haven't played a single Scioatael game, but I love annoying, non-interactive decks. It's strong enough for multiple players to reach top 10 with.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 11:49 |
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The Gorp posted:It prioritizes same-side swaps. This hasn't been my experience. I'm not sure but I think it's just random.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 12:13 |
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In two instances I have had 4 or 6 harpy eggs and the opponent has had one Priestess of Freya. In both cases and a few others where I'm too dumb to see that I'm tied, it always stays on the opponents side. Maybe I'm just the unluckiest person in the world but I haven't seen it transition sides once if both players have a lowest unit.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 12:16 |
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I think that's just your bad luck. Plenty of times I've seen it switch sides when there were 1-power units on both sides of the board.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 12:23 |
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Are you guys serious? Of course it's random.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 12:29 |
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Guess I'm wrong. I never saw a sideswap if a same-side was possible, both when I'm playing with or against it.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 12:48 |
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I think the mirror takes damage into account. For instance if you have a 1 strength on your side that's been damaged to 1 and a base 1 strength unit on your opponents board it should prioritise your damaged 1 strength unit. I could be remembering completely wrong but I think I've done that in one of my games. But of course it could be totally gently caress random and I just got lucky
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 14:40 |
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It's just random, there's not much to it. The game doesn't want you to do blind mirrors with several 1 str units on each side of the board and get away with it all the time, so the random factor is a a potential punish(and also a cap on the card power itself), so don't gently caress it up by letting those priestess/medics survive or messing up with weather damage. Bekker's Twisted Mirror is a fun card and it takes awhile to actually know how to use it properly despite how straightforward it looks.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 14:51 |
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Sultan Tarquin posted:I think the mirror takes damage into account. For instance if you have a 1 strength on your side that's been damaged to 1 and a base 1 strength unit on your opponents board it should prioritise your damaged 1 strength unit. I could be remembering completely wrong but I think I've done that in one of my games. But of course it could be totally gently caress random and I just got lucky It definitely doesn't do that. It will prioritize same side swaps over damage. Earliest played unit is the priority if a same side swap isn't possible (ie - if you play a harpy after they rot tosser you and then you Bekker's and it's between the cow carcass and the harpy egg, it'll buff the cow carcass).
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 15:33 |
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lmao just got my first rage quit with the NG anti-Skellige deck that Iv'e been messing with. Resurrected two of their queensguard to my side and locked two of their bears and resurrected one to my side so they just forfeited at round 2. So far it's not the most consistent deck though, it does well against Skellige and other NG decks but usually gets wrecked by consume decks.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 16:44 |
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The Gorp posted:It's good, and by that I mean it's the single Monsters deck at the moment. I added a Yennefer to it and the unicorn spawn is loving disgusting with the 50 billion units Consume decks poo poo out. Switching between NG spies and consume is depressing though because the spy deck you're scrapping and tightly trying to control the board and with monsters you're just making GBS threads out these massive power swings. Consume has so much power compared to NG decks. Electronico6 posted:Rainfarn was great pre-nerf, and was enabling the spy deck along side Ciri, more so than Tibor or RNR. Right now he is good with Fringilla but finding a spot unless your running a dedicated deck with her is kinda hard. So I've been tinkering around with a combo of Vilgefortz, Stefan Skellen, John Calveit, and 1 or 2 Impera Enforcers. Basically knowing what card is on top allows you to make some Imper Enforcers gold and then guarantees what card you pick up with Vilgefortz. It's been interesting. My spy decks consistently get through my entire deck by round 3 or get down to 2-3 cards left depending on how I play it so I can guarantee I pick up every silver and gold I have. It's caused me to push more towards a control deck but it's still not wildly effective because there's no power in this deck.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 16:44 |
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I just got villentretenmerth ahhhh :X
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 17:25 |
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Darke GBF posted:It definitely doesn't do that. It will prioritize same side swaps over damage. Earliest played unit is the priority if a same side swap isn't possible (ie - if you play a harpy after they rot tosser you and then you Bekker's and it's between the cow carcass and the harpy egg, it'll buff the cow carcass). i just had a situation where i had 4 harpy eggs on the board, my opponent had a 14 strength johnny. opponent plays a rot tosser, i play bekker's. gonna let you guess what happened.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 17:42 |
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Welp, started running into the loving bears builds. Good lord, 3 loving bears at once is beyond irritating.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 18:12 |
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I've played a lot with BTM and I'm 99% sure it's random when it comes to ties. I've gambled with it before and it behaves about how I'd expect it to. Win some, lose some, doesn't really seem to matter about stuff like play order or whose side of the board it targets. I can recall cases where I've managed to steal games by doing this, and times when with the exact same setup it's backfired. In other words you should never actually rely on this card if there's a tie on the board. The only time you should play it in this situation is if you're going to lose anyway. Otherwise hold on to it and try to knock out their low str units with frost or rain. Also dont be afraid to swap with a "low" target, swapping between a 1 and an 8 is still like playing a 14 point silver, which isn't bad.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 18:12 |
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Rainfarn is loving useless. Despite her low power value Ciri is still amazing. She's actually an awesome spy in disguise.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 18:22 |
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I want like a 20 power neutral spy that just draws the top card in your deck
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 18:25 |
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Subvisual Haze posted:Despite her low power value Ciri is still amazing. She's actually an awesome spy in disguise. Which Ciri? Regular gold Ciri?
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 18:30 |
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Play Ciri to give yourself a 15-20 point lead and watch the other player descend into indecisive anguish. Do they go down 2 more cards to win the round at huge card cost but deny you Ciri back? Or do they pass giving you the easy first round and also your Ciri back as card advantage. Bring along Roach's weak rear end for another 4 points unto the decision ledger.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 18:33 |
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Which Ciri? Regular gold Ciri? Ya boring 5 power Ciri.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 18:36 |
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Subvisual Haze posted:Play Ciri to give yourself a 15-20 point lead and watch the other player descend into indecisive anguish. Do they go down 2 more cards to win the round at huge card cost but deny you Ciri back? Or do they pass giving you the easy first round and also your Ciri back as card advantage. Bring along Roach's weak rear end for another 4 points unto the decision ledger. Uh other way around. Ciri returns to your hand when you LOSE the round.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 18:38 |
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Subvisual Haze posted:Play Ciri to give yourself a 15-20 point lead and watch the other player descend into indecisive anguish. Do they go down 2 more cards to win the round at huge card cost but deny you Ciri back? Or do they pass giving you the easy first round and also your Ciri back as card advantage. Bring along Roach's weak rear end for another 4 points unto the decision ledger. Regular Ciri is just the 5 points though so with Roach it's only 9 points on the board. Do you mean when you're already up a little bit because that makes sense. My problem with the Ciri/Roach combo is they take up precious spots from other cards that I prefer.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 18:39 |
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steakmancer posted:I want like a 20 power neutral spy that just draws the top card in your deck
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 18:40 |
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Regular Ciri is just the 5 points though so with Roach it's only 9 points on the board. Do you mean when you're already up a little bit because that makes sense. Yeah, once you understand what Ciri does related to card advantage and tempo the rest of the game just falls into place. The fact that she comes back into your hand (not just stays on the board) in a loss is enormous in making sure you have more cards in round 3 and can make the last play(s). She's like a spy that gives +5 to you instead of -10.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 18:47 |
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RatHat posted:Uh other way around. Ciri returns to your hand when you LOSE the round. Yes, that's the point. You play her while you're ahead, that way your opponent either needs to pass and hand you an easy win, or you throw the round next turn and come out with a 2 card advantage. You should almost never play ciri while behind on points. EvilMike fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Jun 21, 2017 |
# ? Jun 21, 2017 18:50 |
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I finally reached rank 11!! With that I think I can leave my NG Reveal deck, and try other things. Maybe some gimmick decks in casual mode. Or at least that was my plan. The reward for rank 11 is 4 kegs. The first gave me Morkvarg. The second Gremist. And the the third an Axeman (with that, now I have three). It's like the game is saying me to fall into temptation and do a SK deck like everyone else... Is this not-poo poo? Turin Turambar fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Jun 21, 2017 |
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I think the best feeling in this game, outside of beating the stupid bear deck, is when you go head to head against someone playing the same style deck and win. I'm 5-0 with my Consume deck against other Consume decks in ranked matches. Subvisual Haze posted:Yeah, once you understand what Ciri does related to card advantage and tempo the rest of the game just falls into place. The fact that she comes back into your hand (not just stays on the board) in a loss is enormous in making sure you have more cards in round 3 and can make the last play(s). Ahhh yea I see what you mean. Hmmm might need to test that out somewhat.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 18:55 |
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what sort of twisted freak plays drought and ragh nar roog
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 18:56 |
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Up Circle posted:what sort of twisted freak plays drought and ragh nar roog Someone who really likes pretty animations.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 19:04 |
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The Gorp posted:It prioritizes same-side swaps. you're full of poo poo
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 19:16 |
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Feeling pretty good about the ST deck I made yesterday that uses the move/boost archetype. Climbed 2 ranks to rank 8 after a shaky start this morning. Baby steps
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 19:25 |
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So my record for this patch with my old Queensguard deck is, 5-4 against Monsters, 2-0 against Nilfguard, 6-2 against Northern Realms. 3-2 against Scoia'tael and 5-20 against Skellige. What deck beats Kambi and axe men while having an ok time against Monsters? Since that accounts for 90% of the decks i am against i might as well focus on them.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 19:27 |
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CJ posted:So my record for this patch with my old Queensguard deck is, 5-4 against Monsters, 2-0 against Nilfguard, 6-2 against Northern Realms. 3-2 against Scoia'tael and 5-20 against Skellige. If you can get good with a specials deck that'll do it but it's a tricky thing to master. Also, consume decks can go toe to toe if you're careful with decent draws. Relentlessboredomm fucked around with this message at 20:01 on Jun 21, 2017 |
# ? Jun 21, 2017 19:47 |
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CJ posted:So my record for this patch with my old Queensguard deck is, 5-4 against Monsters, 2-0 against Nilfguard, 6-2 against Northern Realms. 3-2 against Scoia'tael and 5-20 against Skellige. Personally I like playing a weird dagon fog deck with more spells than normal, with the idea of teching against both monsters and skellege. Win about 4/5 against the former, 2/3 against the latter. The main reason I play it though is just to annoy skellege players by stealing morkvaarg or super buffed axemen. It's not the strongest option available, but it's worth it for the occasional time someone concedes the game in round 1 and doesn't send gg. The better players know how to get around this, but the thing about flavour of the week decks is that most of the people playing them are really bad at the game. Letho decks can also do funny things by banishing all their melee row, or by eating lord of undvik (banishing it won't trigger the graveyard effect). These kinds of decks are really hard to play well though.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 21:25 |
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EvilMike posted:Personally I like playing a weird dagon fog deck with more spells than normal, with the idea of teching against both monsters and skellege. Win about 4/5 against the former, 2/3 against the latter. The main reason I play it though is just to annoy skellege players by stealing morkvaarg or super buffed axemen. It's not the strongest option available, but it's worth it for the occasional time someone concedes the game in round 1 and doesn't send gg. The better players know how to get around this, but the thing about flavour of the week decks is that most of the people playing them are really bad at the game. Yeah I've been using letho+dbomb and it's pretty difficult to set up but is very satisfying when it's successful.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 21:40 |
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I've been using this Monsters consume deck to great success. The matchup against Dagon is a bit rough but it does really well against everyone else. The only issue I have with the deck is that sometimes you get screwed in the mulligan but usually it's fine. Also Grave hag is really underrated. RatHat fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Jun 21, 2017 |
# ? Jun 21, 2017 21:42 |
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 10:36 |
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I really wanted to play consume but Succubus being broken on consoles kinda throws that out the window.
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