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Rebellion got stripped of their podium because of that hole they were using to restart the engine.
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lmao Alex Brundle is now a podium finisher at the 24 Hours of Le Mans. Now that all needs to happen is for Alex to get a ride with Toyota and follow in his dad's footsteps 
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Jun 19, 2017 19:04
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njsykora posted:Rebellion got stripped of their podium because of that hole they were using to restart the engine. On one side, rules are rules, on the other, that was a nifty way of getting around the problem.
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Jun 19, 2017 19:30
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njsykora posted:Rebellion got stripped of their podium because of that hole they were using to restart the engine. That is the most letter vs spirit interpretation I have ever seen. And it's lovely. Dammit ACO, can you go at least one year without some bullshit ruling?
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Jun 19, 2017 19:35
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That's really retarded that they enforced that and doing so goes against the whole spirit of endurance racing imho
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Jun 19, 2017 19:38
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For the record, I am not going to rescore the competition. The ACO can eat a bag of dicks, again.
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Jun 19, 2017 19:46
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i like that if a dude had remembered to tape over the hole on the last stop, somehow that would have fixed everything in the ACO's eyes.
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Jun 19, 2017 19:58
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ACO dumb as gently caress? Check. Cutting a hole in the cover to get at the faulty starter is definitely suspect but I can't help but give bonus points for sheer ingenuity. The car did start under its own power and ran the whole race, it just needed a love tap on the starter to do it.
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Jun 19, 2017 20:52
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I remember someone posting about Rebellion pounding on stuff with a hammer during stops and it's now really cool and still funny.
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Jun 19, 2017 21:45
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1500quidporsche posted:I don't think it was for GT1 but didn't Porsche once argue that since they had the amount of cars necessary in parts that they met the homologation requirements? That was for the Porsche 917, and no they weren't able to successfully convince the FIA inspectors to homologate the car based on that. So Ferdinand Piech, the James Bond villain that he is, ordered his mechanics to work around the clock to build the 25 cars, which he then parked outside the company headquarters for the inspectors' next visit a month later. Apparently he offered the inspector the opportunity to drive any of the cars in the lineup, but it was declined. 
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Jun 20, 2017 02:13
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Schlesische posted:Aston Martin has been running a Vantage since like 2011 (and they also entered with one in 2009). It's been updated to take full advantage of shifting regulations during that time, but it's been the same platform the whole way through. Next year the platform changes to the replacement for the Vantage which is yet to be unveiled. Some lower-tier non-works Astons will still be the current Vantage because money. The giant gently caress-off diffuser version was new for last year is what I meant.
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Jun 20, 2017 04:10
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drgitlin posted:The giant gently caress-off diffuser version was new for last year is what I meant. So was the escape hatch and a couple other things because of the regulation changes, but while others made new cars, Aston's is just a revision of the current AFAIK. The biggest change for them is the partnership with Dunlop, which is why I had them tabbed to take class this year.
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Jun 20, 2017 10:43
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MrChips posted:That was for the Porsche 917, and no they weren't able to successfully convince the FIA inspectors to homologate the car based on that. So Ferdinand Piech, the James Bond villain that he is, ordered his mechanics to work around the clock to build the 25 cars, which he then parked outside the company headquarters for the inspectors' next visit a month later. Apparently he offered the inspector the opportunity to drive any of the cars in the lineup, but it was declined.
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Jun 20, 2017 11:19
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Robby Gordon got banned from racing in Austrailia for his SST stunt. So either there's no SST races in Austrailia next year or Robby just doesn't drive in them. I do find it quite funny that the only guys he asked for permission were a pair of nightclub bouncers though.
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Jun 20, 2017 11:30
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You do doughnuts in an unlicenced, non-road compliant vehicle on public roads I don't think there's many countries that wouldn't throw the book at you.
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Jun 20, 2017 13:29
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€1000 (apparently) fine for a thumbs up, and an apology:Vincent Capillaire posted:Saturday evening, during the race, I was waiting for my relay, helmet on the head at my box.
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Jun 20, 2017 13:56
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The ACO/FIA is the least of his worries. Not too many places in the world that you can hide from yakuza.
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Jun 20, 2017 14:22
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Wirth1000 posted:The ACO/FIA is the least of his worries. He's never going to step foot in Nagoya ever again. He might not make it to Fuji Speedway if he's racing in the WEC.
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Jun 20, 2017 15:20
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IIRC the Yakuza has pretty strict rules against murdering foreigners because of the attention it would inevitably draw upon their connections to local politicians
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Jun 20, 2017 15:32
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VikingSkull posted:IIRC the Yakuza has pretty strict rules against murdering foreigners because of the attention it would inevitably draw upon their connections to local politicians Toyota has enough funds to override the risk to profit ratio for the Yakuza. 2018 Le Mans prediction: Toyota curse strikes again when they finally win but are DSQ'ed because they've been indicted in the charge of hiring numerous Yakuza to literally murder the rest of the LMP1 class the night before the race.
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Jun 20, 2017 16:05
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Xisticide posted:€1000 (apparently) fine for a thumbs up, and an apology: https://streamable.com/kvdca Fair call, imo
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Jun 20, 2017 20:29
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What if Toyota enter all the cars in next year's Le Mans?
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Wirth1000 posted:Toyota has enough funds to override the risk to profit ratio for the Yakuza.
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Jun 20, 2017 22:12
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julian assflange posted:What if Toyota enter all the cars in next year's Le Mans? Welcome to the first 8 Hours of Le Mans!
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Jun 20, 2017 22:23
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I would find it pretty funny if Toyota just added another car every time they failed to win. Might be the only way you get the LMP1 field into double digits.
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Jun 20, 2017 22:50
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I just remembered that Audi turned down Penske who wanted to run their cars at Lemans, and assuming they didnt break, they probably would have won. lol I know its all theoretical but im here to say: Juan would have won the triple crown if audi werent wussies about their """"BRAND""""
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Jun 20, 2017 23:00
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Cygni posted:I just remembered that Audi turned down Penske who wanted to run their cars at Lemans, and assuming they didnt break, they probably would have won. lol That same thought hit me last night. We'd of seriously had a "privateer" win P1 and JPM get his.
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Jun 21, 2017 02:10
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Wasn't Audi's shift to all-electric racing a VW group decision? I'd love to see more factories in LMP1 but Merc and Ferrari are both focused on F1 so who's left after that? I'd get very, very excited about an LMP1 with the McLaren P1 power train and sound but after their recent F1 efforts they have enough problems.
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Jun 21, 2017 03:24
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I can sort of see Nissan and GM trying (probably under a non-Chevy marque), given both of them are focused on electrics. Maybe Honda but they have bigger fish to fry right now over in F1. Ford has minimal interest in hybrids outside of legal reqs. Mind you, both of those also have DPi programs which are a substantial fraction of the cost of an LMP1 program.
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Jun 21, 2017 03:38
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The only other companies that *might* give a poo poo are Peugeot and Renault, but Renault is busy with F1 and Peugeot is busy making the blandest cars known to mankind and don't really feel like sexying up their image at all (they can't afford it).
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Jun 21, 2017 04:55
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Peugeot just needs to bring back the 205.
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Shumagorath posted:Wasn't Audi's shift to all-electric racing a VW group decision? I'd love to see more factories in LMP1 but Merc and Ferrari are both focused on F1 so who's left after that? I'd get very, very excited about an LMP1 with the McLaren P1 power train and sound but after their recent F1 efforts they have enough problems. Audi was always going to join in Formula E apparently, according to plans, but it's very minimal involvement and investment at this point. Cutting the WEC team was to attempt to get rid of a ~$200-250 million/year program; the Formula E program is probably less than $10m including activation. As well, a rumor/story was that VAG could approve of both Audi and Porsche being in LMP1 because one was using gasoline and the other diesel. With the diesel engines having such a negative image, they couldn't afford doing that, and weren't "allowed" to develop a new engine to continue in the WEC. Dieselgate is going to cost VAG a tooooooooooooooon of money. Billions of dollars. I'm sure it's a reason why the Porsche LMP1 program is being rumored too. --- Peugeot remains the rumored company to join the WEC and Le Mans, and considering Renault is in F1 and Peugeot has great history at the 24 (and is French...) you have to think they'll come. Nissan may increase their involvement, Honda has been rumored, I would love to see Mazda come back but I think they're focused on IMSA and American junior series at this point, which means Japan isn't interested at all. And who knows, if Porsche leaves (or cuts the Prototype program but keeps their GTE program) I wouldn't be shocked to see Audi push to come back into Prototype racing. The 24 became massive for the Audi brand.
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Cygni posted:I just remembered that Audi turned down Penske who wanted to run their cars at Lemans, and assuming they didnt break, they probably would have won. lol I was messaging some Audi friends while at Le Mans and almost said exactly the same. Then realized how insensitive it would be because they were both really bummed about the death of the LMP1 program and not being there. harperdc posted:Audi was always going to join in Formula E apparently, according to plans, but it's very minimal involvement and investment at this point. Cutting the WEC team was to attempt to get rid of a ~$200-250 million/year program; the Formula E program is probably less than $10m including activation. Yeah, there was no way politically they could pour hundreds of millions of euros a year into a racing program that was diesel-powered when diesel engines are going to cost the company billions and billions in fines and lost revenue. drgitlin fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Jun 21, 2017 |
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Jun 21, 2017 19:34
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When's the last time Audi ran a major program without Team Joest?
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Jun 21, 2017 20:12
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I am going to laugh hysterically if Honda joins.
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Jun 21, 2017 22:22
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They won't because they don't have any engineers.
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Jun 21, 2017 22:27
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Honda are struggling right now to make racecar engines that last 2 hours let alone 6 or 24.
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Jun 21, 2017 22:30
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There's absolutely no question in my mind that Honda will enter Le Mans, Alonso won't join them, and they will have no reliability issues whatsoever.
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harperdc posted:Peugeot remains the rumored company to join the WEC and Le Mans, and considering Renault is in F1 and Peugeot has great history at the 24 (and is French...) you have to think they'll come. Nissan may increase their involvement, Honda has been rumored, I would love to see Mazda come back but I think they're focused on IMSA and American junior series at this point, which means Japan isn't interested at all. And who knows, if Porsche leaves (or cuts the Prototype program but keeps their GTE program) I wouldn't be shocked to see Audi push to come back into Prototype racing. The 24 became massive for the Audi brand. Peugeot straight up can't afford it under the current "Manufacturers must be Hybrid" rules and definitely can't afford it under the coming 2020 rules, Nissan doesn't have a clue how to go about approaching it and their involvement would be a bit of a joke although Renault might help out a bunch, Honda is Honda (although the Electric finish stuff would likely have piqued their interest, they're definitely focused on F1 for now) and if Porsche leaves (again), VAG is out for a few years. If Porsche leaves, LMP1 is in real trouble. There is no one there to take over unless they undertake a massive overhaul of the rules. I don't honestly think Porsche will leave LMP1.
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