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IRQ posted:It's like they don't even realize what happens now. It's pretty drat hard to SLAPP a company as rich as HBO. It's also safe to believe that HBO's lawyers checked every word that Oliver said in order to make sure that any lawsuit would be rejected.
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I was wondering if there was a legal drive behind ramping up the satire to ultrawhimsical levels in this segment. Any jury would see this and categorize it as satirical. More, each fact was presented with citation to publicly-available information outlets.
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Jun 22, 2017 17:48
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You don't sue to win actually money, you sue to extort smoeone into just settling so that they don't have to go through a long legal deal. HBO lawyers might not give a gently caress though so... 
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I was watching the Georgia special election results count and was just wondering if someone more versed in US politics could answer a small query; namely that the election was called at 52/48 with only 81% of the vote apparently counted. Which seems...weird. I'm assuming someone counted the rest of the votes regardless and they didn't counter-act the apparent result, but why was it called so early when the remaining 19% could surely make up a 4 point difference?
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Jun 22, 2017 17:54
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tsob posted:I was watching the Georgia special election results count and was just wondering if someone more versed in US politics could answer a small query; namely that the election was called at 52/48 with only 81% of the vote apparently counted. Which seems...weird. I'm assuming someone counted the rest of the votes regardless and they didn't counter-act the apparent result, but why was it called so early when the remaining 19% could surely make up a 4 point difference? We know where everyone lives and how they are most likely to vote so we can project easily how the remaining 19% will vote based on the previous 81%
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tsob posted:I was watching the Georgia special election results count and was just wondering if someone more versed in US politics could answer a small query; namely that the election was called at 52/48 with only 81% of the vote apparently counted. Which seems...weird. I'm assuming someone counted the rest of the votes regardless and they didn't counter-act the apparent result, but why was it called so early when the remaining 19% could surely make up a 4 point difference? In theory it could, but in this situation it "could" on the level that Trump could fire his entire staff and let Bernie run the country.
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Veskit posted:You don't sue to win actually money, you sue to extort smoeone into just settling so that they don't have to go through a long legal deal. HBO lawyers might not give a gently caress though so... Murray has a weird combo of cynical foresight and incompetent lawyers. He's personally bankrolled the election of every judge in his county to benefit his lawsuits but his lawyers keep filing for amounts that automatically trigger a change of venue from county court to federal as long as one party asks for it. As such he's lost like 95% of his lawsuits in summary judgement. In the case of the Huffpo lawsuit, if his lawyers filed for $1 less they would have kept the trial in his home county.
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Veskit posted:HBO lawyers might not give a gently caress though so... If anything HBO lawyers probably has the most fucks to give of them all.
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Jun 22, 2017 18:49
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The system works, unless it doesn't.
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I like how they also shoehorned Hillary Clinton into the indictment. Because that's obviously an important point.Invalid Validation posted:I hope it's because of black lung. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiopathic_pulmonary_fibrosis#Causes quote:Cigarette smoking is the best recognized and most accepted risk factor for IPF, and increases the risk of IPF by about twofold.[11] Other environmental and occupation exposures such as exposure to metal dust, wood dust, coal dust, silica, stone dust, biologic dusts... 
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Jun 22, 2017 19:12
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tsob posted:I was watching the Georgia special election results count and was just wondering if someone more versed in US politics could answer a small query; namely that the election was called at 52/48 with only 81% of the vote apparently counted. Which seems...weird. I'm assuming someone counted the rest of the votes regardless and they didn't counter-act the apparent result, but why was it called so early when the remaining 19% could surely make up a 4 point difference? In addition to what other people said, the percentage of the district in isn't 81% of votes, but 81% of precincts in the district. Given that Georgia's 6th District covers parts of 3 counties, and the only one of the 3 that majority voted for Ossoff also had the least votes, the precincts remaining unreported at 81% of reported likely were in Republican leaning/controlled areas.
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So they did sue Joh, huh. I'm not quite sure what makes them think that picking a legal fight with Time Warner is a good idea, this is basically bringing piss to a poo poo fight.
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tsob posted:I was watching the Georgia special election results count and was just wondering if someone more versed in US politics could answer a small query; namely that the election was called at 52/48 with only 81% of the vote apparently counted. Which seems...weird. I'm assuming someone counted the rest of the votes regardless and they didn't counter-act the apparent result, but why was it called so early when the remaining 19% could surely make up a 4 point difference? Compare that to the virtual lack of national coverage of the New Jersey gubernatorial primary to replace Chris Christie. Also, John Oliver was probably the only guy who took any interest in the UK election, which I thought should have been way more interesting across the pond... compared to the French election which did get quite a lot of interest in the US.
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Echo Chamber posted:As an American, I thought that election was totally overblown by pundits and traditional partisans who believe RESIST means merely throwing money at any Democratic candidate. The Montana race should have been a sign that people shouldn't have put a lot of eggs in one basket. The big difference is the French election involved literal fascists, while the UK election was the same old poo poo. People were concerned France was about to pick up a ticket to crazy town, while the UK was expected to keep on sinking in poo poo.
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Echo Chamber posted:Also, John Oliver was probably the only guy who took any interest in the UK election, which I thought should have been way more interesting across the pond... compared to the French election which did get quite a lot of interest in the US. US news smelled it for "Brexit Vote Part II", found it wasn't quite that sensational, and walked away. Also we don't understand parliaments and multi-party coalitions and minority governments and confidence votes. That poo poo is weird. We know it'll probably never get TOO out of hand because any policy to stoke hatred around the world isn't going to happen because it would cause a constitutional crisis when it doesn't get royal ascent, and then and only THEN would we be interested. I don't know if you've noticed, but countries led by offices of a Presidency are turning into flaming shitburgers, so France is our closer brother in democracy.
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Eat poo poo, Bob.
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It's fun to watch a story like this unfurl. Check out this wealthy CEO on Fox whine about being picked on by an elitist. Also notable is that he's very vague about what exactly he's suing over. I guess it's unproductive for his ends to provide any real information. According to CBS, he's suing Last Night Week for not mentioning the fact that Murray helped with the rescue and cleanup for that mining collapse that he probably caused, as if that makes a difference. He's also complaining that John Oliver made childish insults at him, but thankfully that is a right enshrined in our nation unlike say, Turkey. So yeah, eat poo poo Bob.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Murray has a weird combo of cynical foresight and incompetent lawyers. He's personally bankrolled the election of every judge in his county to benefit his lawsuits but his lawyers keep filing for amounts that automatically trigger a change of venue from county court to federal as long as one party asks for it. As such he's lost like 95% of his lawsuits in summary judgement. In the case of the Huffpo lawsuit, if his lawyers filed for $1 less they would have kept the trial in his home county. Maybe they don't actually like or want Murray to succeed and know Murray is not legally versed enough to figure out their trick? It's a silly theory but we live in a stupid world and I like to believe sometimes the stupid is actually for a good cause.
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No one should check out a Stuart Varney segment. Ever. That guy is outraged that the poorest 20% of the country gets to eat.
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I've always described Stuart Varney as a Charles Dickens character.
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STAC Goat posted:I've always described Stuart Varney as a Charles Dickens character. Only less easy to believe that he actually exists.
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STAC Goat posted:I've always described Stuart Varney as a Charles Dickens character. Seems pretty unfair to Charles Dickens characters.
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I like how Murray called John Oliver an elitist and noted that he has a $10 million apartment in New York, like he himself is a man of the people who lives in a modest abode. Never mind that a quick Google shows he has at least two houses in seperate states, both of which look like they're worth a few million and of which it's easily conceivable both are worth more than $10 million apiece, depending on the size of the grounds, location etc.
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tsob posted:I like how Murray called John Oliver an elitist and noted that he has a €10 million apartment in New York, like he himself is a man of the people who lives in a modest abode. Never mind that a quick Google shows he has at least two houses in seperate states, both of which look like they're worth a few million and of which it's easily conceivable both are worth more than €10 million apiece, depending on the size of the grounds, location etc.
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tsob posted:I like how Murray called John Oliver an elitist and noted that he has a $10 million apartment in New York, like he himself is a man of the people who lives in a modest abode. Never mind that a quick Google shows he has at least two houses in seperate states, both of which look like they're worth a few million and of which it's easily conceivable both are worth more than $10 million apiece, depending on the size of the grounds, location etc.
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Nobody who likes progressive and "progressive" millionaire celebrities and/or politicians really cares that they're rich. We just care when rich people want to make themselves beyond rich or stay beyond rich at the expense of the livelihood or mortality of the lower classes. I'd be happy if rich people were just less rich to raise the quality of life for the rest of us a bit. They could stay relatively rich, just dial it back a bit. You don't have to have, and keep, literally all the loving wealth in the entire world you goddamn monsters.
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But if their are no 'have nots' how will we know whom the 'haves' are?
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tsob posted:I like how Murray called John Oliver an elitist and noted that he has a $10 million apartment in New York, like he himself is a man of the people who lives in a modest abode. Never mind that a quick Google shows he has at least two houses in seperate states, both of which look like they're worth a few million and of which it's easily conceivable both are worth more than $10 million apiece, depending on the size of the grounds, location etc. The assessed values for those properties are ~$3m combined from a quick Google search, so I wouldn't say $10m each, but your point still stands.
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All these people living in expensive houses! If a house costs $500,000 the person buying it should be making $500,001 or more per year! That's just fiscal responsibility*! * if you're a loving geriatric moron who hasn't had to worry about money for the past few decades and has forgotten how banks work for 'the rest of us.'
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The worst part about anti-elitist movements is how many elites are at the head of them.
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SlothfulCobra posted:The worst part about anti-elitist movements is how many elites are at the head of them. I'm convinced the only reason shows like "The Wall" exist is so super-rich people can host parties where they laugh their asses off over people going loving nuts on what they spend every week on transportation.
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SlothfulCobra posted:The worst part about anti-elitist movements is how many elites are at the head of them. Yeah it's not like the upper class pitting the lower class against itself while they bleed them dry is a new tactic.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:But if their are no 'have nots' how will we know whom the 'haves' are? Well when we start eating the 'haves' I'm sure we'll notice the taste difference, placebo effect maybe, like drinking poo poo wine rebottled into expensive labels.
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M_Gargantua posted:Well when we start eating the 'haves' I'm sure we'll notice the taste difference, placebo effect maybe, like drinking poo poo wine rebottled into expensive labels. Don't eat your comrades, for they may be carrying hot sauce to make the bourgeoisie more palatable.
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At what point does the LWT team decide to drop half the awful jokes and add another 20 minutes of actual content to make for a full hour of show. I'm getting tired of the format only allowing for the one key piece when there's a dozen other things that could benefit from 2-3 minutes a piece. Also most of the jokes make it unwatchable to anyone who otherwise isn't already a fan. Trying to use olivers segments to convince red hats (or just a regular conservative) the actual journalism is undercut by the non-sequitors
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I'm both surprised that this show hasn't covered vaccines before, and sad that we still need to talk about this in 2017.
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What do trains run on anyways? Coal. Makes you think.
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M_Gargantua posted:At what point does the LWT team decide to drop half the awful jokes and add another 20 minutes of actual content to make for a full hour of show. I'm getting tired of the format only allowing for the one key piece when there's a dozen other things that could benefit from 2-3 minutes a piece. Also most of the jokes make it unwatchable to anyone who otherwise isn't already a fan. Trying to use olivers segments to convince red hats (or just a regular conservative) the actual journalism is undercut by the non-sequitors Expanding the show isn't so easy as cutting jokes or adding to the run time. Oliver's mentioned in interviews that a lot of the show's budget goes into research and background work. Doing additional long-form story segments would mean losing some amount of depth from each one, and Oliver prefers the laser focus on a single topic per week. As for broadening the appeal, no. No, no, no. People have been saying this in one form or another since Jon Stewart created the modern Daily Show and that's not how it works. These shows are entertainment first and foremost. Asking John—a comedian—to become a full-time investigative journalist is missing the point. When the satirists are doing better news than the actual newsmen, you do not point to them and say "do less comedy and more news." You turn to the newsmen and say "get off your asses and stop getting upstaged by that poncy British wharf-rat."
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