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and 1.5MM is way the gently caress off for jumbo. coyotes fans wanted him at 2x10MM or something ridiculous before we had stepan because we had a shipping container of money to spend to hit the cap floor. now we only have like 5MM left to go so who knows
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OldSenileGuy posted:I can't decide how I'd feel about them signing Joe Thornton to something like 1 year at 2 million or 2 years at 1.5 million. Yeah, he's old as gently caress, but that's Tanner Glass money and he'd still be an upgrade on Tanner Glass. lol
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OldSenileGuy posted:I can't decide how I'd feel about them signing Joe Thornton to something like 1 year at 2 million or 2 years at 1.5 million. Yeah, he's old as gently caress, but that's Tanner Glass money and he'd still be an upgrade on Tanner Glass. Are you drunk? Joe Thornton isn't signing for anything remotely close to that price.
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Jun 25, 2017 20:01
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Yeah no thanks. I still have Dan Boyle PTSD.
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Jun 25, 2017 20:02
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i want to live in the unfathomable world where joe thornton takes 1.5m a year on his next deal. maybe after that, i could be brave enough to dip my toes into the world where he decides to do it for the new york rangers he's still producing at 5v5 like a 2c still and his fancies are as usual real drat good. i hope he does want to ring chase on the cheap, and i hope he signs a two million dollar contract to center the pens third line next year
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OldSenileGuy posted:I can't decide how I'd feel about them signing Joe Thornton to something like 1 year at 2 million or 2 years at 1.5 million. Yeah, he's old as gently caress, but that's Tanner Glass money and he'd still be an upgrade on Tanner Glass. IDK how I feel about signing a HHOF franchise centre still very capable of playing productive top line minutes for replacement player salary. Is he more valuable than arguably the worst player in the league? Hard to say. On a similar note I am looking at buying a new car. I am thinking about a 1962 Jaguar E type but I don't know if I want to pay more than $6000 for is. I'm not sure it's much of an upgrade on my 2002 Pontiac Aztec. ThinkTank fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Jun 25, 2017 |
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Jun 25, 2017 20:05
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He's still not worth a 3 year contract which is the rumored ask.
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Jun 25, 2017 20:11
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ThinkTank posted:IDK how I feel about signing a HHOF franchise centre still very capable of playing productive top line minutes for replacement player salary. Is he more valuable than arguably the worst player in the league? Hard to say. How many 2x4s can you fit in an E type?
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Jun 25, 2017 20:13
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Thornton and Marleau will sign with the Pens to form their next cup winning 3rd line.
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Jun 25, 2017 20:28
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Jordan7hm posted:The Penguins trade was bad but he didn't really get traded for a first rounder in the normal sense. He got traded for Sundqvist and the Pens had to drop 20 spots in a draft where they were going off the board anyway to make up the difference in value. This is pretty much where I'm at with it. If they were going to go way off board with their pick anyways, then moving down is fine. As for Sundqvist, I thought he looked like dog poo poo in his call-ups this year, but I did like the way he played when called up last year. I think there's some potential for him to become a good 4c. And I will enjoy Reaves smashing Dubinsky and Wilson in the face the moment they look at Crosby the wrong way.
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Jun 25, 2017 20:35
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The weird thing about Reaves is that he isn't noticeably bad. You'll definitely notice him charging across the ice to lay a hit and to forecheck well sometimes, but his underlying numbers are terrible. You're not gonna say "GODDAMMIT REAVES" as he turns the puck over often, but that's probably because he rarely has the puck to begin with.
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Ginette Reno posted:This is pretty much where I'm at with it. If they were going to go way off board with their pick anyways, then moving down is fine. As for Sundqvist, I thought he looked like dog poo poo in his call-ups this year, but I did like the way he played when called up last year. I think there's some potential for him to become a good 4c. You don't trade for punchmen, you sign them to a league minimum deal in the offseason. You sure as poo poo don't trade assets to get one who is, by all accounts, a horrible hockey player. gently caress, you're trading away a young player (even if he is a middling prospect) and dropping 20 spots in the draft and Ryan Reaves is the best guy you can get in return? The trade was stupid, illogical and indefensible on every level and in every conceivable way.
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Jun 25, 2017 20:47
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grack posted:You don't trade for punchmen, you sign them to a league minimum deal in the offseason. I'm not defending it as a good move, I'm just saying I'm okay with it. It's not gonna kill the Penguins.
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Jun 25, 2017 20:52
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Right up until Reaves tries to elbow someone, they duck and he takes Crosby's head clean off instead. Note: This is much more likely to happen than Reaves contributing in any meaningful way.
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Mike_V posted:The weird thing about Reaves is that he isn't noticeably bad. You'll definitely notice him charging across the ice to lay a hit and to forecheck well sometimes, but his underlying numbers are terrible. You're not gonna say "GODDAMMIT REAVES" as he turns the puck over often, but that's probably because he rarely has the puck to begin with. You just wait until Mike Sullivan gets a hold of him!
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Jun 25, 2017 21:06
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Yes I'm sure whatever team signs 38 year old Joe Thornton to a 3 year $14 million dollar deal is going to be thrilled
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Hip Now and Wow! posted:Not that specifically, but all the other times where penguin take cheap- shots. The idea is that the threat of a caveman immediately pounding you into the ice is a deterrent to stop you from punching Guentzel in the head 30 seconds after the whistle, or implementing a game plan to run the Pens goalie as often as possible. This never ever ever ever works NHL players aren't scared of someone like Reaves exacting retribution for some poo poo, not with the instigator being a thing. The whole deterrence thing is a myth, but players will say "oh but I feel safer" but there is no difference. Plus most of the shitheads that will really run a guy would then be more than happy to get into a fight afterwards. Their whole existence in the NHL is to not be afraid of fighting other guys like them hifi posted:this was sort of my thought. why was everyone in such a rush to trade stepan His contract and cap space and he has a NMC that kicks in July 1st Also speculation they're a little worried his game is starting to decline.
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OldSenileGuy posted:Yes I'm sure whatever team signs 38 year old Joe Thornton to a 3 year $14 million dollar deal is going to be thrilled for 2 years of it, yeah.
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OldSenileGuy posted:Yes I'm sure whatever team signs 38 year old Joe Thornton to a 3 year $14 million dollar deal is going to be thrilled Sounds pretty reasonable for a guy who's gonna put up at least 50 pts against tough competition
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Jun 25, 2017 21:30
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didnt thornton lose like his entire right knee?
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https://twitter.com/jasondemers5/status/879019094732754945
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Aye Doc posted:i want to live in the unfathomable world where joe thornton takes 1.5m a year on his next deal. maybe after that, i could be brave enough to dip my toes into the world where he decides to do it for the new york rangers same. depending on what kind of contracts they sign their RFAs to and how much they cheap out on other depth positions the pens might not even need him to take a discount, what with having $19 million in cap space. schultz, dumoulin, and sheary will probably suck up half of that, give or take, and then after that they've basically only need bottom pairing defensemen and bottom six centers
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Levitate posted:His contract and cap space and he has a NMC that kicks in July 1st Yeah those all make sense, but I thought they'd be going for it instead of trying to pull off the magic trade all your decent secondary pieces away and continue to get better move like the hawks have only been able to do so far
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OldSenileGuy posted:Yes I'm sure whatever team signs 38 year old Joe Thornton to a 3 year $14 million dollar deal is going to be thrilled More realistic than him signing with a non-contender like the Rangers for 2M/year.
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hifi posted:Yeah those all make sense, but I thought they'd be going for it instead of trying to pull off the magic trade all your decent secondary pieces away and continue to get better move like the hawks have only been able to do so far I think at this point the go for it stuff already happened the last 4 years of trading away 1sts and 2nds like they're candy in order to get Hank his cup. I think Torton sees the writing on the wall and tbh, if Hank doesn't like it, he can kick rocks.
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grack posted:More realistic than him signing with a non-contender like the Rangers for 2M/year. I don't dispute this. At this point Thornton's in the "sign cheap with a contender to try to win a Cup" phase of his career. If the Rangers can convince him that they're still contenders (doubtful unless there's a lot of moves coming), I'd love to have him short term at that price.
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Levitate posted:This never ever ever ever works TBH I agree that enforcers are pretty much there for show. I'm more worried about speed than if a 4th line winger that plays 8 minutes is going to have any impact because he hits hard or not, and from what I have read, Reaves is not exactly known for his skating prowess. I suppose it's possible that he could legitimately be a 4th liner, one that just happens to also fight. Considering his stats from last year, it certainly seems that may possibly. Be what he is shooting for.
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It's nice that ESPN is finally moving away from physical prime athletes and including some gross ones.
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Burn's rear end is so loving pale lol
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Oh hawks
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yall are really concerned about who is going to play 4th line for a team whose biggest obstacle to a 3rd straight Stanley Cup is fatigue
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ElwoodCuse posted:yall are really concerned about who is going to play 4th line for a team whose biggest obstacle to a 3rd straight Stanley Cup is fatigue Crosby's arms are tired from lifting the cup so much
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Ginette Reno posted:Crosby's arms are tired from lifting the cup so much It's hard work lugging that thing around rite aid and diners all day.
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Jun 26, 2017 00:28
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People are mad that Penguins fans aren't mad enough.
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please let some team do something so i can stop hearing about ryan reaves
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let me tell you about teams that win stanley cups then make monumentally stupid personnel decisions
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who''s hyped for the FREE AGENT FRENZY
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https://twitter.com/Bob_Stauffer/status/879103616061132800 Sounds like a good combination with chakra
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