|
Any thoughts on the Samsung Frame TV from the information available so far? I love the idea of industrial design other than a black rectangle, so this looks great to me. https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/6/16/15816296/samsung-frame-tv-will-start-at-2000
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2017 06:09
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 23, 2024 22:23 |
|
|
Fetko posted:I need some help getting Netflix to play HDR from my shield TV. What are you trying to play? Not much of Netflix's 4k content is in HDR. You should really be using the internal TV app for Netflix HDR anyways. Netflix has all their HDR content available in Dolby Vision which the Shield can't do.
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2017 06:16
|
|
|
bull3964 posted:What are you trying to play? Not much of Netflix's 4k content is in HDR. So, looks like it was a combination of content and being confused by the tags in the Netflix app. The new Orange is the New Black season is the first thing I'm watching through Netflix on the shield and i was assuming it was HDR. That combined with the picture from the link below showing an HDR tag made me think nothing was coming up. Just started Luke Cage and it is playing in HDR. Not tagged as HDR in the menu though. Thanks bull! Link: https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/992021/shield-tv/hdr-not-working-in-netflix/post/5077509/#5077509
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2017 06:32
|
|
|
Kobayashi posted:Any thoughts on the Samsung Frame TV from the information available so far? I love the idea of industrial design other than a black rectangle, so this looks great to me. I think it looks quite nice. According to CNet though, it's roughly a $700-1000 premium on the screen, plus another $200 if you want a non-black bezel. Hard for me to justify that kind of premium when the superior LG OLED screen is the same price, but whatever floats your boat.
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2017 12:29
|
|
|
Edit: never mind
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2017 13:02
|
|
|
tk posted:I think it looks quite nice. According to CNet though, it's roughly a $700-1000 premium on the screen, plus another $200 if you want a non-black bezel. Hard for me to justify that kind of premium when the superior LG OLED screen is the same price, but whatever floats your boat. Yeah it's stylish but it seems like kind of a gimmick. It's not like anybody is going to have any trouble figuring out that it's a big gently caress-off television on your wall instead of a 65 inch illuminated print of waterlillies or something.
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2017 14:02
|
|
|
I picked up a Vizio m65e0, is there really only 1 port that does HDR? I have my Xbox one s plugged into HDMI 2 but I have no option to set the Full UHD color setting. I couldn't find the answer in the manual or googling.
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2017 16:27
|
|
|
How are the current batch of OLEDs for gaming? Do they have noticeable input lag? I've had my Pioneer Plasma for like 8 years now, and I'm ready to upgrade, but at this point the next TV Im gonna buy will be OLED for sure. If the tech isn't there yet, I'll just wait another year or two.
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2017 19:08
|
|
|
Megasabin posted:How are the current batch of OLEDs for gaming? Do they have noticeable input lag? I've had my Pioneer Plasma for like 8 years now, and I'm ready to upgrade, but at this point the next TV Im gonna buy will be OLED for sure. If the tech isn't there yet, I'll just wait another year or two. They mostly fixed input lag on the 2016 lg oleds. The 2017 lg oled is a little bit better, input lag wise, than the 2016 but not enough to make it worth it to pay $500-$700 more for the 2017 model over the 2016 models.
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2017 19:21
|
|
|
Ahhh why is this so hard to google, don't suppose anyone has a quick answer on how to remove the legs/stand from a ks8000 purty please? Moving out and trying to get it back in the box E: In usual fashion just had to post about it to figure it out, just had to get the right angle to pry it out with a flathead teh_Broseph fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Jun 23, 2017 |
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 16:03
|
|
|
Kobayashi posted:Any thoughts on the Samsung Frame TV from the information available so far? I love the idea of industrial design other than a black rectangle, so this looks great to me. cant wait to see people hang this yet not put in the effort to put the wires in the wall to me, the oled is more stunning due to how thin it is
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 17:01
|
|
|
sellouts posted:cant wait to see people hang this yet not put in the effort to put the wires in the wall Yeah, it still blows my mind. I bought a U-Haul TV moving box the other day and the corner foam's smallest opening is like 2"... yeah the OLED is 0.25" thick at the top, time to redesign your stuff. (Luckily it got moved safe and sound, phew).
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 17:08
|
|
|
sellouts posted:cant wait to see people hang this yet not put in the effort to put the wires in the wall If its like the LG you CANT legally put the wires in the wall. EDIT: all their promo material shows the wire ON the wall so im pretty sure its the same.
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 17:26
|
|
|
If you really wanted that look just get some wood trim and box in around your TV. Just don't block the vents or IR sensor for the remote. I guess you have to not suck at woodworking to make it not horrible looking too.
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 17:39
|
|
|
teh_Broseph posted:Ahhh why is this so hard to google, don't suppose anyone has a quick answer on how to remove the legs/stand from a ks8000 purty please? Moving out and trying to get it back in the box I had the same issue, those legs are pretty hard to remove
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 19:50
|
|
|
Sharp, now under Foxconn ownership, is said to start making their own OLED panels next year. https://www.engadget.com/amp/2017/06/23/sharp-oled-tv-rumor/ Good. The LG stuff is good, but having competition is always nice.
|
|
#
?
Jun 24, 2017 05:28
|
|
|
Yeah the more people making panels the better. Only downside following my move is that I now sit about 12 feet away from my TV, and 65" is feeling small. Curse you $15k 77" model (although I'm sure the model from the other year was about $10k more. Progress!)
|
|
#
?
Jun 24, 2017 05:31
|
|
|
I have some small hope that if more people are making panels, we might get some smaller OLED TV's. I would love to have a 40 incher in my bedroom.
|
|
#
?
Jun 24, 2017 06:02
|
|
|
I mean surely OLED will eventually wipe out LCD except for the budget market? Samsung can't keep leaving that money on the table.
|
|
#
?
Jun 24, 2017 20:03
|
|
|
I don't think Samsung is leaving any money on the table when they are charging 1.5x OLED money for gussied up LED backlit LCDs.
|
|
#
?
Jun 24, 2017 20:16
|
|
|
Yeah but I don't imagine that's the bulk of what they sell or that they're doing well in that price range? I honestly have no data to back that up but you'd think people who do any amount of research before purchase and are spending 1500+ would mostly be buying OLED.
|
|
#
?
Jun 24, 2017 21:08
|
|
|
Dogen posted:Yeah but I don't imagine that's the bulk of what they sell or that they're doing well in that price range? I honestly have no data to back that up but you'd think people who do any amount of research before purchase and are spending 1500+ would mostly be buying OLED. Don't read any Dolby Vision vs HDR10 arguments.
|
|
#
?
Jun 24, 2017 21:16
|
|
|
I bought a x930e my first ever "expensive" tv. Hope I don't regret it. Going from a year old ks6300 that I can't loving stand. Fell for fake hdr marketing on that one
|
|
#
?
Jun 24, 2017 22:51
|
|
|
bull3964 posted:Don't read any Dolby Vision vs HDR10 arguments. I mean the only argument against it is that it's proprietary, I think. It seems better in every other respect.
|
|
#
?
Jun 24, 2017 23:34
|
|
|
Dogen posted:I mean the only argument against it is that it's proprietary, I think. It seems better in every other respect. What I meant was there's a large subset of supporters of Samsung's high end TVs because OLEDs "don't get bright enough" to do HDR10 properly and that Dolby Vision is a crutch for garbage TVs.
|
|
#
?
Jun 24, 2017 23:40
|
|
|
That's cognitive dissonance for you, I guess.
|
|
#
?
Jun 24, 2017 23:56
|
|
|
Don't get me wrong I love my KS8000 and for the size and at the price point I paid I would have had to buy three times the television to get into an OLED but there's literally no way anyone is going to be buying an LCD panel in five years.
|
|
#
?
Jun 25, 2017 02:03
|
|
|
Pretty much, exactly, yes
|
|
#
?
Jun 25, 2017 02:44
|
|
|
That's why I keep cancelling my x930e. Although the jump from that to a OLED apparently isn't that big?
|
|
#
?
Jun 25, 2017 03:52
|
|
|
So I got this 2016 Vizio e65-e0 for a great price at Costco because it was a great price, and now I'm wondering how a TV can get a firmware upgrade to support HDR10? Or maybe it makes perfect sense and I should just be happy it's got something.
|
|
#
?
Jun 26, 2017 06:05
|
|
|
HDR TV involves a wider range of brightness and colors than older TV standards, so backported support for an HDR standard probably involves taking the HDR picture and squishing it down to something the TV can display, rather than putting up an error message that says the TV doesn't know what to do with HDR signals. I doubt it would look better than standard TV on a TV that isn't capable of the wider values a proper HDR TV can display.
|
|
#
?
Jun 26, 2017 14:15
|
|
|
It is possible as well for a TV to have had HDR-supporting hardware but the firmware support had some critical bug discovered before shipping which got fixed later. Not saying that's the case here, but it's plausible.
|
|
#
?
Jun 26, 2017 16:53
|
|
|
I still don't understand the concept of HDR where on the low end TVs the reviews basically say "The TV takes an HDR signal, but you won't be able to see the difference" That's like if 15 years ago I bought a SD TV that basically said "It can take an HD signal, but you won't be able to see the difference". Well then what is the loving point?
|
|
#
?
Jun 26, 2017 17:36
|
|
|
By "takes" they mean your TV won't explode. It's compatibility only. This is a good thing!
|
|
#
?
Jun 26, 2017 17:45
|
|
|
But what sources exist that only send HDR? HDMI has automatic negotiation of supported modes. The TV tells the device it doesn't support HDR, the device doesn't send a HDR signal, everything's happy. There is no technically meaningful reason to "support" HDR without actually being capable of making use of it. It's a "feature" that exists only to trick people who don't know any better and think they're actually buying a HDR capable set.
|
|
#
?
Jun 26, 2017 17:54
|
|
|
Astro7x posted:I still don't understand the concept of HDR where on the low end TVs the reviews basically say "The TV takes an HDR signal, but you won't be able to see the difference"
|
|
#
?
Jun 26, 2017 18:31
|
|
|
Bill Barber posted:Displaying some sort of image > displaying a black screen. The latter should never happen though. It's all 100% backward compatible. Unless the display offers some expansion on the REC709 colorspace or some enhanced highlight brightness, there's no reason to accept an HDR signal on a non-hdr display.
|
|
#
?
Jun 26, 2017 19:46
|
|
|
Exactly. Since there's no rational reason for a source device to refuse to provide a non-HDR signal the only purpose for this "feature" other than marketing trickery would be if some lovely source existed that would only send a HDR signal regardless of what the sink tells it. Considering such a source wouldn't work on the vast majority of HDMI sinks that have ever been produced, I'd be willing to bet against it even existing at this point. Maybe in the future there might be some boutique HDR-only streaming service that sells a dedicated appliance to people with more money than brains which intentionally refuses to downscale for *reasons*, but not yet.
|
|
#
?
Jun 27, 2017 00:25
|
|
|
Facebook just popped an ad for the Bravia OLED at me - how does this line compare to the LG? I could be wrong but I don't think I have seen it mentioned here much. Heartbreakingly, the 77" is retailing for a bit above my price range, despite it being a perfect TV for the space I have downstairs. Sad!
|
|
#
?
Jun 27, 2017 18:24
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 23, 2024 22:23 |
|
|
The Sonys use the same panel as the high-end LGs but they have different motion and color processing [which reviewers seem to like better] and android tv [which people seem to tolerate but not love].
|
|
#
?
Jun 27, 2017 18:41
|
|
