The Bloop posted:

Ensign Ro: *is angry at everyone*

The Bloop posted:

Ensign Ro: *is angry at everyone*

Sir Lemming posted:

I can only assume the CBS PR machine is putting out this "interpersonal conflict, OOOOH!" story, but I'm puzzled as to who it's supposed to impress. To anyone who doesn't know much about Trek, that sounds like a big "Who cares? All TV shows have that." And anyone who's watched anything other than TNG seasons 1-3 (or to a lesser extent Voyager) knows that Trek already ditched "Gene's vision" a long time ago.

WampaLord posted:

What's interesting is in that episode where they all lose their memories and Ro and Riker bang, she's way less angry. Kind of a subtle way of selling that "Hey, we're all good people deep down" message, it's only her past and her trauma that made her angry, nothing inherent to her as a person.

Sir Lemming posted:

I can only assume the CBS PR machine is putting out this "interpersonal conflict, OOOOH!" story

quote:

Showrunners Aaron Harberts and Gretchen J. Berg don’t want to give away too much of the plot. The CBS All Access drama is heavily serialized with plenty of twists and turns — particularly in the first few episodes — which makes the storyline difficult to discuss.

But here’s some new intel the duo are ready to reveal about the series, which stars Sonequa Martin-Green as a Starfleet First Officer who was the first human to attend the Vulcan Science Academy.

“Burnham [has] spent a lot of time on Vulcan, but she’s human,” Harberts says. “Sarek [Spock’s father, played by James Frain] plays an important role in her life, which has been completely planned until she makes a very difficult choice that sends her life on a very different path. When we meet her, she’s the First Officer on the Starship Shenzhou [captained by Philippa Georgiou, played by Michelle Yeoh]. And Burnham’s choice that we’re alluding to is most difficult choice you can make — it affects her, affects Starfleet, affects the Federation, it affects the entire universe. That choice leads her to a different ship, the Discovery [helmed by Captain Lorca, played by Jason Isaacs] and there we begin what Gretchen and I call our ‘second pilot.'”

Burham is, of course, the first Trek lead who is not a captain,* so we asked the showrunners what that choice adds to the drama.

“The joy is in the journey,” Berg replied. “The advantage to her not being in charge of the bridge right now is we get to tell stories from a very different point of view. It’s a fresh feeling because we’re not on the bridge all the time. We get access to more parts of the ship.”

Also, the Klingons are heavily involved in the season … and they’re not very friendly.

In addition, we asked the producers which Trek series or film has the biggest influence on the new series.

“There’s a hint of all of them, but in the writers’ room people are so in love with The Original Series and Next Generation, and they talk about the family aspect of those cast members,” Berg said.

Added Harberts: “I think Nicholas Myers’ film are a touchstone, and not just because he’s been on staff with us. His storytelling is complex and intellectual and yet there’s a lot of room for character voices and character work, he’s done such an incredible job with the franchise. In terms of scope and scale, there’s something about Star Trek: The Motion Picture that really speaks to us as well. CBS has allowed us to find a cinematic language that’s wider in scope — our aspect ratio is 2:1 — and it just lends itself to a very lyrical way of telling the story. And just visually speaking, there’s also a little hint in terms of what J.J. Abrams did, a little bit, in terms of some of the visuals.”

Timby posted:

More from EW:

Not in charge of the bridge "right now."

DEAD CAPTAIN WALKING

WampaLord posted:

2 episodes tops.

Timby posted:

I'm still pretty sure this is how the pilot's going to go, and the trailer only further reinforces it:

- Burnham is first officer on the Shenzhou under Michelle Yeoh's captain
- Yeoh tells her she's ready to spread her wings, and has her reassigned to Discovery, the newest ship in the fleet, under Captain Lorca
- Lorca bites it in the pilot episode and Burnham is thrust into the captain's chair
- Throughout the season the Shenzhou checks in on / babysits Discovery (since Yeoh's role is said to be recurring, not starring)

The Bloop posted:

Isaacs is listed as 15 episodes on IMDB but yeah I seriously doubt it.

Timby posted:

IMDB listings can be edited by a random monkey on acid, so I'd never take them as gospel truth. For a while, Beyond had Shatner, Cumberbatch, Greenwood and Bana all listed as cast members, just because some yahoo was spitballing.

Zesty posted:

Unlike Discovery, it was inspired by Star Trek.

Hipster_Doofus posted:

This should be the thread title for the Orville thread.

turn left hillary!! noo posted:

I'm interested in the 2:1 aspect ratio. That's a weird choice, I'm guessing a compromise between the usual TV 16:9 and the 2.35:1 of some more "epic" films.

Timby posted:

More from EW:


Not in charge of the bridge "right now."

DEAD CAPTAIN WALKING

Edit: Lawl at "Nicholas Myers' film." Proofreading, motherfuckers, have you tried it?

The_Doctor posted:

What bothers me is that's clearly come from people who haven't really seen the show because there was always conflict. And also, tons of people are reading it that 'everyone will hate everyone else'.

Pieces of Peace posted:

That * footnote better drat well be an acknowledgement of Benjamin Lafayette Sisko. Commander -> Captain is not an amazing new concept we've never seen in Trek before.

Tunicate posted:

As long as it isn't like the modern muppet remake where they turned all the muppets into assholes for sitcom drama.

Timby posted:

The Muppets was great.

Timby posted:

The Muppets was great.

Muppets Most Wanted was one of the most miserable times I've ever had in a theater and I'd rather sit through Sub Rosa, Threshold, These Are the Voyages..., Profit and Lace and Nemesis, nonstop, than see that pile of poo poo again.

The Bloop posted:

It was good. I haven't seen any of the "modern" Muppet movies. I love love love the Muppet Movie, Great Muppet Caper, Christmas Carol, and Treasure Island. All the newer movies just looked ehhh and I never watched them.

Baronjutter posted:

When asked which treks the writers were most influenced by they checked with marketing who told them Classic and TNG have the biggest and broadest brand recognition.

Orv posted:

It's not necessarily good, but I love Muppets from Space.

skasion posted:

Muppets From Space is the most 90s poo poo imaginable, even more 90s than the Voyager episode where they go to the 90s.

skasion posted:

Muppets From Space is the most 90s poo poo imaginable, even more 90s than the Voyager episode where they go to the 90s.

turn left hillary!! noo posted:

I mean even watch classics like Balance of Terror from TOS. The navigator phaser officer? really has a lot of suspicion about Spock and wasn't afraid to voice it. I think a better interpretation of the "no interpersonal conflict" thing is that people should argue in good faith and be willing to be shown wrong and change their minds, not that there is never any disagreement in the first place. The former is at least within the realm of idealistic imagination, and something we can and should all work toward, whereas the latter sounds like, well, the Borg.

The Bloop posted:

A bunch of clickbaity articles this morning about how Discovery is going against Gene's vision because there will be interpersonal conflict between Starfleet officers

The Bloop posted:

It was good. I haven't seen any of the "modern" Muppet movies. I love love love the Muppet Movie, Great Muppet Caper, Christmas Carol, and Treasure Island. All the newer movies just looked ehhh and I never watched them.

turn left hillary!! noo posted:

wtf is this list, how can you even list Muppet movies without The Muppets Take Manhattan?

turn left hillary!! noo posted:

wtf is this list, how can you even list Muppet movies without The Muppets Take Manhattan?

Powered Descent posted: