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With the lights in the bumper and the wheel choice, it looks an awful lot like the ones they raced at Le Mans, but the sponsors don't match what I found on Google.
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Endurance racing makes far more sense for the time period. Looks like they had BIRKIN sponsorship for the Suzuka 1000 in 1993. 3rd entry, no photo on this page. http://www.racingsportscars.com/suffix/archive/Lotus/Esprit/Sport%20300.html
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Jun 27, 2017 09:20
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I saw my first Fiat 124 Spider out in the wild yesterday. I'm impressed by how much cheaper it looks than a bog standard MX-5... There's too much crappy cheap plastic on the thing to the point where it looks like a Chinese market copy of what it should look like.
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Jun 27, 2017 09:30
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Olympic Mathlete posted:I saw my first Fiat 124 Spider out in the wild yesterday. I'm impressed by how much cheaper it looks than a bog standard MX-5... There's too much crappy cheap plastic on the thing to the point where it looks like a Chinese market copy of what it should look like. One of the docs at the one hospital I go to has one and I feel the same. The wheels look cheap as well. I wonder if the Abarth is as downmarket looking in person? All in all I think I would still prefer the MX5. RF specifically.
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Jun 27, 2017 12:01
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Quality aside, it is an ungainly looking lump, isn't it?
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Jun 27, 2017 12:06
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Olympic Mathlete posted:I saw my first Fiat 124 Spider out in the wild yesterday. I'm impressed by how much cheaper it looks than a bog standard MX-5... There's too much crappy cheap plastic on the thing to the point where it looks like a Chinese market copy of what it should look like. Imperador do Brasil posted:One of the docs at the one hospital I go to has one and I feel the same. The wheels look cheap as well. I wonder if the Abarth is as downmarket looking in person? All in all I think I would still prefer the MX5. RF specifically. InitialDave posted:Quality aside, it is an ungainly looking lump, isn't it? Look at these philistines, bragging about their lack of taste and refinement. smdh.
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Jun 27, 2017 14:22
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I'm sorry, I wasn't aware it was upmarket cheap plastics and classy poor design. Consider my mind changed.
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Jun 27, 2017 15:12
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InitialDave posted:With the lights in the bumper and the wheel choice, it looks an awful lot like the ones they raced at Le Mans, but the sponsors don't match what I found on Google. Son of a bitch now you've got me looking at used, turn-of-the-century Esprits. https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/lotus/esprit/1953109.html https://www.carsforsale.com/vehicle/details/31602558 It's like 40 minutes from me. 
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Jun 27, 2017 22:56
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:Son of a bitch now you've got me looking at used, turn-of-the-century Esprits. A 40 minute drive or a 3 hour tow
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Jun 27, 2017 23:02
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cakesmith handyman posted:A 40 minute drive or a 3 hour tow My brain automatically read "a 3 hour tow" in the same cadence as 'a 3 hour tour' from the Gilligan's Island theme.
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Jun 27, 2017 23:09
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Deteriorata posted:Look at these philistines, bragging about their lack of taste and refinement. GnarlyCharlie4u posted:Son of a bitch now you've got me looking at used, turn-of-the-century Esprits.
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Jun 27, 2017 23:10
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InitialDave posted:Have you had a look at one in the metal (and plastic)? They really are a little... off. I own one.
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Jun 27, 2017 23:14
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InitialDave posted:Have you had a look at one in the metal (and plastic)? They really are a little... off. Christ... I loved If Looks Could Kill so much as a kid. I still hate Roger Rees because of that role.
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Jun 27, 2017 23:16
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Someone's made a music video for Kickstart My Heart using (mostly) cool car films: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo-sHP6cI8Q Deteriorata posted:I own one.
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Jun 27, 2017 23:41
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High school bud and I would watch pretty woman just for the lotus in it. No really! Honest!
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Jun 27, 2017 23:46
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InitialDave posted:
Perhaps someday you'll graduate from finger-painting and eating paste.
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Jun 27, 2017 23:55
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Deteriorata posted:Perhaps someday you'll graduate from finger-painting and eating paste. People put out actual reasons they don't like something you like, so you resort to personal insults. That'll show them who's got better taste!
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Jun 28, 2017 00:03
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Memento posted:People put out actual reasons they don't like something you like, so you resort to personal insults. That'll show them who's got better taste! It's all in good fun. Chill.
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Jun 28, 2017 00:07
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Oh goddamn that body style Esprit. *edit* Esprit, not Elise, I'm senile.
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mekilljoydammit posted:Oh goddamn that body style Esprit. I always seem to forget the name Esprit. In my head I have Elise, Elan, Eclat, Elite, Europa, Exige, Eleven but never Esprit when I see one... It's weird.
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Jun 28, 2017 01:56
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InitialDave posted:Someone's made a music video for Kickstart My Heart using (mostly) cool car films: Excuse me this was clearly done best as the 2012 Kia Optima Superbowl commercial. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSDji8Uk7qQ
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Jun 28, 2017 02:17
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:Son of a bitch now you've got me looking at used, turn-of-the-century Esprits. Get a 4-cyl. The V8 is not worth the extra money, even though it wins the bench race.
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Jun 28, 2017 07:16
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kimbo305 posted:Get a 4-cyl. The V8 is not worth what the gently caress
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Jun 28, 2017 08:43
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Raluek posted:what the gently caress British V8, remember
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Jun 28, 2017 08:56
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The Esprit V8 is one of those "lets take two of our 4-pots and put them together" deals. I'm not sure how good/bad they are really, or if they detuned them from what they're really capable of, but either way I think I'd be a little twitchy about what you can put through those Renault gearboxes, uprated or or not.
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Jun 28, 2017 11:11
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Everyone knows "built in Norfolk" is a byword for resilience and longevity.
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Jun 28, 2017 12:45
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Hey look all the breaking down by the side of the road is just character building ok.
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BigPaddy posted:Hey look all the breaking down by the side of the road is just character building ok. This is why we carry spares....parts.
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BigPaddy posted:Hey look all the breaking down by the side of the road is just character building ok. A classic memory is my wife's uncle wheeling into our wedding in his shiny new '76 Jaguar XJS - which then had to be towed out of the church parking lot.
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Memento posted:British V8, remember Didn't they upgrade approximately fuckall of the rest of the car to handle the power?
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IOwnCalculus posted:Didn't they upgrade approximately fuckall of the rest of the car to handle the power? Yeah, they went the other way. Build up a stronger motor, see where the limits of the trans are, detune motor accordingly. My research into Esprits was that a non-V8 S4 was the best you could do for reliability, and even there it's not great.
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kimbo305 posted:Yeah, they went the other way. Build up a stronger motor, see where the limits of the trans are, detune motor accordingly. So buy a blown up one and plunk a 2.3L Ecoboost or 5.0 Coyote in there then? What about transmissions? What (theoretically) good options do I have? In the spirit of posting actual awesome AI car poo poo here's some actual engine swaps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He7YpzFmzBM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BqiNCda0R4 Here's a turbo rotary thing http://bringatrailer.com/2016/08/03/turbo-rotary-powered-1973-volkswagen-type-181-thing/ 
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:So buy a blown up one and plunk a 2.3L Ecoboost or 5.0 Coyote in there then? When your reliability plan involves starts with speccing a Renault transmission, you're doomed. I've always wondered how the Porsche G50 trans gets flipped for mid-engine use, as it shows up a lot in MR kit cars. Here's RCR's list of engine->transaxle setups that they have anticipated customers doing: http://race-car-replicas.com/engine-transaxle-adapter-plates/
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Friend is swapping an LS1 into an Esprit. I will find out what he's doing about the transmission. He mentioned something about an Audi manual, but that was months ago.
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Probably a good shout, the Audi FWD longitudinal setups are a good option for people wanting a cheap(er) mid-engine setup like that.
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The Factory Five 818 uses a Subaru motor and trans donor. Is the Subaru trans particularly long or anything? Don't see it come up in swaps, but maybe I'm just not paying attention.  That first shot is from an electric 818 still using the Subie 5spd: http://www.autoblog.com/2014/04/28/factory-five-racing-818-ev-battery-powered-electric/
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Most of the 911 trans swaps literally just flip the transmissions upside-down. From reading about it, it's mostly just a matter of changing some vents into drain plugs and vice-versa. The Subaru transaxle is... fine up to a point, but seemingly most of the people building mid-engine kit car stuff are putting V8s in them, and no way is a Subaru 5 speed going to hold that for long. Most people doing lower powered mid-engine stuff (I4s, V6s, etc) just use FWD transverse style setups. Some VW guys do Subaru transaxles though, and RE Amemiya did a rotary Lotus Europa with one.
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kimbo305 posted:Don't see it come up in swaps, but maybe I'm just not paying attention. Probably because it can't hold any power unless you get the $$$ix speed. Edit: beaten
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kimbo305 posted:The Factory Five 818 uses a Subaru motor and trans donor. Is the Subaru trans particularly long or anything? Don't see it come up in swaps, but maybe I'm just not paying attention. Lmao that's a PC water cooling rad on top of the trans. Not sure it was built to handle any vibration.
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Deteriorata posted:A classic memory is my wife's uncle wheeling into our wedding in his shiny new '76 Jaguar XJS - which then had to be towed out of the church parking lot. I chauffeured my friends' wedding in the Land Rover. It vapour locked three times on the way over to pick the groom up, then it gently expired into a parking spot ten seconds after I dropped him off.
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