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Is Equality really that vital? It's just a 100% increase, right?
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Jun 27, 2017 13:12
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Merijn posted:You can also use Lara Crypt but since that's not giving me anything right now, I'm not sure if it still works. Oh, yeah. Used this before, wasn't working when I went to get the Ancient Heirloom. Hope it comes back, it's quite helpful! Vil posted:Export and save in a text document or something, just to be safe (although it's also in your clipboard).  of course
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Jun 27, 2017 13:13
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GrossMurpel posted:Is Equality really that vital? It's just a 100% increase, right? A 100% increase is huge.
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Jun 27, 2017 13:24
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New Yorp New Yorp posted:A 100% increase is huge. Yeah that's 2 hours of effort condensed to one hour of effort, etc
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Jun 27, 2017 14:02
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GrossMurpel posted:Is Equality really that vital? It's just a 100% increase, right? (Most) every boost in the game is multiplicative, not additive, so yeah, 100% means you double your output.
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Jun 27, 2017 14:09
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Merijn posted:I'm slogging through R24-25-26 and it's hella boring. Neutral Research only gets me so far, and every reincarnation is another rush to ~e90 gems, then frantically trying different builds until I find one that eeks me across the reincarnation finish line. When is the next fun thing? I looked this up, and it seems there's a lot of fun on the horizon.  quote:Unlocks per reincarnation: That long haul between R63 and merc research though. 
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Jun 27, 2017 14:11
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Klungar posted:(Most) every boost in the game is multiplicative, not additive, so yeah, 100% means you double your output. I am aware of that, but most of the bonuses in the game (as far as I am at least) are more focused on x10 and more increases. A x2 bonus doesn't seem worth the effort of those day-long runs considering that coins required for gems are exponential. I'll defer to your experience though if you say productive runs later in the game take days and that bonus cuts them in half.
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Jun 27, 2017 14:25
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Merijn posted:I looked this up, and it seems there's a lot of fun on the horizon. You go through R63 to, like, R70 in a couple days. Dragons are a huge change. And R75 isn't really the end either, it's just the most recent paradigm shift. There's probably another ascension coming around R100 or so, iirc.
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Jun 27, 2017 14:34
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Oh, fine. Got to the stage of Space Company that I'm just waiting on updates so I'm gonna try out Realm Grinder. What version though, is it one of those ones that has a bunch all over the place?
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Jun 27, 2017 14:48
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McDragon posted:Oh, fine. Got to the stage of Space Company that I'm just waiting on updates so I'm gonna try out Realm Grinder. What version though, is it one of those ones that has a bunch all over the place? Steam or Kongregate
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Jun 27, 2017 14:53
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I play on mobile, and it's absolutely fine. I do get updates slightly behind the PC version, though.
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Jun 27, 2017 14:55
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A great way to break your RG addiction is to become aware of this: https://dox4242.github.io/edit/edit.html and it's 'Save age' section. If you set that to 30d and re-import your save you get 30 days of offline progress... go wild regarding versions: I played exclusively on my phone and had no issues. The new UI lends itself well to mobile. Also the phone is the only platform that let me speedhack it. Garfu fucked around with this message at 16:49 on Jun 27, 2017 |
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Jun 27, 2017 15:56
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I'll go for Steam I guess then. Thanks for the heads-up on the mobile version though. I just shouldn't play these on something portable, I get too into them.
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Jun 27, 2017 16:37
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Beasteh posted:Pro tip if you're just starting realm grinder: TAKE A FEW DAYS OUT TO GET EQUALITY (at least 1 day played as good/evil/neutral, played time has to be within 1 minute of each faction) Merijn posted:You can also use Lara Crypt but since that's not giving me anything right now, I'm not sure if it still works.
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Jun 28, 2017 01:03
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Waiting three days minimum is boring though, especially when your first handful of Reincarnations aren't going to take that long. Even this merc run for Mana Excess (plus other mana trophies) I'm on the tail end of is less than two days!
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Jun 28, 2017 01:20
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Garfu posted:A great way to break your RG addiction is to become aware of this: https://dox4242.github.io/edit/edit.html and it's 'Save age' section. If you set that to 30d and re-import your save you get 30 days of offline progress... go wild I fully support cheating like this to get the playtime required trophies/researches (especially equality), but in no other situations.
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Jun 28, 2017 02:03
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Another RG question. In some builds, e.g. the R27-R29 builds here: http://musicfamily.org/realm/ResearchBuilds/ , they differentiate "buildup" versus "production". What's the difference?
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Jun 28, 2017 02:30
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Gilg posted:Another RG question. In some builds, e.g. the R27-R29 builds here: http://musicfamily.org/realm/ResearchBuilds/ , they differentiate "buildup" versus "production". What's the difference? Build-up is to buff researches/spells that go off of things like spells cast or faction coins gathered. Tax collection is cheap and thus you can cast more with the same amount of mana. It also produces faction coins. So you're building up researches keyed to those factors. Then production is to take full advantage of the built-up researches. A really common one later is S400 -- it increases max mana based on the total number of spells cast in a single game. It's common to build that up with a build specifically around goblins and S50, which makes each spell you cast also cast a certain number of tax collections. So you can easily get millions of spells cast, and thus a larger value for S400.
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Jun 28, 2017 03:07
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New Yorp New Yorp posted:Build-up is to buff researches/spells that go off of things like spells cast or faction coins gathered. Tax collection is cheap and thus you can cast more with the same amount of mana. It also produces faction coins. So you're building up researches keyed to those factors. Then production is to take full advantage of the built-up researches.
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Jun 28, 2017 03:13
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It's especially important for builds that rely on Vanilla Flavor Juice as you only have 15 minutes - you spam tax collection for 10-11 minutes and then use your full combo for the remaining 4-5
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Jun 28, 2017 04:01
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So, this Equality trophy. Started yesterday, did a day waiting around for neutral, I switched to good. How do I switch to evil tomorrow? Also which faction is good to start with? Thanks
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Jun 28, 2017 18:20
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McDragon posted:So, this Equality trophy. Started yesterday, did a day waiting around for neutral, I switched to good. How do I switch to evil tomorrow? Also which faction is good to start with? Thanks abdicate and pick an evil faction, probably demons if you're going to let it sit active, undead if you're going to let it sit offline
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Jun 28, 2017 18:21
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Ah, thought that might be the case but wanted to check. Thank you
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Jun 28, 2017 18:38
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McDragon posted:Ah, thought that might be the case but wanted to check. Thank you It's only a minute or two of optimization if you're careful about it, but the kind of thing you might not think of (like I didn't) and have to go for another few short runs to fix 
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Jun 28, 2017 19:00
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Can we split realm grinder into its own thread? I've been avoiding this thread since I stopped playing that because trying to find non realm grinder posts is rough
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Jun 28, 2017 19:06
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DACK FAYDEN posted:I'd recommend getting a little more Good time than Neutral time, because when you restart you're forced to rack up Neutral time until you select an Evil faction. Easiest to sync up Good and Evil and then abdicate and sit around not picking a faction until you get it. wait is neutral time time spent without selecting an alignment or time spent as titans/faceless/whatever?
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Jun 28, 2017 19:10
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Gay Hitler posted:Can we split realm grinder into its own thread? I've been avoiding this thread since I stopped playing that because trying to find non realm grinder posts is rough That'd just kill this thread though. Ignatius M. Meen fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Jun 28, 2017 |
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Jun 28, 2017 19:12
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botany posted:wait is neutral time time spent without selecting an alignment or time spent as titans/faceless/whatever? It's both.
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Jun 28, 2017 19:12
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Gay Hitler posted:Can we split realm grinder into its own thread? I've been avoiding this thread since I stopped playing that because trying to find non realm grinder posts is rough There aren't any posts other than Realm Grinder.
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Jun 28, 2017 19:19
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:That'd just kill this thread though. If this thread only exists for Realm Grinder it's already a Realm Grinder thread & therefore a non-RG idler thread would be nice
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Jun 28, 2017 19:31
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Realm Grinder chat had been basically dead for almost a year, everyone is relapsing. We need new idle games that are good and worth discussing.
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Jun 28, 2017 19:56
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In bitburner you can hack your own machine with the script 'hack' command. In my big script I start after an augment reset by running a script which hacks my home machine 20 times using 600 threads (I have 4 TB of ram on the home machine), this will get me to level 96 or so in hacking in about 5 minutes. I have my script do this before deploying all the weaken/grow/hack scripts to cut down the initial time for the first weaken.
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Jun 28, 2017 20:18
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This thread is so slow it hasn't had a "can we move the talk about [flavor of the month idle] to a new thread?" post since Trimps a few months ago. I'm clawing my way through R28 and getting that last bit is rough.
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Jun 28, 2017 20:22
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Sibling of TB posted:In bitburner you can hack your own machine with the script 'hack' command. In my big script I start after an augment reset by running a script which hacks my home machine 20 times using 600 threads (I have 4 TB of ram on the home machine), this will get me to level 96 or so in hacking in about 5 minutes. I have my script do this before deploying all the weaken/grow/hack scripts to cut down the initial time for the first weaken. I did not know you could get xp for hacking your own machine. The most recent update removed the multi-threading penalty and also allows multiple augments per run (they increase in price for each you purchase in a run, and you have to reset to "install"). It also added scan() for detecting servers.
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Jun 28, 2017 20:24
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Does that mean you can now completely automate the process of hacking every host that exists? I didn't really play it but from scanning the documentation it looked like the only obstacle was the lack of a scriptable version of host discovery.
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Jun 28, 2017 20:41
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Sindai posted:Does that mean you can now completely automate the process of hacking every host that exists? I didn't really play it but from scanning the documentation it looked like the only obstacle was the lack of a scriptable version of host discovery. Theoretically, yes, but doing so without functions or better array support or objects seems daunting. Enigma fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Jun 28, 2017 |
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Jun 28, 2017 21:04
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Sindai posted:Does that mean you can now completely automate the process of hacking every host that exists? I didn't really play it but from scanning the documentation it looked like the only obstacle was the lack of a scriptable version of host discovery. It looks like the scan() function only gives you servers directly connected to whatever server it runs on, so you'd have to do some kind of program that recursively installs itself to everything returned from scan() and then uses exec() to run hacking scripts on your home machine or something, I'm way too lazy to code that out right now.
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Jun 28, 2017 21:28
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Anfauglir posted:It looks like the scan() function only gives you servers directly connected to whatever server it runs on, so you'd have to do some kind of program that recursively installs itself to everything returned from scan() and then uses exec() to run hacking scripts on your home machine or something, I'm way too lazy to code that out right now. Nevermind, you can just copy a file and check to see if it exists, duh. Useful perhaps for creating an array of the network locations, but 0-RAM servers are barriers to spreading a virus. Still sounds rough without functions or recursions, or a simple way to see if an element exists in an array. Oh, also instructions take somewhere between 1-2 seconds. Probably easiest for now to just use a pre-generated list. Enigma fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Jun 28, 2017 |
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Jun 28, 2017 21:35
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DACK FAYDEN posted:I'd recommend getting a little more Good time than Neutral time, because when you restart you're forced to rack up Neutral time until you select an Evil faction. Easiest to sync up Good and Evil and then abdicate and sit around not picking a faction until you get it. Oh, good point. Will build up a little buffer then I guess. Thanks for the tip
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Jun 28, 2017 21:37
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Guys, I'm stuck at R29. I can not get e200 coins for Secrets of the Uderworld, I must have tried every faction and bloodline combo. I'm at 6e111 gems.
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Jun 28, 2017 21:53
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