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BurritoJustice posted:Thermaltake basically exclusively makes aluminium WC parts. It pains me whenever I walk into my local computer store and they have EK loops with Thermaltake aluminium radtiaors that I just know are going to be completely destroyed by galvanic corrosion. And more details on Ryzen PRO: https://videocardz.com/70594/amd-launches-ryzen-pro-workstation-processors
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Measly Twerp posted:And more details on Ryzen PRO: That is a ton more power for 500MHz. They must be pushing these as hard as they can.
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And the press release: https://videocardz.com/press-release/amd-announces-ryzen-pro-professional-desktop-cpus No pricing however.
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Jun 29, 2017 14:48
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So this is the creme de la creme of silicon quality. Need to see some OC numbers on the 1700
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I'm sad the R3 line are 4C/4T. Hopefully Raven Ridge will have 4C/8T SKUs.
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NewFatMike posted:I'm sad the R3 line are 4C/4T. Hopefully Raven Ridge will have 4C/8T SKUs. If they price it against G4630 it will certainly have it's place. AM4 needs some low end skus to push the platform
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Risky Bisquick posted:If they price it against G4630 it will certainly have it's place. AM4 needs some low end skus to push the platform They do technically have excavator for AM4, but it's OEM exclusive. They have released A300 boards right? Just pump out 14nm LPP versions of Puma+ with L3 and an 8 core count, successor to AM1. I guarantee you'll have buyers for 15-35W 4-8 core CPUs, and this was already on their roadmap for 28nm (Carrizo-L, FP4 socket, 4 cores) and it'd be freaking tiny - Puma was 107mm² on 28nm, even just sticking to an essentially shrunk design should net a 60-70mm² die, double the cores +L3 would be like, ~120nm².
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BurritoJustice posted:Thermaltake basically exclusively makes aluminium WC parts. It pains me whenever I walk into my local computer store and they have EK loops with Thermaltake aluminium radtiaors that I just know are going to be completely destroyed by galvanic corrosion. Eh, I wouldn't be too worried about galvanic corrosion in the time frame most users will see these parts installed for.
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I feel (extra) dumb here. What's the difference between, say, a regular 1700 and a PRO 1700?
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NewFatMike posted:I'm sad the R3 line are 4C/4T. Hopefully Raven Ridge will have 4C/8T SKUs. I think 4/8's are called R5's in this naming scheme, like the 1500X/1400. Thats if you even try making sense of modern computer product naming schemes. AT has their preview of the Pro models up, it basically sounds like these just have some enterprise security features enabled and a longer warranty. Roughly equivalent to the vPro line of i7/i5. http://www.anandtech.com/show/11591/amd-launches-ryzen-pro-cpus-enhanced-security-longer-warranty-better-quality
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WAR DOGS OF SOCHI posted:I feel (extra) dumb here. What's the difference between, say, a regular 1700 and a PRO 1700? Actual support for ECC memory instead of 'you can use it but it's not officially supported.'
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Alpha Man posted:Actual support for ECC memory instead of 'you can use it but it's not officially supported.' that's it? lol
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WAR DOGS OF SOCHI posted:that's it? lol Top-binned silicon as well.
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I have a hard time understanding the way Ryzen XFR/Turbo interacts with a load that i.e. maxes out one core and has medium load on four other cores. Would a 1800X fall back to 3.6 Ghz base frequency on all cores in this case? Would a "manually overclocked" 1700 at 3.7 Ghz (most seem to do that) outperform it in that scenario?
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Jun 29, 2017 18:24
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ok, got it. pro is a corporate desktop line -- enhanced support, extended warranty etc, but little other difference
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WAR DOGS OF SOCHI posted:ok, got it. pro is a corporate desktop line -- enhanced support, extended warranty etc, but little other difference It seems to me like a bit more difference between the vPro enabled /non vPro Intel CPUs.
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Twerk from Home posted:It seems to me like a bit more difference between the vPro enabled /non vPro Intel CPUs. According to this Ars Technica article all of that stuff is in the non Pro Ryzens anyway: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/06/ryzen-pro-amd-takes-on-intel-on-the-corporate-desktop-with-one-key-omission/
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Alpha Man posted:Actual support for ECC memory instead of 'you can use it but it's not officially supported.' I thought the official line was "Ryzen officially supports it but it's up to the motherboard manufacturers to support it themselves and complete the chain"? That's what I've been told by AMD fanboys, would be unsurprised to learn that's bullshit.
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Is it really the best silicon? I'd have expected it to be just relabelled. All that stuffs probably going to THREADRIPPER / EPYC.
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Paul MaudDib posted:I thought the official line was "Ryzen officially supports it but it's up to the motherboard manufacturers to support it themselves and complete the chain"? That's what I've been told by AMD fanboys, would be unsurprised to learn that's bullshit. No, it's AMD who said it.  https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5x4hxu/we_are_amd_creators_of_athlon_radeon_and_other/def5ayl/ http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/75030-ecc-memory-amds-ryzen-deep-dive.html SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Jun 29, 2017 |
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:Is it really the best silicon? I'd have expected it to be just relabelled. All that stuffs probably going to THREADRIPPER / EPYC. It's likely the best silicon when it comes to voltage (since they are talking about extended warranties and reliability), not for clocks.
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AFAIK it silently corrects single bit errors but doesn't report the kernel or halt the system when a two bit error occurs. I just ordered a 1700 system because I'm tired of waiting for Coffee Lake and need something to play around with; NPT performance bug seems to be fixable via software because people were able to get around it by using Xen as a hypervisor.
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A while ago I've seen a video of some Linux dude testing it and forcing errors by loving with RAM voltages. It actually reported single bit errors under Linux. And caused a kernel panic on worse errors. I figure it'll do the same in Windows, too. Also, they need finally to officially announce/reveal Threadripper.
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Combat Pretzel posted:A while ago I've seen a video of some Linux dude testing it and forcing errors by loving with RAM voltages. It actually reported single bit errors under Linux. And caused a kernel panic on worse errors. I figure it'll do the same in Windows, too. r-rip my threads AMDaddy
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its really hard to say if Epyc or ThreadRipper is a worse name to me. pretty neck and neck in complete terribleness.
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why the hell isnt threadripper a terrible name for smt?
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The Ryzen naming scheme and recent patents give me the impression there is no marketing department, the engineers just ask the guys who run a d20 modern DOOM campaign in the break room because "they're good with names".
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FaustianQ posted:The Ryzen naming scheme and recent patents give me the impression there is no marketing department, the engineers just ask the guys who run a d20 modern DOOM campaign in the break room because "they're good with names". A d20 Modern DOOM campaign is the worst idea. Holy poo poo. Also EPYC is the worst name, especially since it's a server processor not a gaming part.
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Threadripper is an objectively awesome name. Some might even say it's EPYC.
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I'll rip and tear anyone who thinks threadripper isnt loving kicking rad
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Scarecow posted:I'll rip and tear anyone who thinks threadripper isnt loving kicking rad I like it too. It's like something from a 90s Sega game.
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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:why the hell isnt threadripper a terrible name for smt?
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Arivia posted:A d20 Modern DOOM campaign is the worst idea. Holy poo poo. Also EPYC is the worst name, especially since it's a server processor not a gaming part. I can't stop laughing at this avatar/post combo, I'm sorry.
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FaustianQ posted:I can't stop laughing at this avatar/post combo, I'm sorry. If it helps, I got it FROM the 5e thread when they got mad at me for pointing out how terrible that game is in pretty much every conceivable way. Threadripper is cool. Makes me think of DOOM.
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Scarecow posted:I'll rip and tear anyone who thinks threadripper isnt loving kicking rad 
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threadripper is a cool name for a sewing machine, its dumb for a $1000 computer chip. sounds like somethin a dude with those huge plastic dragon computer cases would have
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Cygni posted:threadripper is a cool name for a sewing machine, its dumb for a $1000 computer chip. sounds like somethin a dude with those huge plastic dragon computer cases would have What about a sewing machine powered by a $1000 computer chip? In seriousness, I think AMD Marketing Team = D&D/Shadowrun group is a solid theory.
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Cygni posted:a dude with those huge plastic dragon computer cases Yes, that's threadripper's target market
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:I like it too. It's like something from a 90s Sega game. Threadripper, now with Blast Processing.
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SamDabbers posted:Yes, that's threadripper's target market im a man of more REFINED tastes  (this came up when i GISed "bad computer cases", and that couldnt be more wrong)
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