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briefcasefullof
Sep 25, 2004
[This Space for Rent]
If I go and put peanut butter on there and it doesn't work, I'm going to look like a fool to my wife and the dog will hate me.

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Bape Culture
Sep 13, 2006

QuarkMartial posted:

If I go and put peanut butter on there and it doesn't work, I'm going to look like a fool to my wife and the dog will hate me.

Google it. It's absolutely legit. I thought the same too

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




Yes it works. Get natural peanut butter and when you first open it the oil will have probably separated. Just use that.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

QuarkMartial posted:

If I go and put peanut butter on there and it doesn't work, I'm going to look like a fool to my wife and the dog will hate me.
Best contextless opening to a new page I've seen in a while, I'll give you that.

Bape Culture
Sep 13, 2006

InitialDave posted:

Best contextless opening to a new page I've seen in a while, I'll give you that.

Hahahahaha.

Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012


Would classic crunchy or smooth work better?

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

Cop Porn Popper posted:

Would classic crunchy or smooth work better?

Honestly... organic. That oil separates much quicker/easier.

Mat_Drinks
Nov 18, 2002

mmm this nitromethane gets my supercharger runnin'

Hikaki posted:

New to detailing here; I just did my first job but skipped the wheels. What's the verdict on wheel sealants? Is it worth doing, and if so what's a decent product? My friend put on something called McKee's 37 Wheel Coating on his brand new wheels and it feels like it didn't do poo poo for protecting against brake dust, so I'm a little skeptical.

Here's the results of wash, clay, polish, sealant, and finally wax. I think it turned out pretty well. It did hurt a little discovering like 15 rock chips though.



Do you mean sealant like sealant wax or sealant like the treatments that have become popular like gtechniq?

If sealant wax, I've used regular car sealant on my S3's wheels with some success. I've yet to use the gtechniq stuff and in general I feel like there is a lack of information out there on it other than pro detailers saying it works on the Internet, but I don't really trust that.


QuarkMartial posted:

Wife's new car has some wax down in the black plastic trim. Is there a way to remove it or am I stuck using something like back to back to mask it?

Mat_Drinks posted:

vigorous licking!

I hadn't actually heard the peanut butter thing, but had heard the "use some fresh wax" trick because it softens the hardened stuff up enough that you can get it off. There are a couple companies that sell wax removal spray too.

briefcasefullof
Sep 25, 2004
[This Space for Rent]
Oh I'm trying it as soon as it's daylight. Will report back.

Hikaki
Oct 11, 2005
Motherfucking Fujitsu Heavy Industries

Mat_Drinks posted:

Do you mean sealant like sealant wax or sealant like the treatments that have become popular like gtechniq?

If sealant wax, I've used regular car sealant on my S3's wheels with some success. I've yet to use the gtechniq stuff and in general I feel like there is a lack of information out there on it other than pro detailers saying it works on the Internet, but I don't really trust that.

I guess I meant the fancy treatments. I thought about using regular sealant too but then I read that it's not designed for the temperatures that wheels experience. I haven't heard of gtechniq; sounds like it's worth looking into, thanks.

Digital_Jesus
Feb 10, 2011

Also you dont need to peanut butter your trim. A red eraser works fine to take off old wax.

TheGoatTrick
Aug 1, 2002

Semi-aquatic personification of unstoppable douchery

Mat_Drinks posted:

I've yet to use the gtechniq stuff and in general I feel like there is a lack of information out there on it other than pro detailers saying it works on the Internet, but I don't really trust that.
Heh, I just bought Gtechniq Cystal Serum Light and Exo V3 today. Will report back.

A family member's car was just done in a similar coating called CS-II. Haven't washed it yet, but initial impressions are very, very good.

Hikaki
Oct 11, 2005
Motherfucking Fujitsu Heavy Industries
Here's a weird question. After freshly applying wax, my car felt much softer to touch. It almost felt silky, and felt that way until today. I just did my first post-detail wash and that feel is gone now. Does that mean that the wax has been stripped? I used Optimum car wash which is supposed to be wax-safe, but I also applied the wax on top of a sealant so I suppose it wouldn't have bonded as well. Could it be gone already?

TheGoatTrick posted:

Heh, I just bought Gtechniq Cystal Serum Light and Exo V3 today. Will report back.

I just looked this stuff up and, lasts 3-5 years?? Wow, this stuff sounds amazing. I'm curious how difficult it is to apply.

Mat_Drinks
Nov 18, 2002

mmm this nitromethane gets my supercharger runnin'

TheGoatTrick posted:

Heh, I just bought Gtechniq Cystal Serum Light and Exo V3 today. Will report back.

Please do. I'm interested to hear about your experience with application and finish, then durability. How experienced with detailing are you?

Hikaki posted:

Here's a weird question. After freshly applying wax, my car felt much softer to touch. It almost felt silky, and felt that way until today. I just did my first post-detail wash and that feel is gone now. Does that mean that the wax has been stripped? I used Optimum car wash which is supposed to be wax-safe, but I also applied the wax on top of a sealant so I suppose it wouldn't have bonded as well. Could it be gone already?


I just looked this stuff up and, lasts 3-5 years?? Wow, this stuff sounds amazing. I'm curious how difficult it is to apply.

Did you follow the instructions on the bottle (soap to water ratio)? If so, you're probably fine, if not, then you may have gone overboard on the soap and may want to rewax. Test using a knuckle drag and a bit of a water bead test. Usually when I wash my car I dry with a spray wax (my current favorite is meguiar's) as that helps prevent water sports, any issues with drying, but also touches up the wax. One wash shouldn't kill a wax unless you used wayyy too much soap, used simple green or dishwasher soap, or used really lovely wax, but even the shittiest of wax should last one wash.

edit: it's worth noting that that soft feel to me is like when you buy brand new clothes, then wash them once. It's still good, it just doesn't have that straight-from-the-factory-and-full-of-chemicals-smell :). Just because you wash em once doesn't mean they aren't still new and stain free.

Hikaki
Oct 11, 2005
Motherfucking Fujitsu Heavy Industries

Mat_Drinks posted:

Did you follow the instructions on the bottle (soap to water ratio)? If so, you're probably fine, if not, then you may have gone overboard on the soap and may want to rewax. Test using a knuckle drag and a bit of a water bead test. Usually when I wash my car I dry with a spray wax (my current favorite is meguiar's) as that helps prevent water sports, any issues with drying, but also touches up the wax. One wash shouldn't kill a wax unless you used wayyy too much soap, used simple green or dishwasher soap, or used really lovely wax, but even the shittiest of wax should last one wash.

edit: it's worth noting that that soft feel to me is like when you buy brand new clothes, then wash them once. It's still good, it just doesn't have that straight-from-the-factory-and-full-of-chemicals-smell :). Just because you wash em once doesn't mean they aren't still new and stain free.

poo poo, I may have used like 2-4x more soap than is called for. I kinda just eyeballed it. I guess I'll try re-waxing and seeing what happens next time with a proper soap mixture. It's dumb, especially because I hardly even touch the exterior, but I really like that soft feel.

Also, too much soap couldn't have possibly removed the sealant too, could it?

TheGoatTrick
Aug 1, 2002

Semi-aquatic personification of unstoppable douchery

Hikaki posted:

Also, too much soap couldn't have possibly removed the sealant too, could it?
No. Before you go to the trouble of rewaxing, try applying a detailing spray. It will make the surface more slick to the touch.

TheGoatTrick fucked around with this message at 08:03 on Jul 2, 2017

Hikaki
Oct 11, 2005
Motherfucking Fujitsu Heavy Industries

TheGoatTrick posted:

No. Before you go to the trouble of rewaxing, try applying a detailing spray. It will make the surface more slick to the touch.

Oops, too late. I'll try this next time though. Also I'm not sure if it's placebo but I noticed a big difference in the shine pre- and post-wax so maybe it did get stripped afterall.

TheGoatTrick
Aug 1, 2002

Semi-aquatic personification of unstoppable douchery

Hikaki posted:

My friend put on something called McKee's 37 Wheel Coating on his brand new wheels and it feels like it didn't do poo poo for protecting against brake dust, so I'm a little skeptical.
Missed this earlier. Wheel coatings don't prevent brake dust from sticking, they just make it easier to clean it off. I use FK1000P on my wheels and it gets pretty much all of the brake dust off with just a hose.

You can also brush the brake dust off easily when the wheels are dry using a California Car Duster. The small one that is used for dashboards works well.

Hikaki
Oct 11, 2005
Motherfucking Fujitsu Heavy Industries

TheGoatTrick posted:

Missed this earlier. Wheel coatings don't prevent brake dust from sticking, they just make it easier to clean it off. I use FK1000P on my wheels and it gets pretty much all of the brake dust off with just a hose.

You can also brush the brake dust off easily when the wheels are dry using a California Car Duster. The small one that is used for dashboards works well.

Ok, to be fair they are a little easier to clean, but it definitely still requires more than just the hose. The corners also still get crud caked on and require scrubbing. I'll give that FK1000P stuff a try; I have a feeling that a paste will work better than the McKee's spray-on stuff.

The car duster looks interesting. Would it be a good idea to forgo actual washes and just dust the car every week? I have it garaged and my last wash was 80% just to remove a layer of dust. For stuff like bug guts, I'm thinking of getting a rinseless wash in a spray bottle and just doing spot cleaning.

TheGoatTrick
Aug 1, 2002

Semi-aquatic personification of unstoppable douchery

Hikaki posted:

The car duster looks interesting. Would it be a good idea to forgo actual washes and just dust the car every week? I have it garaged and my last wash was 80% just to remove a layer of dust. For stuff like bug guts, I'm thinking of getting a rinseless wash in a spray bottle and just doing spot cleaning.
No, using that duster on paint will create swirls over time. My cars are garaged most of the time too. I found the easiest thing to do is go to the coin operated car wash and use their spot free rinse to get loose dust off, then just drive away. If you do this every two weeks or so, it stays pretty clean and you won't have to do much else.

TheGoatTrick
Aug 1, 2002

Semi-aquatic personification of unstoppable douchery

TheGoatTrick posted:

Heh, I just bought Gtechniq Cystal Serum Light and Exo V3 today. Will report back.
It is done. Gtechniq Crystal Serum Light under two coats of Gtechniq Exo V3.



(Sup, Hikaki? :hfive:)

The Gtechnic products are very easy to use. I followed this guide, but I substituted a 10% IPA solution for the Panel Wipe. Both products have plenty of working time before they cure so you don't have to rush. They apply kind of thick, but there's no pressure needed on the towel to remove the excess. All the excess got removed on the first pass with a towel but I went over each section with a second towel just to be sure. I got a big pack of new microfiber towels from Costco and replaced them whenever I felt the towel start to drag on the surface. Costco microfibers are cheap and worked just fine if you want to throw them away. I washed mine and they seem fine so I'll use them around the house.

The hardest part was the prep, as usual. I didn't have a bright enough light to check my work while polishing, so I had to pull the car out into the sunlight. Because of the angle of the light, I missed some micromarring, especially on the vertical panels. I always have the most trouble with those. In retrospect, I should have used a black pad instead of white to finish. Oh well, it's still an overall improvement over the swirls that were there before.

Previously, I had OptiSeal topped with Meguiar's #16 Carnauba. It gave the car a nice, diffuse glow in sunlight. The Gtechnic looks sharp and crisp in comparison, if that makes sense.

A couple more pictures of the Gtechniq in different lighting:



TheGoatTrick fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Jul 4, 2017

Hikaki
Oct 11, 2005
Motherfucking Fujitsu Heavy Industries
That's awesome! Is that the arctic white or ceramic? I can't quite tell; it looks more like arctic white with the Gtechniq and more like ceramic with the OptiSeal.

I'm amazed at how glossy the Gtechniq is though. That's without any wax on top?

TheGoatTrick
Aug 1, 2002

Semi-aquatic personification of unstoppable douchery

Hikaki posted:

That's awesome! Is that the arctic white or ceramic? I can't quite tell; it looks more like arctic white with the Gtechniq and more like ceramic with the OptiSeal.

I'm amazed at how glossy the Gtechniq is though. That's without any wax on top?
Edited my post above to clarify. All of those pictures are of the Gtechniq in different lighting. As you might guess from that, the car is Ceramic Metallic.

That's without anything else on top. You can put something on top if you like, but then it will just have the surface properties of whatever is on top. I want to try out the hydrophobic properties of the Exo V3, so I'm going to leave it as is.

MrOnBicycle
Jan 18, 2008
Wait wat?
I have a bottle of CQuartz UK waiting to be applied to my dads and my own car. Haven't had time to do it all spring, and of course some idiot backs into him just as I get time to do it. Rear bumper and tail light are shot. Hopefully they won't have to do much blending (solid black colour) and just replace the bumper and light. Irritating.

Nice coating jobs btw. Looks great.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Bought a 2008 Prius in January, , finally decided I should probably detail it to help with the eventual resale value. I have never done this before.

-Scratched the poo poo out the front right bumper in March backing out of a spot next to a concrete retaining wall because the rear end in a top hat on the other side squeezed me in.
-Drove 900 miles to/from Daytona Beach in May. Only a small portion was right on the ocean, but the front bumper definitely accumulated dead bugs.

Getting polishing/wax supplies is more expensive than I expected:

Drive thru car wash $5
Mothers clay bar $14
Meguiar's Ultimate Compound $10
Meguiar's Ultimate Liquid Wax $17
A bunch of microfiber cloths $15
Total $61

I realize I'm not going to be able to do anything about sports where it scratched through the paint to the plastic underneath, but hopefully the remaining streaks can be minimized.

Hikaki
Oct 11, 2005
Motherfucking Fujitsu Heavy Industries
I would suggest doing the wash yourself if you're going to go through the trouble of stuff like clay and wax. I've never been through an auto car wash that actually got the car clean. That, and driving back from the wash will just get it dirty again before you start doing anything.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Hikaki posted:

I would suggest doing the wash yourself if you're going to go through the trouble of stuff like clay and wax. I've never been through an auto car wash that actually got the car clean. That, and driving back from the wash will just get it dirty again before you start doing anything.
My concerns with hand washing myself are that I don't have hose or spray nozzle, so that'd be another $25. It's been raining constantly in Atlanta so I'm feel like there's not particular dirt buildup? Plus the drive thru wash should clean the undercarriage.

always be closing
Jul 16, 2005
What's $25 over the course of the life of the hose. If you're serious about a clean car, prove it! Rain is doing you no favors either.

Scott808
Jul 11, 2001

Josh Lyman posted:

My concerns with hand washing myself are that I don't have hose or spray nozzle, so that'd be another $25. It's been raining constantly in Atlanta so I'm feel like there's not particular dirt buildup? Plus the drive thru wash should clean the undercarriage.

Is this a one time only thing? Just clean up the car once to sell it?

Aside from not currently owning one, is the use of a hose an option? Rinseless washes like Optimum No Rinse is an option if hose access is not available at all.

I feel like your plan/process is not laid out with much care, but that also depends on what your expectations/goals are. I wouldn't feel comfortable running through an automated wash, driving whatever distance home, and then claying.

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




As some of the other guys have said, these are sort of things you can use more than once if you want to "invest" in the cleanliness of your car. Stop being so cheap. :) If you have a house, how do you not have a garden hose?

Drive through washes are terrible and will swirl the hell out of your paint. I'll go to a pay and spray in the winter to rinse off my car and even then that's not ideal because the water is recycled so it might be more gritty than what comes out of your hose at home.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

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Larrymer posted:

As some of the other guys have said, these are sort of things you can use more than once if you want to "invest" in the cleanliness of your car. Stop being so cheap. :) If you have a house, how do you not have a garden hose?

Drive through washes are terrible and will swirl the hell out of your paint. I'll go to a pay and spray in the winter to rinse off my car and even then that's not ideal because the water is recycled so it might be more gritty than what comes out of your hose at home.

All of this is what I was going to say.

Although, I have been known to commit the cardinal sin of using the pay and spray's brush... but only after blasting the absolute poo poo out of it first (the one by me actually has nice, soft bristles that are perfectly fine if they're not gritted up, and the foaming soap that comes out usually encapsulates any of the residual nastiness).

Night Danger Moose
Jan 5, 2004

YO SOY FIESTA
I didn't realize until after we bought our house that there is no hose outlet on the outside of the house at all. Currently looking at getting one put in, but I've got quotes between $300-600 and I'm hella broke. Adam's waterless wash is pretty dope though, but not having that first rinse really sucks.

Hikaki
Oct 11, 2005
Motherfucking Fujitsu Heavy Industries

Josh Lyman posted:

It's been raining constantly in Atlanta so I'm feel like there's not particular dirt buildup? Plus the drive thru wash should clean the undercarriage.

Remember how rain forms in the first place. Each drop is water vapor that condensed around a speck of dust. So all that water just leaves behind a bunch of dirt unless you wipe it away. That, and water won't wash off stuff like tar or grease.

I realize that you mean that the auto wash will be "good enough" especially after rain takes off the caked on stuff, but the devil is in the details. You're going to have to spot clean a lot if you go this route. I actually hesitate to even say "spot clean" because in some cases the dirty "spots" are entire panels that still have a layer of dirt on them after the auto wash.

Good point about the undercarriage though.

Hikaki fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Jul 13, 2017

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Meguiar's Gold should be fine?

always be closing posted:

What's $25 over the course of the life of the hose. If you're serious about a clean car, prove it! Rain is doing you no favors either.
It's a matter of principle. I'm the only one living in the house but I don't own it.

Turn out there was a hose hiding in the backyard bushes, so I just need to get a spray nozzle?

Scott808 posted:

Is this a one time only thing? Just clean up the car once to sell it?

Aside from not currently owning one, is the use of a hose an option? Rinseless washes like Optimum No Rinse is an option if hose access is not available at all.

I feel like your plan/process is not laid out with much care, but that also depends on what your expectations/goals are. I wouldn't feel comfortable running through an automated wash, driving whatever distance home, and then claying.
My previous car, being a '97 4Runner beater, I didn't really worry about the exterior.

The Prius isn't being sold now, but I'd like it to look respectable.

Josh Lyman fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Jul 13, 2017

Digital_Jesus
Feb 10, 2011

Car gets run through the automatic wash exactly twice per year, once when it comes out to get any residual salt dust out of the undercarriage from being up all winter in a dirty garage, and once before it gets put away at the end of the year.

Everything else is hand wash and wax.

Speaking of I need to clean the drat garage this summer.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


I'd love to give both of my cars a good once over.

However.
It.
Won't.
Stop.
Raining.



Ever.

Western PA never used to have a monsoon season.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Nobody had the normal size of Mothers clay, just the economy size, so the cheapest place with Meguiar's was...

Target. Their auto section is literally half an aisle and they carry clay. :psyduck:

Digital_Jesus
Feb 10, 2011

Dont feel bad. The chain lube I use for my bikes is literally only stocked by walmart.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Using a palm sander with a microfiber cloth to apply compound and wax: clever use of poo poo I have lying around or fast lane to ruining my car?

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meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

Josh Lyman posted:

Using a palm sander with a microfiber cloth to apply compound and wax: clever use of poo poo I have lying around or fast lane to ruining my car?

That's a pretty terrible idea.

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