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Captain Invictus posted:"Let's risk the lives of everyone in this colony ship for the like 3 people still alive down there by flying the ship into the electromagnetic storm that it specifically says not to because the standing captain is having an emotional crisis" was exceptionally bad yeah. I mean I knew exactly how the plot would go the moment David showed up. Like, people do dumb, senseless, illogical things especially when their friends and loved ones are at risk. That's a thing that happens in real life like a lot. Like it's weird to me that people act like "the character's acted illogically" like in reality people always do the most logical thing they could possibly do.
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Headshots on unarmored enemies should always instant kill. Point-blank shotgun blasts on humanoid-sized enemies should always instant kill. Melee attacks on stunned/unaware enemies should always instant kill.
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I haven't seen any of the sequels or prequels, but I recently watched Alien for the first time and I liked how it's company policy that pushed them to make poor decisions and not characters acting irrationally.
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Jul 3, 2017 21:42
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glam rock hamhock posted:Like, people do dumb, senseless, illogical things especially when their friends and loved ones are at risk. That's a thing that happens in real life like a lot. Like it's weird to me that people act like "the character's acted illogically" like in reality people always do the most logical thing they could possibly do. Yes, but you have to consider that the people that do these senseless things were written by a real person, and I really doubt their thought process was "let's make these people realistically dumb" because that ends up with them being pretty lovely protagonists.
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Jul 3, 2017 21:43
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Space movie characters acting like humans and not vulcans. Nerds dismayed.
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Jul 3, 2017 21:45
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Like, look at actual people in power throughout the world and tell me they are making logical decisions for the greater good. Or even to do their jobs effectively. I don't just mean politicians. Look at the people who own fast food franchises and tell me they know how to run a business. Some of them do. Look at your manager. They're a loving moron. What do you think the qualifications are to be a glorified space bus driver who wears a cowboy hat in space. Lots of people text and drive while not wearing seatbelts and no using turn signals. Also they don't think that stop signs in parking lots are real so they just go through them. You cannot overstate how stupid people are. Someone who is clearly a competent pilot and was selected for that skill not having the best logic and leadership capability is not a flaw in the movie, that's called a person. Actual airline pilots fly drunk all the time. That's WAY worse than what Tennessee did in the movie. edit: CharlieFoxtrot posted:Headshots on unarmored enemies should always instant kill. Yes. Also non-lethal combat is bullshit. You get to use violence as a tool to solve problems, or you don't. You don't get to use violence to magically solve problems without killing anyone. But that's a separate argument.
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CJacobs posted:Yes, but you have to consider that the people that do these senseless things were written by a real person, and I really doubt their thought process was "let's make these people realistically dumb" because that ends up with them being pretty lovely protagonists. It's a horror movie. Characters being dumb and getting killed is like 80% of the genre. The characters in both Prometheus and Covanent that actually survive tend to be the characters that either acted most logically or adjusted best when the situation turned bad.
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Jul 3, 2017 21:48
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glam rock hamhock posted:It's a horror movie. Characters being dumb and getting killed is like 80% of the genre. The characters in both Prometheus and Covanent that actually survive tend to be the characters that either acted most logically or adjusted best when the situation turned bad. That would be a fair point if the movie didn't go out of its way to emphasize just how goddamn smart all these people are before they get killed by acting like idiots.
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Jul 3, 2017 21:51
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tap my mountain posted:It'd be cool if FLCL2 took a page from the new Twin Peaks and took place 15 years later. Naoto could be a jaded adult in his late twenties and be the perfect stand in for the now grown up viewers of the original. everything should take a page from the new twin peaks imo. literally everything I'm legit debating whether to continue playing trails in the sky or rewatch all 8 eps of nu twin peaks, again, for the third time. help psychoJ fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Jul 3, 2017 |
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Jul 3, 2017 21:51
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What's the best Alien-themed video game anyway?
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Jul 3, 2017 21:52
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Jay Rust posted:What's the best Alien-themed video game anyway? Alien vs Predator 2
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Jul 3, 2017 21:53
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Jay Rust posted:What's the best Alien-themed video game anyway? Super Metroid
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Chomp8645 posted:Alien vs Predator 2 Seconding this.
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Jul 3, 2017 21:54
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Is that one of the beat em ups?
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Jul 3, 2017 21:55
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CJacobs posted:That would be a fair point if the movie didn't go out of its way to emphasize just how goddamn smart all these people are before they get killed by acting like idiots. It doesn't though. Like I think the most your given in that vein is the assurances of a hologram of a dying old man who just went literal light years away for a chance of immortality based on some ancient runes. We're told they're good but they never demonstrate this and, once again, these are people that took a job that would take years of their life with no information up front.
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Jul 3, 2017 21:56
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No, it's an FPS on PC. It's got 3 campaigns, one for Aliens, Predators, and Humans. It's 3 different perspectives on a shared chain of events. It's pretty cool. edit: As much as I really don't mind chatting about whatever here, there is an entire thread for this argument, where most of this has been said before. So it feels really redundant to say all this again here.
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Jul 3, 2017 21:56
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"horror movie characters act like total dumbasses" is a fine trope but generally the characters are acting like dumbasses in character. Dumbass teenagers are horny and look for a spooky closet to gently caress in, dumbass space marines try to go Rambo on xenomorphs, that kind of thing. The easy thing would have been to write the dumbass scientists as being full of hubris or whatever, but they don't do that, the scientists just act like dumbasses for no reason.
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Jul 3, 2017 22:00
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The campaign in Puyo Puyo Tetris is actually really fun. Though I can tell with a glance which levels I've completed were Puyo Puyo and which were Tetris because I have all three stars in the latter and one star in the former. The Big Bang levels where they give you a half second to place a piece to activate a chain/line have a hilarious discrepancy in difficulty for me. The Tetris levels are "  round ball goes in round hole" while the Puyo levels are like trying to decipher Linear B while someone is stabbing me in the face
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Jul 3, 2017 22:04
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I didn't mean for this to turn into a major derail. I could keep arguing this but I think most people in here don't give a poo poo and I've had this argument way to many times and it never really goes anywhere my I think I've shown that I'm not just trolling when I say I like those movies so how about them video games?
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Jul 3, 2017 22:05
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Jay Rust posted:What's the best Alien-themed video game anyway? Alien: Isolation
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Doom Goon posted:That's kind of what the Lovely Planet sequel did iirc. Though the reviews are higher than the last time I looked (must be due to the Steam rejiggering) it apparently makes it much more of a puzzle game. Lovely Planet Arcade is so, so good
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Jul 3, 2017 22:08
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Jay Rust posted:What's the best Alien-themed video game anyway? Papers, please.
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glam rock hamhock posted:I didn't mean for this to turn into a major derail. I could keep arguing this but I think most people in here don't give a poo poo and I've had this argument way to many times and it never really goes anywhere my I think I've shown that I'm not just trolling when I say I like those movies so how about them video games? Sick new av!
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Jul 3, 2017 22:09
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i was going nuts today because shovel knight was running like garbage on my laptop but then i noticed that it was because they set the default resolution to 1800p for some reason? plague night rules
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Jul 3, 2017 22:11
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psychoJ posted:everything should take a page from the new twin peaks imo. literally everything I wish the new series would inspire television, but there's no way it has the same wide appeal that the original series did. Definitely the greatest thing I've seen on TV, but I can tell it's not for everybody
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Jul 3, 2017 22:12
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Jay Rust posted:What's the best Alien-themed video game anyway? I'm half an hour into Anachronox, and I'm willing to say: Anachronox
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Jul 3, 2017 22:15
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Jay Rust posted:What's the best Alien-themed video game anyway? Enemy Zero also Duskers and Event[0]
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There's a big post in the Alien thread matching up Metroid Games to Alien movies, it's neat.
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Super Metroid Wouldn't Metroid Fusion be more apt?
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CJacobs posted:Yes, but you have to consider that the people that do these senseless things were written by a real person, and I really doubt their thought process was "let's make these people realistically dumb" because that ends up with them being pretty lovely protagonists. why does it make them lovely protagonists like there's this unspoken assumption here that arrogance and stupidity are bad subjects for fiction when in fact, the exact opposite is true
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also I never played Salt & Sanctuary, sorry guy, I couldn't tell you which is better between it and Hollow Knight
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Also the idea that a human writer wouldn't think to write a flawed character. Like, are you really arguing that Tennesee choosing to risk the ship and everyone on board was intended by the writers to be a smart choice by the character, rather than one showing his emotional state trumping the greater good? I don't understand the argument. edit: ^ I havne't played either, and I'd bet that Hollow Knight is better. Everyone's raving about it, and I haven't heard much at all about S&S outside of soulsgames diehards who mostly said it needed a map and was mechanically not that interesting.
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Jay Rust posted:What's the best Alien-themed video game anyway? Arcade AVP
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I played both SS and Hollow Knight. SS is pretty much a 2D souls, granted some of the mechanics can take a bit to get used to with the rolling etc. And yeah there is no map which makes things pretty frustrating. Hollow Knight is very much a platformer, and the combat is pretty good itself. I enjoyed Hollow Knight a bit more, even with the huge areas, once you get certain techniques it makes things a bit more easier to travel through. Plus they are adding a patch with a better fast travel system (even though I think the one that was already in the game was fine) If I had to pick, go with Hollow Knight.
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I liked Salt & Sanctuary but I also really liked the Dishwasher games so combining that with Souls games was pretty rad to me.
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the music and art in hollow knight are also dramatically better than S&S imo; the latter has a gray fog filter effect over just about everything that does it no favors, and while hollow knight has some washed out sections the color schemes and contrasts make everything pop (also fantastic sound effects in those areas)
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please play hollow knightpsychoJ posted:everything should take a page from the new twin peaks imo. literally everything please play trails in the sky lets hang out fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Jul 3, 2017 |
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Jay Rust posted:What's the best Alien-themed video game anyway? Alien 3 on Amiga
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Bought a little indie game from the summer sale, Abzu. One of those little exploration/puzzle games with no dialogue of any kind, leaving you to puzzle through things in a gorgeous world. This one's unique twist is that it's set underwater, and it's everything I'd hoped Subnautica would be. Not a long or complex game, but gorgeous and the controls work pretty well once you figure them out.
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