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 And here we are again. The hiatus months. After what I've determined to be a divisive series, we now reflect on what we've learned: the Master is dead, the Doctor is about to die, and Bill is not-exactly-dead-but-not-exactly-alive. With the Doctor trying to will himself not to regenerate, he runs into the last person you'd expect: himself (or a reasonable facsimile)! What does the First Doctor have to say to the Twelfth Doctor? Hell, what does the Twelfth Doctor have to say to the First Doctor? We'll find out...at Christmas. The Christmas 2017 special will mark not only the departure of Peter Capaldi as the Doctor incumbant, but also the departure of showrunner Steven Moffat. Over the past six series, Doctor Who has continued to grow as a television series, building a mythos of its own just from 2005 onward. That's not to say that Moffat hasn't honoured the past, because holy poo poo Alpha Centauri? Nobody saw that coming! Of course, Moffat's tenure won't just be remembered for the highs. Remember the split series we had in 2011 and 2012/13? That was confusing. Not to mention the lack of a 2016 series, which some regard as an unforgivable sin. Oh, and some episodes that DID air were not very good. In a way, though, it's the same cycle we had in the RTD era. When he announced he was bringing back Doctor Who, we were all 'hooray!' but when he left in 2010, we were all 'thank God'. It's the hoop of existence. So, now what you may ask? Well, if you're an American (and possibly if you're a Canadian), I have good news! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWwJLqjoCfc If the video won't play outside of North America, here's the deal: RiffTrax is going to riff on The Five Doctors, live in cinemas across America (and maybe Canada) on August 17th! If you don't see it live (or see its encore a week later), don't fret - Mike, Kevin, and Bill usually put up an audio file of the jokes you sync manually...eventually. We're still waiting on the Mothra riff from last year. If you're on the fence about going, what is wrong with you? It's RiffTrax! They're really funny! (note: I am also the OP of the RiffTrax thread in CD) After that, well, I'm sure there's SOME Doctor Who material you haven't digested yet. Whether it's a book, a comic, or an audio drama, it's almost impossible to keep up with all the adventures out there. I say ALMOST impossible, because there's a website that kept up with literally every Doctor Who story of every kind that hasn't updated since the Day of the Doctor. If some  out there wants to run with it, I'm all for it!The previous thread can be found here. Now for the formalities. NO SPOILERS By edict of the moderators, this is a SPOILER-FREE ZONE. Other than backstage stuff (hiring people), DO NOT POST SPOILERS. AT ALL. Even if the Washington Post reveals video of Donald Trump handing a big stack of government secrets to Vladimir Putin and one of the papers is labeled 'Martha Jones is a Rutan', DON'T POST IT HERE. If you must post about spoilers, go to the spoiler thread. Episode titles can be spoiler-y, so use discretion when discussing episodes yet to air. For example, 'Hide' doesn't spoil anything, but 'OH poo poo IT'S THE DALEKS' does. WHERE DO I START? If you want to start with the revival, you should start with The most popular serials for the original series you can jump into are: First Doctor: An Unearthly Child, The Aztecs Second Doctor: The Tomb of the Cybermen, The Enemy of the World Third Doctor: Spearhead from Space, Carnival of Monsters Fourth Doctor: Pyramids of Mars, The Robots of Death Fifth Doctor: Kinda, Frontios Sixth Doctor: Vengeance on Varos, Revelation of the Daleks Seventh Doctor: Dragonfire, Remembrance of the Daleks WHERE CAN I WATCH DOCTOR WHO ON TELEVISION? Original Series: USA - Retro TV, some PBS stations Australia - Syfy UK and Canada - you're out of luck Current Series: UK - BBC One (first run), Watch USA - BBC America (first run), most PBS stations Canada - Space Australia - ABC1 (first run), ABC2, Syfy WHERE CAN I STREAM DOCTOR WHO? Original Series: USA - BritBox* Everyone else - you're out of luck (Australians can watch the TV movie on Stan, though!) *Day of the Daleks, Planet of the Daleks, the Five Doctors, Resurrection of the Daleks, Revelation of the Daleks, and Remembrance of the Daleks are not available, along with any serial missing at least one episode. Current Series: UK - Netflix USA - Amazon Video Canada - CraveTV Australia - Netflix & Stan SHOULD I BUY THE DVDs AND BLU RAYS? Just for the bonus features alone. AN INCREASINGLY LESS BRIEF GUIDE TO BIG FINISH There are hundreds, probably thousands of Doctor Who and Doctor Who-related audio dramas released by Big Finish Productions. This is not a post telling you what audio dramas to listen to, because everyone has an opinion that is different from everyone else (some people like Minuet in Hell, believe it or not). This is a post telling you the basic info on the different series of titles there are. I'm only covering ongoing ranges, since devoting a paragraph to the Stage Plays seems a bit silly. If you're wondering why I'm about to spend a good portion of the OP about audio dramas, you are clearly new to the Doctor Who thread. The Monthly Range Since 1999, Big Finish have released, on a consistent basis, mostly standalone stories featuring the Fifth, Sixth, and Seventh (formerly including Eighth) Doctors. Up to 227th(!) release this month. The Fourth Doctor Adventures Tom Baker gets his own line of releases. Philip Hinchcliffe Presents Back on again! Another Tom Baker line of releases, all based on stories written by former showrunner Philip Hinchcliffe. The New Adventures of Bernice Summerfield Sylvester McCoy (and later, David Warner) plays a supporting role to Bernice Summerfield, a companion introduced in the Virgin New Adventures line of books. Novel Adaptations Based on Virgin New Adventures and Virgin Missing Adventures, the book ranges that lasted Doctor Who fans from 1991 to 1997. The Eighth Doctor Adventures / Dark Eyes / Doom Coalition Paul McGann's Doctor also gets his own line. Goons love 'em. The Tenth Doctor Adventures David Tennant reprises his role in mini-seasons every chance he can get, and the results are very RTD-like. In a good way! The Companion Chronicles / The Early Adventures This is important: SOME OF THESE ARE NOT AUDIO DRAMAS. These are "enhanced audiobooks" for the most part, which means that one person does all the parts while another gives narration, but also contains sound effects and music cues. The Companion Chronicles originally were one-handers, but now may contain small casts, which the Early Adventure always have. Spinoffs There are a ton of these, ranging from good (I, Davros) to who gives a poo poo (anything involving a companion from the audio series). THE TOXXUPATION THREAD WITH A VENGEANCE It's back! Watch in amazement as the forums user currently known as Lick! The! Whisk! puts his writing skills to the test in describing his thoughts on the most recent series. They will be wrong. FINALLY, let's take a look back to the year 2007! serotet posted:Motion: The Cybermen Have Never Had A Defining Classic Story. The more things change, the more they stay the same! Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! 
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I see you've changed things. I don't like it.
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Jul 5, 2017 00:27
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Where are the round things? I love those...
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Jul 5, 2017 00:29
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A good thread title  I wonder if we'll finally get an extended version of 12's anniversary scene considering what a stickler Moffat is for continuity.
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Jul 5, 2017 00:44
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I bring Sutekh's gift of adorable scamp grandpa Bill Hartnell
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Jul 5, 2017 00:45
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I watched Space Museum literally just so I would have context for that GIF. I was not disappointed.
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Jul 5, 2017 00:51
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Jul 5, 2017 00:59
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all-Rush mixtape posted:THE TOXXUPATION THREAD WITH A VENGEANCE Or utter lack thereof...
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Jul 5, 2017 01:07
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I'm gonna go through the first doctor over the next few months in anticipation of the first doctor in the Christmas Special.
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Jul 5, 2017 02:05
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Capaldi is done? Thank goodness. Now I can begin watching this again. (Never did take to him)
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Jul 5, 2017 02:32
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Fog Tripper posted:Capaldi is done? Thank goodness. Now I can begin watching this again. His last episode will be the Christmas Special this year, from next year the showrunner will be Chris Chibnal and a new actor who is yet to be named as the Doctor. So if you haven't enjoyed the show recently, it'll be a good jumping on point for a completely fresh start.
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Jul 5, 2017 02:36
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Jerusalem posted:His last episode will be the Christmas Special this year, from next year the showrunner will be Chris Chibnal and a new actor who is yet to be named as the Doctor. So if you haven't enjoyed the show recently, it'll be a good jumping on point for a completely fresh start. Yar, I watched everything since the reboot all the way to the first few Capaldi. It felt like he was trying too hard or something. Just couldn't dig it.
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Fog Tripper posted:Yar, I watched everything since the reboot all the way to the first few Capaldi. It felt like he was trying too hard or something. Just couldn't dig it. For what it's worth the most recent season was a huge step up from Capaldi's previous ones, and the new companions were fantastic. E: Forgot which thread I was in. Doctor Spaceman fucked around with this message at 02:44 on Jul 5, 2017 |
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Jul 5, 2017 02:42
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Fog Tripper posted:Yar, I watched everything since the reboot all the way to the first few Capaldi. It felt like he was trying too hard or something. Just couldn't dig it. Give this new season a shot. Capaldi was initially hamstrung by some really inconsistent scripts and a forced "am I a good man?" shtick. He's an absolute joy now that he's comfortable in the role.
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Jul 5, 2017 02:45
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Jul 5, 2017 02:47
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Capaldi has some of the best episodes of the revival, including Listen and Heaven Sent, so I'm sad that so many people missed out on him because the first half of his intro episode was a complete and utter mess.
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Jul 5, 2017 03:13
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Bicyclops posted:Capaldi has some of the best episodes of the revival, including Listen and Heaven Sent, so I'm sad that so many people missed out on him because the first half of his intro episode was a complete and utter mess. His whole first season is an inconsistent mess and the series 9 episodes with Ashildr and the Zygon two-parter are some of the revival's worst. Even the TVIV threads have seen a gradual decline in activity during Capaldi's run. I love the guy and I love 12, but I'm almost surprised he isn't less popular.
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Jul 5, 2017 03:29
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Series 8 was better than series 10, and Capaldi's Doctor was more interesting then. Not that series 10 is bad by any means, or that he isn't interesting in it. It's no insult to say "the second best series is better than this"
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Jul 5, 2017 03:38
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Yeah I still really like Series 8, though the first half of Deep Breath really is pretty awful. Series 9 was the problem season for Capaldi in my opinion. It seemed they were going for something all through the season and then they just kind of.... weren't (and that's not even taking into account the deliberate false leads of the Hybrid bullshit). It does have Heaven Sent though which is just a fantastic episode.
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Jul 5, 2017 03:42
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There are huge portions of Hell Bent that I like too, it just has a little too much grandstanding on Gallifrey, with literal lines in the sand and whatnot. Clara had a rough beginning and some of the "they hate each other now!" stuff was poorly managed, but I really like the way that she went out.
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Jul 5, 2017 03:49
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It's a terrible shame that Peter Capaldi was wasted on Stephen Moffat.
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Jul 5, 2017 03:58
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Arglebargle III posted:It's a terrible shame that Peter Capaldi was wasted on Stephen Moffat. It wouldn't be so bad if this was just a job for Capaldi, but he's clearly a huge fan that loves the role and absolutely deserved better.
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Jul 5, 2017 04:01
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I like watching Doctor Who and I would watch a new episode every week for the whole year. I might rewatch the entire revival next, as I have a fuzzy memory of much of the RTD era. I still have quite a few reconstructed stories from 1 and 2 as well (the last one I watched was The Daleks' Master Plan). On top of that I'm going travelling for the next few weeks, and I think I'll take all of the humblebundle audios that I've squirrelled away for a rainy day.
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Jul 5, 2017 04:05
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I rewatched the whole revival right as the last series was about to start, it was p good fun. I even had time to re-rewatch all the Capaldi episodes in time for The Doctor Falls
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Jul 5, 2017 04:21
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Oh and just as a follow-up from the last thread, everybody was right and Big Finish were quick to fix MY gently caress-up on that volume of First Doctor stories without issue. Big Finish are great.
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Jul 5, 2017 04:25
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CommonShore posted:
That's what I'm doing now. I only sort of half tune in so that I can do other stuff while I'm watching (I still don't know what the Wire's motivation was, really and for the third time, I missed the Werewolf's little speech), and it's been fun.
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Jul 5, 2017 04:25
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I decided to start with Day of the Doctor, since it was literally the first story I watched and I've only watched it once. I've already noticed two fanservice easter eggs in the first minute. This will be a radically different experience this time around.
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Jul 5, 2017 04:29
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As a very casual Doctor Who fan, Capaldi was miles better than Matt Smith, and even better than most of Tenant. Also, Clara is by far the best companion.
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Jul 5, 2017 04:33
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Box of Bunnies posted:I bring Sutekh's gift of adorable scamp grandpa Bill Hartnell They need to have David Bradley recreate this scene.  Also I'd like to add my 2 cents (or pence? Is that what you guys do?) to this: quote:The Companion Chronicles / The Early Adventures The original brief with these was they were single hander audiobooks, but as they lines go on they really blur them with multiple cast members and you have guys like Frazier Hines and Peter Purves doing imitations of Doctors 2 and 1 that are pretty drat perfect, so the newer ones are no different than a full cast audio to my ears. There's still the odd narration which I wish they'd give up though.
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Jul 5, 2017 05:20
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Astroman posted:There's still the odd narration which I wish they'd give up though. I like the narration in the Early Adventures line. Makes it feel like one of the audio releases of the lost episodes where they have Peter Purves or Anneke Wills or whoever do linking narration over the off-screen soundtrack recording.
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Jul 5, 2017 05:29
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Ok here's one continuity error/question in Day of the Doctor- If 12 participated in the stasis of Gallifrey, how does 11 remember? Wouldn't 12 be the only one who remembers because he's the one farthest down the time stream?
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Jul 5, 2017 05:38
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Thanks for the heads up on the Companion Chronicles - I've said it in previous threads, but I'm not a fan of the 'enhanced audiobook' format, so I've kind of got a blank spot in regards to that series.
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CommonShore posted:Ok here's one continuity error/question in Day of the Doctor- 12 takes part in 11's scheme, presumably without showing up and telling 11 he was doing so. So 11 remembers gathering all the other Doctors and trying to save Gallifrey, but has no knowledge that there's an extra TARDIS in there too. 12 remembers that he popped in to throw in some help just to make absolutely sure it worked, having gotten another few hundred years to perfect the calculations. Of course the real answer is that it was a complicated delivery system for that amazing,"No sir.... all THIRTEEN!" line 
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Jul 5, 2017 05:46
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Jerusalem posted:12 takes part in 11's scheme, presumably without showing up and telling 11 he was doing so. I guess that makes sense enough (e. meaning sense enough for suspension of disbelief in a patchwork show about time travel) because 11 still isn't confident about how Trenzalore will turn out, and knowing about 12 would confirm for him that he survives and gets more regenerations.
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Jul 5, 2017 06:10
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I don't know the reason for all those missing stories on britbox in the OP, but I'm going to go out on a limb and guess Terry Nation's estate being arsey?
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Jul 5, 2017 06:45
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Wolfechu posted:I don't know the reason for all those missing stories on britbox in the OP, but I'm going to go out on a limb and guess Terry Nation's estate being arsey? More or less. Or not necessarily arsey, but at the very least incurring extra expense. When the ABC here did a complete run through of the classic series for the 40th anniversary they skipped over all of the Dalek stories because those required separate negotiations with the Nation estate so they just said "gently caress it."
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Jul 5, 2017 06:52
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Well I have now seen the most amazing Doctor Who merchandise ever; There are little Mr. Men Doctor Who books, titled Dr. One, all the way to Dr. Twelve .
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Arglebargle III posted:It's a terrible shame that Peter Capaldi was wasted on Stephen Moffat.
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Does anybody else have the problem where they've rewatched the revival episodes so many times they've tapped them dry? I guess I could start on the Martha season again.
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