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So, first panel Colossal > Mule > New > Beast. Second panel (from top to bottom) Armored > New > Mule > Beast > Female I always figured it was something like that but I didn't realize New was a specific titan.
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Conspiratiorist posted:So, first panel Colossal > Mule > New > Beast. Think top 1st is Attack Titan. And its Mule > Attack > Female. It doesn't have the pointed ears
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Jul 5, 2017 06:33
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I'd say that the big ol' horse in the second panel could also be a representation of the Beast Titan. Since we know the shifters' forms can vary significantly person to person (compare Grisha' Attack Titan to Eren's, or the Galliard's Jaw Titan to Ymir's), maybe that shifter had a predilection for horses in the same way Zeke apparently liked monkeys.
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Jul 5, 2017 06:36
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In It For The Tank posted:Anyway, based on the general progression of these chapters, I guarantee that next chapter will feature a flashback of Reiner, Bertolt, and Annie's attack on Wall Maria, and it will be juxtaposed by Armin and Eren's attack on Liberio. I'd like that, I don't care about the ethical ramifications if means a good role reversal and mirrored brutality if only for the catharsis it would bring our angry little protag, dude hasn't gotten to indulge in quite a while
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Jul 5, 2017 07:25
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Okay, caught up with the manga after not having read it for a few months. What the gently caress is going on?! I feel like I'm reading a timeskip that is also a flashback that explains gently caress all about what's going on while also having all the answers in plain sight. To my understanding, basically the entire manga and Eren's team up to this point are just one isolated island that have little to nothing to do with the greater world, kay cool turns out there was no apocalypse, that's a neat twist, and the rest of the world is making their way towards WW1 level technology and weapons and getting the upper hand on this other county that's been using Titans the entire time, makes sense, but holy gently caress could the manga choose a worse way to get that information across? I feel like if I'd been reading this as it was released I'd have gone nuts
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Jul 5, 2017 11:59
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Well, we did have a timeskip and now there's a bunch of flashbacks as we see the other side of Reiner's story so that's more or less accurate? It sounds like you caught all the important points.
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Jul 5, 2017 12:58
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In It For The Tank posted:This chapter also reveals the final titan shifter, the so-called "Warhammer Titan" in the fan translation I read. It's design is a little different from what we've seen before, but I kind of dig it. 
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Jul 5, 2017 19:55
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Nice to see the final titan revealed and a description of the titans. Colossal - Bigger than big Founder - Mind fucks and control Jaw - Big chompers and cardio Cart - Energizer bunny, never stops Armor - Gets hard Beast - Good throw Female - Brings the boys to the yard Attack - Can't get enough FREEDOM Warhammer - Attack roll 5d6
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Jul 5, 2017 21:45
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SatansBestBuddy posted:Okay, caught up with the manga after not having read it for a few months. Its bad enough the names and faces are string to smash together and I barely remember everything they reference.
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Jul 5, 2017 21:45
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Here's an early translation.
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Jul 5, 2017 21:50
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Is that Ymir eating the dude? I can barely tell people apart in this series sometimes; let alone titans.
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Jul 5, 2017 22:34
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It's yet another flashback of Ymir eating Marcel.
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Jul 5, 2017 22:36
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Finally caught with the manga. I didn't believe the stuff found in Grisha's basement will actually live up to my expectations, but it was probably one of the best reveals I have ever seen. Right now I'm trying to find Eren's lookalike in Marley, but can't see him. Is he supposed to be somewhere in 093?
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Jul 5, 2017 22:50
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He is, speculatively, the black haired scraggly dude whose face is conspicuously not shown amidst the wounded crazy ptsd soldiers in a recent chapter.
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Jul 5, 2017 23:03
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Gantolandon posted:Finally caught with the manga. I didn't believe the stuff found in Grisha's basement will actually live up to my expectations, but it was probably one of the best reveals I have ever seen. People are speculating that the shell shocked Eldian with the armband on the wrong arm and missing limbs could be Eren because they look similar, and that person's face has been obscured in ways that seem deliberate. This chapter wasn't the big turn we might have been hoping for, but it's giving us more context on the relationship between the Marley and the non-Paradise Eldians and is locking in the end game. Specifically, the existence of Teiber family shows that the Eldian condition in Marley is more complicated that we first thought, and the meeting scene gives us more insight into Zeke and his plans for the Eldians. I also think the chapter supports my general theory that there are clans of Eldians that have specific affinities to specific Titans, likely due to them being descendants of the original 9 titan power carriers.
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Jul 5, 2017 23:19
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ATP_Power posted:This chapter wasn't the big turn we might have been hoping for, but it's giving us more context on the relationship between the Marley and the non-Paradise Eldians and is locking in the end game. Specifically, the existence of Teiber family shows that the Eldian condition in Marley is more complicated that we first thought, and the meeting scene gives us more insight into Zeke and his plans for the Eldians. It has also shown that the universe exists solely to crush Reiner's self-esteem any time he manages to build up any.
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Jul 5, 2017 23:59
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man reiner's life sucks doesn't it every time I think his backstory is done making GBS threads on him, it does it again
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Jul 6, 2017 00:04
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Conspiratiorist posted:It's yet another flashback of Ymir eating Marcel. Specifically it shows a part of their backstory that was shown this season in the show, where they're camping and Ymir comes out of the ground to attack them. This hadn't actually been clarified yet in the manga (how one mindless titan got the jump on a well trained team of warriors), so I'm assuming that's one of the changes Isayama wanted to make with the anime as far as the sequencing of certain flashbacks. Also thought it was interesting that Marcel had to actively sabotage Porkman to get Reiner the armored titan -- apparently even undying loyalty wasn't enough to earn him a top 6 spot without some extra help.
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Jul 6, 2017 00:22
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Manatee Cannon posted:man reiner's life sucks doesn't it It's his punishment for hitting on Historia.
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Jul 6, 2017 01:37
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And it really shows Reiner was the worst candidate. First he lost against Eren in wrestling (tho Bert saved him). Then got bodied by Eren's hardening fists in Shiganshina. Then his years of combat training as the Armor was countered by a jerry-rigged explosive device designed by people who learned about electricity 2 months prior (tho Bert saved him again with titan magic). Then he got owned by the same explosive, this time without Eren's help. Hell he couldn't even get through his first genocide without his personality splitting.
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Jul 6, 2017 02:00
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to be fair, if reiner had gotten eaten by ymir instead of the actually competent guy, they'd have been utterly screwed by mikasa or levy. annie and bert had ways to counter them but the jaw titan would have been insanely dead
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Jul 6, 2017 02:07
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Sub Harrison posted:And it really shows Reiner was the worst candidate. First he lost against Eren in wrestling (tho Bert saved him). Then got bodied by Eren's hardening fists in Shiganshina. Then his years of combat training as the Armor was countered by a jerry-rigged explosive device designed by people who learned about electricity 2 months prior (tho Bert saved him again with titan magic). Then he got owned by the same explosive, this time without Eren's help. Hell he couldn't even get through his first genocide without his personality splitting. Wasn't it mentioned that like Mikasa he was also way ahead of the other trainees? Maybe his problem was confidence than ability. In which case maybe it was his soldier delusions that made him actually competent.
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Jul 6, 2017 02:19
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The core tragedy of Reiner's character is that the only time he was ever happy was among the 104th training corps, because it was the only time he was ever respected. As a warrior, life (and those around him) just shits on him endlessly.
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Jul 6, 2017 03:24
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SatansBestBuddy posted:kay cool turns out there was no apocalypse
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Jul 6, 2017 04:44
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Sub Harrison posted:And it really shows Reiner was the worst candidate. First he lost against Eren in wrestling (tho Bert saved him). Then got bodied by Eren's hardening fists in Shiganshina. Then his years of combat training as the Armor was countered by a jerry-rigged explosive device designed by people who learned about electricity 2 months prior (tho Bert saved him again with titan magic). Then he got owned by the same explosive, this time without Eren's help. Hell he couldn't even get through his first genocide without his personality splitting. He has also blown his cover in the most spectacular way possible - by telling the avatar of vengeance he had killed his mother, then trying to kidnap him when his scary sister was watching.
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Jul 6, 2017 08:24
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The anti-titan technology that is from inside the walls is vastly superior to even modern day technology in many respects. The grappling hook jetpacks and explosive piledrivers are crazy advanced for the time period, don't downplay their technological advancement, or reiner not understanding their purpose until it was too late.
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Jul 6, 2017 09:58
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Captain Invictus posted:The anti-titan technology that is from inside the walls is vastly superior to even modern day technology in many respects. The grappling hook jetpacks and explosive piledrivers are crazy advanced for the time period, don't downplay their technological advancement, or reiner not understanding their purpose until it was too late.
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Jul 6, 2017 10:27
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No, they just had the walldian equivalent of DaVinci cook those up. It's a black box because they kept technology suppressed, so while the 3DMG was allowed, the monarchy didn't want it or its principles developed further by the public.
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Jul 6, 2017 13:15
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Sub Harrison posted:Nice to see the final titan revealed and a description of the titans. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AckxOWz868k&t=80s lmao at female, thats just a mr show skit
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Jul 6, 2017 21:05
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Yeah it made sense when the survey corps were calling Annie the female titan because every other titan (pure or shifter) they had seen up to that point had been male/androgynous. It's a little weird that the Marley folks also call that one the female titan despite having a much better understanding of its power that would presumably allow them to give it a name that demonstrates what it actually does.
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Jul 6, 2017 21:18
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Didn't Frieda's version of the founding titan also have female characteristics too?
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Jul 6, 2017 21:20
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ATP_Power posted:Didn't Frieda's version of the founding titan also have female characteristics too? It did, yeah.
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Jul 6, 2017 21:26
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JahRoo posted:Yeah it made sense when the survey corps were calling Annie the female titan because every other titan (pure or shifter) they had seen up to that point had been male/androgynous. It's a little weird that the Marley folks also call that one the female titan despite having a much better understanding of its power that would presumably allow them to give it a name that demonstrates what it actually does. Unless the female titan always has female characteristics regardless of who is chosen. I'd assume it's the common points across holders that earn them the name. Plus, note how the mythological titan drawings always have a bunch of giant men plus one giant woman (aside from the mythological Ymir herself).
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Jul 6, 2017 21:48
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It's simple. Clearly, the Female Titan is the Queen, the Founder is the King, Colossal and Jaw are Bishops, Beast and Mule are Knights, Armored and Warhammer are Rooks, and the Attack is a Pawn.
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Jul 6, 2017 21:55
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Kyte posted:Unless the female titan always has female characteristics regardless of who is chosen. I'd assume it's the common points across holders that earn them the name. I assume the explanation has to do with how the 9 powers are supposed to represent different aspects of the original Ymir, so the female titan represents her being a woman. The only way to know for sure is for Connie or Jean to inherit Annie's power. ATP_Power posted:Didn't Frieda's version of the founding titan also have female characteristics too? I sort of assumed that the founding titan more closely resembles the appearance of its user than the others do, since we see a few different versions of it in manga flashbacks and the only female forms are held by women. We don't see Grisha's attack titan again after he eats Frieda so it's hard to say if mixing lines had any effect on the appearance.
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Jul 6, 2017 22:02
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ATP_Power posted:Didn't Frieda's version of the founding titan also have female characteristics too? It did, but only after she ate Uri. On the frame she's about to eat him, her titan looks male.
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Jul 6, 2017 22:54
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This chapter makes it sound a bit like there's going to be a setup to make the Paradisians look like they're responsible for an international incident, which might be an excellent opportunity for an incognito Eren to intervene and throw egg all over Marley's face. Like, in political terms, the world is pissed off at Marley because they're the ones using the Titans as superweapons. Their beef with Paradis is hundreds of years old, which is long enough for even the most firey outrage to cool off. It might seem a little cut and dry as a solution goes, but if they can expose a Marleyan attempt to kill a bunch of diplomats as a means of constructing a pretense for invasion, they might be able to guarantee a meager degree of safety for any Eldians who have the sense to defect. or maybe i've been reading too much kingdom
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Jul 7, 2017 01:32
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I'm curious as to what the opinion of the Eldian people is outside of Marley. Zeke and co seem pretty convinced that it's unnegotiable genocidal hatred, but how much of that is Marleyan propaganda? Moreover, I wonder if people from other nations distinguish between the two. For all the Marleyan government portrays its people as superior to the Eldians, I imagine anybody from outside the country would lump them together as "those fuckers that control the titans."
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Jul 7, 2017 01:42
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I wonder if some of the titans, like the Attack Titan and Female Titan are even supposed to have any unique powers. Was the Female Titan's "scream and attract mindless titans" thing a unique ability of hers? Heck, even the armor titan doesn't necessarily seem to have unique powers, since Eren have been learning to harden parts of his body as well.
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