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DivisionPost
Jun 28, 2006

Nobody likes you.
Everybody hates you.
You're gonna lose.

Smile, you fuck.

Several Goblins posted:

So Couch Chat, I'm some sort of weird crazy person who has watched almost nothing but movies for my entire life. I've only seen a small handful of TV shows to completion, and a few episodes or first seasons here and there. And most of what I've watched have been recent. My girlfriend and co-workers have been telling me to catch up on stuff for forever now and I'm just now getting around to doing it. I've seen the following shows in their entirety:

Firefly
Deadwood
Westworld
Twin Peaks
Fargo
True Detective
American Gods
The Walking Dead
Legion

And uhh....that's it. I think I have a long way to go. :aaa:

I got your back. Three shows that might be up your alley that you can catch up on real easily via Netflix: Wynonna Earp, Person of Interest, and Friday Night Lights. You can probably wait on FNL, it's nothing like the shows you've listed above, but it's considered one of the great TV dramas for a reason and it's a good show to have in your back pocket when you're up for something a little different. Just give the pilot a shot if you're feeling adventurous. Aside from a harsh dip in Season 2, that's pretty much the show.

Wynonna I can't personally vouch for, but if you dug Firefly you'll definitely dig that based on what I've heard about it. Person of Interest I can vouch for, and if you're a fan of Westworld you'll absolutely want to hit that up, as it was Jonathan Nolan's first TV show and it covers a lot of similar ground as Westworld. Now, the first season's going to feel a little slow because it's a CBS procedural and, uh, they're usually made for an older crowd. But give it like 7-13 episodes to get its gait, and then if you start feeling it by then, watch it just improve season after season.

You interested in comedies at all?

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pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

muscles like this! posted:

Hey, remember that whole "Amelia Earhart photo" thing that blew up last week and was the subject of another overblown History channel special?

Whomp whomp
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/11/blogger-discredits-claim-amelia-earhart-was-taken-prisoner-by-japan
A blogger by the name of Kota Yamano says it took him less than 30 minutes to completely debunk the theory and he did it by the complicated method of "typing the name of the island into a public archive website."

"Quick, cast a new spin off of Pawn Stars to divert people's attention!"

Several Goblins
Jul 30, 2006

"What the hell do they mean? Beefcake?"


DivisionPost posted:

I got your back. Three shows that might be up your alley that you can catch up on real easily via Netflix: Wynonna Earp, Person of Interest, and Friday Night Lights. You can probably wait on FNL, it's nothing like the shows you've listed above, but it's considered one of the great TV dramas for a reason and it's a good show to have in your back pocket when you're up for something a little different. Just give the pilot a shot if you're feeling adventurous. Aside from a harsh dip in Season 2, that's pretty much the show.

Wynonna I can't personally vouch for, but if you dug Firefly you'll definitely dig that based on what I've heard about it. Person of Interest I can vouch for, and if you're a fan of Westworld you'll absolutely want to hit that up, as it was Jonathan Nolan's first TV show and it covers a lot of similar ground as Westworld. Now, the first season's going to feel a little slow because it's a CBS procedural and, uh, they're usually made for an older crowd. But give it like 7-13 episodes to get its gait, and then if you start feeling it by then, watch it just improve season after season.

You interested in comedies at all?

Thanks for the recommendations! I've been reading good things about Wynonna Earp and it seems fun. Person of Interest was definitely on my radar too, but I didn't know it was Nolan as well, so I'll bump that up my priority list. Friday Night Lights I will give a chance because of the general clout it's got for being a good show, even if the subject material doesn't necessarily leap out at me. I'm not terribly picky, which is why I've seen an unholy amount of movies and can see myself diving pretty deep into the decades of tv show backlog I have.

Comedies will probably be the hardest sell for me. I'm not exactly sure how you would want to separate the genres, but I have liked what I've seen of Archer and Always Sunny in Philadelphia, while stuff like HIMYM, Parks & Rec and The Office aren't really my thing, based on what I've seen of them. Generally I think I'd be more consistently on board with heavier material or black comedy (Fargo), but like I said, I'm open-minded.

Several Goblins fucked around with this message at 04:08 on Jul 12, 2017

JethroMcB
Jan 23, 2004

We're normal now.
We love your family.

Mu Zeta posted:

I've never seen Vinyl but I also have heard absolutely nothing about it from anyone. Even John from Cincinnati had more fans.

After the pilot I thought of Vinyl as a heavy-handed but entertaining show. It then burned that modicum of goodwill almost immediately by turning Bobby Canavale's character from "standard middle aged white antihero" to "raging rear end in a top hat that is unpleasant to watch" in very short order.
It chased a bunch of half baked storylines all season (What's Richie going to name his sublabel???? The white kid who lost his job as an A&R guy is going to invent disco because he is exposed to black and latino culture working in the mailroom!!! And don't forget this bullshit Mob murder subplot somebody thought was absolutely necessary - no very successful period show about the inner workings of a business has succeeded without one!) and more or less wasted a great supporting cast. It also did a Tyler Durden episode where it was apparent in the very first scene that the character was not actually there, but strung it out for the entire hour and played out the reveal as though it were genuinely original and shocking. Bad show. Real bad show.

That said, it looked great. The costuming, hair and makeup were solid, and the production design was top notch (Looking good was about the only reason I stuck it out to the end.) Checking the behind-the-scenes talent for The Deuce on IMDB there are art department folks with credits on Mad Men, The Americans, other HBO shows, etc., so I'm confident that it will deliver on that front, at the very least.

Several Goblins posted:

So Couch Chat, I'm some sort of weird crazy person who has watched almost nothing but movies for my entire life.

Watch The Sopranos.

JethroMcB fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Jul 12, 2017

DivisionPost
Jun 28, 2006

Nobody likes you.
Everybody hates you.
You're gonna lose.

Smile, you fuck.

Several Goblins posted:

Comedies will probably be the hardest sell for me. I'm not exactly sure how you would want to separate the genres, but I have liked what I've seen of Archer and Always Sunny in Philadelphia, while stuff like HIMYM, Parks & Rec and The Office aren't really my thing, based on what I've seen of them. Generally I think I'd be more consistently on board with heavier material or black comedy (Fargo), but like I said, I'm open-minded.

Okay, you're going to want to check out a show called BoJack Horseman; the main character is actually my avatar (though the quote is from The Last Boy Scout). Again, you're gonna need patience for this one, because it deliberately starts off as this punny, MacFarlane-esque Hollywood satire that isn't afraid of a well executed Dad joke. It's an element that'll remain through the series, but...I don't want to say too much. Just trust that I picked that quote for a reason.

The 4th season of BoJack actually drops on September 8, so it's a perfect time to catch up, too!

I'd also suggest You're the Worst, which runs on FXX (and the 4th season of that show starts September 6) and is streamed on Hulu. I'm not super-confident it'll work for you because it's a romantic comedy at heart, but it's a MEAN romantic comedy that deals with some heavy issues like depression, abandonment, and resentment of one's family (parents or spouse)...it can be brutal, which makes the genuinely sweet and uplifting moments stand out more.

And yeah, what JethroMcB said: Watch The Sopranos.

DivisionPost fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Jul 12, 2017

Several Goblins
Jul 30, 2006

"What the hell do they mean? Beefcake?"


JethroMcB posted:

Watch The Sopranos.

It's on my list! My long, long extensive list that will last me for the next decade of tv watching.

DivisionPost posted:

BoJack & You're the Worst

I'll check both of these out. I've seen BoJack on Netflix, but haven't watched it. I'm definitely into a well-executed Dad joke. Seems like it could be up my alley. You're the Worst - Romantic comedy is not up my alley, but MEAN romantic comedy that deals with heavier subjects grabs me a bit, so I'll give it a shot.

Thanks again for the recommendations. I thought a few folks might be interested in seeing me dive face-first into shows they've loved forever and I've had zero exposure to. I'll post some updates as I go along. :)

DivisionPost
Jun 28, 2006

Nobody likes you.
Everybody hates you.
You're gonna lose.

Smile, you fuck.

Several Goblins posted:

Thanks again for the recommendations. I thought a few folks might be interested in seeing me dive face-first into shows they've loved forever and I've had zero exposure to. I'll post some updates as I go along. :)

Oh, if that's your plan, then definitely check back in with me if you get up to Bojack #1.11.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006
My wife and I finally caught up with the most recent Wynonna Earp episode tonight, after a fun binge over the last week and a half. We're in it to win it now. What a fun show. I heard about it here first, and I'm happy to see so many people are jumping on board at the same time.

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer
I'm on episode 8 right now. Waverly is my favorite character.

I love how everyone in town hates Wynonna. They sell it a lot better than in the early seasons of Buffy.

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
Feel free to disregard this post.

It is guaranteed to be lazy, ignorant, and/or uninformed.
Whatever happened to the Battlestar Galactica thread cause I am rewatching the series and holy poo poo I had forgotten just how drat good it was.

PriorMarcus
Oct 17, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT BEING ALLERGIC TO POSITIVITY

Vinyl was a genuinely terrible show. Probably the worst prestige show in recent years. Bobby Carnivale having zero charisma didn't help his character and the show runner being an awfully boring writer tanked it. Seriously between Boardwalk and Vinyl HBO must of been desperate to burn all bridges with that guy. What an incredible achievement it was to turn those subject matters into boring poo poo.

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005

precision posted:

I'm really surprised nobody has tried to do a TV show of Dazed and Confused, it would probably be great.

YES I KNOW THAT 70s SHOW EXISTED, my point still stands

Have you seen Freaks and Geeks? It took place in 1980 I think actually, but it still was what popped into my mind so maybe worth a shot.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Several Goblins, I'd like to throw my hat into the ring for Sopranos. Still my personal favourite show of all time. Also, I assume nobody's mentioned it because it's the most obvious possible answer and you've probably already heard it from people outside of this forum, but Breaking Bad is essential.

As far as comedies, have you seen Arrested Development? (sorry if this was brought up and I missed it)

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






Drunk Driver Dad posted:

Have you seen Freaks and Geeks? It took place in 1980 I think actually, but it still was what popped into my mind so maybe worth a shot.

The 80s didn't really start until about late '82, anyway.

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005

McSpanky posted:

The 80s didn't really start until about late '82, anyway.

Ah, good. I was born in 85 and I haven't seen Dazed and Confused in a really long time so I was afraid someone would be like "hey you idiot those two are nothing alike!" even though in my mind they are.

SunshineDanceParty
Feb 7, 2006

One Road. Two Friends. One Ass.

precision posted:

I'm really surprised nobody has tried to do a TV show of Dazed and Confused, it would probably be great.

YES I KNOW THAT 70s SHOW EXISTED, my point still stands

I don't know. Dazed and Confused works because its one day in a 70's high school world. A long form version of that would run into a lot of complications.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Several Goblins posted:

So Couch Chat, I'm some sort of weird crazy person who has watched almost nothing but movies for my entire life. I've only seen a small handful of TV shows to completion, and a few episodes or first seasons here and there. And most of what I've watched have been recent. My girlfriend and co-workers have been telling me to catch up on stuff for forever now and I'm just now getting around to doing it. I've seen the following shows in their entirety:

Firefly
Deadwood
Westworld
Twin Peaks
Fargo
True Detective
American Gods
The Walking Dead
Legion

And uhh....that's it. I think I have a long way to go. :aaa:

Ok fella, I gotcha covered:

Buffy the Vampire Slayer/Angel
The Sopranos
The Wire
24
Prison Break
Battlestar Galactica
Lost
Game of Thrones
Breaking Bad
Daredevil/Jessica Jones/Luke Cage
Sense8
Mr. Robot

That should get you through all the essentials

SunshineDanceParty
Feb 7, 2006

One Road. Two Friends. One Ass.
Why is The Life and Times of Tim not on HBO Now?

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Several Goblins posted:

So Couch Chat, I'm some sort of weird crazy person who has watched almost nothing but movies for my entire life. I've only seen a small handful of TV shows to completion, and a few episodes or first seasons here and there. And most of what I've watched have been recent. My girlfriend and co-workers have been telling me to catch up on stuff for forever now and I'm just now getting around to doing it. I've seen the following shows in their entirety:

Firefly
Deadwood
Westworld
Twin Peaks
Fargo
True Detective
American Gods
The Walking Dead
Legion

And uhh....that's it. I think I have a long way to go. :aaa:

If you enjoyed American Gods then there really is only one answer to this, go watch Spartacus. The original Starz over-the-top superdrama.

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

Looten Plunder posted:

How are people not excited for an HBO show in the 70s Porn Industry though? What's not to love about Sex, Drugs and Rock n Roll?

Big 70's merkins.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



SunshineDanceParty posted:

Why is The Life and Times of Tim not on HBO Now?

Generally rights issues stops a few shows from appearing, but every so often they get resolved and a show will turn up. So might just be a matter of time.

And anyone who loves Dazed and Confused really needs to see Everybody Wants Some if they haven't, it's so good.

double nine
Aug 8, 2013

MiddleOne posted:

If you enjoyed American Gods then there really is only one answer to this, go watch Spartacus. The original Starz over-the-top superdrama.

I couldn't really get into spartacus, every character seemed to be way into power abuse (the slave owner to his slaves, the city magistrate (?) to the slave owner, slaves to slaves). I get that it's about slavery so it's appropriate but does everyone keep being such sadistic bullies? I didn't keep watching because it I got too angry at the characters.

Kazzah
Jul 15, 2011

Formerly known as
Krazyface
Hair Elf
Spartacus takes about 3 eps to get good (but it gets REALLY good).

JethroMcB
Jan 23, 2004

We're normal now.
We love your family.

SunshineDanceParty posted:

Why is The Life and Times of Tim not on HBO Now?

My wild guess is that HBO had little or no ownership stake in the show, and now balks at paying licensing fees to a 3rd party for a property with such limited appeal. Warner Television developed it for Fox, who passed, and it was shopped around to other networks before independent film and TV studio MRC came in and got it to series. Both times that HBO cancelled the show MRC was able to then offer it to other outlets, including Comedy Central and Adult Swim, so I'm lead to believe that whatever deal they had with HBO wasn't exclusive or dependent on them. (MRC is also the production company behind The Ricky Gervais Show - one of the only other series conspicuously absent from HBO's streaming library.)

Of course, if HBO doesn't have the rights, that raises the question of why MRC hasn't licensed the show to ANY streaming service. There's probably some thorny story about petty showbiz infighting behind the scenes that nobody cares about because it's related to such a niche program that most people have never heard of.

JethroMcB fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Jul 12, 2017

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry

Several Goblins posted:

So Couch Chat, I'm some sort of weird crazy person who has watched almost nothing but movies for my entire life. I've only seen a small handful of TV shows to completion, and a few episodes or first seasons here and there. And most of what I've watched have been recent. My girlfriend and co-workers have been telling me to catch up on stuff for forever now and I'm just now getting around to doing it. I've seen the following shows in their entirety:

Firefly
Deadwood
Westworld
Twin Peaks
Fargo
True Detective
American Gods
The Walking Dead
Legion

And uhh....that's it. I think I have a long way to go. :aaa:
You're going to get a lot of (probably) good recommendations, and whatever I say is just going to be a drop in the bucket, but with every fiber of my being I would say the shows not on your list that absolutely should be ASAP would be Breaking Bad and The Wire, and maybe Arrested Development if you're willing to throw a comedy into the mix.

Guy Mann
Mar 28, 2016

by Lowtax
I know TVIV has a history with being infatuated with new genre shows but I feel like in the span of a few days Wynnona Earp going from a show nobody had heard of to a show multiple people are recommending as a shining example of modern television over stone-cold classics like The Sopranos and Breaking Bad has to be some kind of record.

Mameluke
Aug 2, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
If you enjoyed American Gods watch Hannibal. The same showrunner, same composer, and lots of crew and cast crossover from that show. It's gory, dreadful, confident television with Mads Mikkelsen and the occasional pitchblack joke.

Mad Men is another classic that I don't think has been brought up. It's got a massive cast of deeply flawed, wonderful characters and beautiful costuming and camerawork. It can be a little slow until you're comfortable with the characters though.

Dancer
May 23, 2011
How these dolts made so many posts and not one of them mentioned Patriot is beyond me. It was rather universally acclaimed around these parts when it was discussed. It's also fairly hard to describe. Massively depressed spy for the US government goes on a mission. There are extremely funny moments, but there's also a lot of melancholy.

Fairly similar to Patriot in some ways is also the pilot for Jean Claude Van Johnson.

The Americans is a show with a rather unique premise, amazing acting, and very strong character development. It's also extremely slow at times, and at least some people have argued that nothing interesting has happened in 2 seasons.

You should also try Penny Dreadful. It's not a *good* show, but I (and, as far as I perceived back when the thread was alive, also many others around these parts) have found it extremely enjoyable. Grimdark Victorian London with fantasy creatures, turned to 11. Every actor in it goes loving ham.

The Expanse is recent sci-fi that a lot of people seem to have liked. Some people have described it as GoT in space (I'm not sure I agree). Some characters are bad, annoying or both, some are amazing.

If hard sci-fi turns out to be your thing, there's this obscure Canadian drama called ReGenesis about a team of experts in various biological fields that deal with bioterrorism and epidemics and what-not. I'm doing my Master's in biochem and no other show that I've seen has come even close to it in terms of verisimilitude (still hard to call it "realistic", knowing the things that I know, but it tries really hard).

And finally, to go to something entirely different, if you think you might be able to enjoy a "cute" show at all, you should try Pushing Daisies. It's by Bryan Fuller (AmGods) and it's incredibly charming. Note: there are amusing moments but it's definitely not a "comedy".

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer

Mameluke posted:

If you enjoyed American Gods watch Hannibal. The same showrunner, same composer, and lots of crew and cast crossover from that show. It's gory, dreadful, confident television with Mads Mikkelsen and the occasional pitchblack joke.

Mad Men is another classic that I don't think has been brought up. It's got a massive cast of deeply flawed, wonderful characters and beautiful costuming and camerawork. It can be a little slow until you're comfortable with the characters though.

^^^^^these are both great suggestions too. also The Leftovers if you like dark stuff

there's so much good TV

like, without having to pretend a half-canadian supernatural western on syfy is the best poo poo ever

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Several Goblins posted:

Recommend poo poo to me

DRAMA
Mad Men
Breaking Bad
The Shield
Six Feet Under
SouthLAnd
Manhattan
Cracker
Love My Way

COMEDY (INCL. SATIRE, BLACK COMEDY, ECT.)
Patriot
Community
It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia
You're The Worst
Galavant
Psychoville / Inside No.9
The Office (UK) / Extras
Party Down

GENRE (FANTASY, HORROR, SCI-FI, ect.)
Carnivale
Farscape
Hannibal
Black Mirror
BrainDead
Battlestar Galactica
Banshee
Wonderfalls

Open Source Idiom fucked around with this message at 15:08 on Jul 12, 2017

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

Watch The Wire, god drat.

Cart
Sep 28, 2004

They see me rollin...

"Teach me about all the TV I've missed"
"Watch this new show on SyFy" :agesilaus:

If you're new, it's hard to look past Breaking Bad as one of the best executions in the format. If you're going deeper, watch The Wire, the Sopranos, Mad Men, The Shield, The Americans etc. If you're wanting more genre, then Lost, Battlestar Galactica, Hannibal, Justified, Spartacus, Banshee...

Really you should just catch up with Game of Thrones because it's the closest thing to a cultural zeitgeist on TV and is all people will be talking about this summer.

I'm surprised no one has gone all out on defending the Arrowverse or something yet.

sbaldrick
Jul 19, 2006
Driven by Hate

Guy Mann posted:

I know TVIV has a history with being infatuated with new genre shows but I feel like in the span of a few days Wynnona Earp going from a show nobody had heard of to a show multiple people are recommending as a shining example of modern television over stone-cold classics like The Sopranos and Breaking Bad has to be some kind of record.

Both the Sopranos and Breaking Bad aren't for everyone.

They are great shows but slow as poo poo burns.

Earp also has a poo poo ton of critical buzz among the major tv writers.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Wynnona Earp might not be for everyone either? I don't understand your post at all.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

sbaldrick posted:

Earp also has a poo poo ton of critical buzz among the major tv writers.

Neither Vox nor the Av Club are covering it, nor Hitfix, so not really...

I mean, Den Of Geek, EW and Vulture aren't nothing, but I wouldn't call it a poo poo ton of coverage. I wouldn't mind being wrong though, it's a fun show.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

It's like 3 people talking about the Earp show nobody actually cares about it.

less laughter
May 7, 2012

Accelerock & Roll

Guy Mann posted:

I know TVIV has a history with being infatuated with new genre shows but I feel like in the span of a few days Wynnona Earp going from a show nobody had heard of to a show multiple people are recommending as a shining example of modern television over stone-cold classics like The Sopranos and Breaking Bad has to be some kind of record.

The funniest part was someone recommending it despite not even having watched it yet. Talk about an echo chamber.

Celery Jello
Mar 21, 2005
Slippery Tilde

Open Source Idiom posted:

Neither Vox nor the Av Club are covering it, nor Hitfix, so not really...

I mean, Den Of Geek, EW and Vulture aren't nothing, but I wouldn't call it a poo poo ton of coverage. I wouldn't mind being wrong though, it's a fun show.

Allow me to piggyback off of this to ask: The AV Club has kind of started to go off the rails in the last year or two. Is there another site (one of these mentioned or some other) that fills the same niche AV Club did?

It feels like AV Club has been steadily culling a large chunk of regular show coverage in favor of sponsored content and wrestling liveblogs. I get they're chasing the clicks but all the cool stuff, the navelgazing listicles and My World of Flops-style journeys into weird pop culture esoterica are where my bread gets buttered - that and per-episode reviews of TV shows because I'm not smart and need someone to show me what an episode means sometimes.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Yeah AVC has really been going to poo poo since the Univision buyout especially. I tend to just read specific writers work now rather than one site, so I have bookmarks to Sepinwall's page, Todd VanDerWerff's page on Vox, etc.

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DivisionPost
Jun 28, 2006

Nobody likes you.
Everybody hates you.
You're gonna lose.

Smile, you fuck.
You know, this guy said he was fairly new to the world of TV and felt a little overwhelmed by how much was out there, so of course you all respond by burying him under 9 billion hours for him to watch, most of which were just generalized recommendations and not really tailored to the shows he said he enjoyed. Seriously, how do you look at that list and spit out Mad Men or The Wire? Yes, they're god-tier shows and he should get around to them at some point, but based on the list he gave, they don't seem to have any immediate appeal to him, so why pile that on?

I looked at the list, I threw out a few shows he would enjoy and told him why he'd enjoy them, and I also threw in Friday Night Lights, with the caveat that it was nothing like the shows he'd watched before, and that he could put the first episode in his back pocket whenever he was up for something different. And once he gets through them, yeah, we can talk about the glass-grade stuff; your Breaking Bads, your Mad Mens, your Sopranos...es, your Wires, the stuff you have to be a little more experienced to fully appreciate (though admittedly less so for BB, which is a straight-up rollicking crime thriller).

Until then, let's walk the guy through instead of just shoving him down the media pit.

EDIT

less laughter posted:

The funniest part was someone recommending it despite not even having watched it yet. Talk about an echo chamber.

I saw the first episode, kinda enjoyed it, not enough that I needed to see more right away. But a lot of people I respect talk it up, and what I've seen lines up pretty well with Firefly, so why not?

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