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Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

BWV posted:

It also sounds like Bill is the worst employee ever. He basically said he complained constantly about bad leadership

I mean, I think John Skipper is directly responsible for much of ESPN's problems, but the last person anyone should take advice from is loving Simmons.

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DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


I will always love that he spent months daring ESPN to fire him, then was shocked when they did

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

DJExile posted:

I will always love that he spent months daring ESPN to fire him, then was shocked when they did

That was the best part. I mean, he knew that Skipper hated him with the fury of a blazing sun, and yet he still went out of his way to antagonize him.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

Peanut President posted:

From pages ago but how mad are rugby people that they're on the same channel with American Handegg and Pro Wrestling?

sporting synergy or something, though none of those share a competing timeslot, so it works

ElwoodCuse
Jan 11, 2004

we're puttin' the band back together

DJExile posted:

I will always love that he spent months daring ESPN to fire him, then was shocked when they did

There's a TV news graphic that makes the rounds

MAN WHO GOT STABBED: "What are you going to do, stab me?"

Arnold Layne
Nov 4, 2008

https://twitter.com/LeBatardShow/status/885593560757792768

Curt Schilling has a thought or two.

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

ElwoodCuse posted:

There's a TV news graphic that makes the rounds

MAN WHO GOT STABBED: "What are you going to do, stab me?"

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost
reminds me of

quote:

Niyiah McConnell, 33, a Mattapan woman who works in the area, said she was smoking a cigarette when the man pulled up in his car and asked her to “play the ax song.”

“I asked him, excuse me, what song?” she said. “And he pulled out a big loving ax and put it back in his hand like he was about to throw it at me.”

The man then said, “I want them to play the ax song,” McConnell said.

Akileese
Feb 6, 2005

Timby posted:

I mean, I think John Skipper is directly responsible for much of ESPN's problems, but the last person anyone should take advice from is loving Simmons.

I think he was right about California though to an extent. You're not going to attract anyone in Bristol Connecticut. I'm from Connecticut and I've been to Bristol. It's nothing but Cows and that giant ESPN campus. At the same time, you can't just write that place off as a sunk cost.

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011


This was posted on Deadspin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WmMj4lfpdc

Anals of History
Jul 29, 2003


As does new brother-in-arms Michael Rapaport: https://twitter.com/MichaelRapaport/status/885597337921347584

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Akileese posted:

I think he was right about California though to an extent. You're not going to attract anyone in Bristol Connecticut. I'm from Connecticut and I've been to Bristol. It's nothing but Cows and that giant ESPN campus. At the same time, you can't just write that place off as a sunk cost.

He was right about California (sort of like how so many bigger stars would do appearances on The Tonight Show instead of Late Show, because Tonight Show was in LA), but, my God, he did not have to sign off on that juggernaut of a studio they have there, as well as the additional improvements that have happened. And Skipper was basically writing the "we're coming to you from LA" inserts in the shows, because he felt the need to show off that they were in downtown. It's ridiculously easy to fabricate remote appearances as being on-desk (I mean, the the Clayton commercial even made light of that), which means you can get pretty much any on-air talent as long as they're willing to toss up a $50 green screen in a room in their house and send them a $300 Canon handheld.

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012


Who are the people that like him, and barstool sports?

I've also yet to understand why barstool sports is a thing and why they've gained in popularity. Come to think of it? I've yet to understand why boston dominates in terms of bringing so many sports talks types to life.

Adun
Apr 15, 2001

Publicola
Fun Shoe

FuzzySkinner posted:

Who are the people that like him, and barstool sports?

I've also yet to understand why barstool sports is a thing and why they've gained in popularity. Come to think of it? I've yet to understand why boston dominates in terms of bringing so many sports talks types to life.

I assume there are others like me who subscribe to Pardon My Take but have never been the Barstool Sports website

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Getting started in Boston is easy.

Step one: Fellate any of the big four teams, more so Pats or Sox.
Step two: say questionable poo poo, especially in regards to race. The more of a dog whistle the better.
Step three: ???
Step four: PROFIT

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

Adun posted:

I assume there are others like me who subscribe to Pardon My Take but have never been the Barstool Sports website

I can understand the appeal of pardon my take and pftcommentator.

But the rest....goddamn, what a bunch of loudmouths.

ElwoodCuse
Jan 11, 2004

we're puttin' the band back together

FuzzySkinner posted:

I've also yet to understand why barstool sports is a thing and why they've gained in popularity.

When civilized society has figured out you're an rear end in a top hat, you need to find other assholes to be an rear end in a top hat with. Plus you can tell each other that it's *everyone else* who is wrong.

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




FuzzySkinner posted:

Who are the people that like him, and barstool sports?

I've also yet to understand why barstool sports is a thing and why they've gained in popularity. Come to think of it? I've yet to understand why boston dominates in terms of bringing so many sports talks types to life.

Are you from the East Coast? Were you in a fraternity, or grew up with a bit of money in your family? Do you currently work in finance, sales, or a related profession? Then boy howdy do I have a site for you!

(I only read it because their main hockey guy is quite good.)

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

Troy Queef posted:

Are you from the East Coast? Were you in a fraternity, or grew up with a bit of money in your family? Do you currently work in finance, sales, or a related profession? Then boy howdy do I have a site for you!

(I only read it because their main hockey guy is quite good.)

I just can remember their "president" trying to heckle LeBron James, and one of their fans being pissed that a poster of LeBron was being put up at a Dunkin Donuts coffee shop in China.

That and Rappaport doxxing people on twitter like a sociopath.. I'm more on the Dan LeBetard side of things I guess. He has imperfections, but he seems to enjoy mocking those with poo poo takes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCb5Ji6ueQ8

soggybagel
Aug 6, 2006
The official account of NFL Tackle Phil Loadholt.

Let's talk Football.
Thing to remember is barstool has kind of become a go to landing site for young guys. It's perceived as funny so a young 16 year old guy is going to eat their dumb poo poo up. Plus they post pics of "smoke shows" and they do post general pop culture poo poo too. They have podcasts with porn stars and all that stuff that appeals to a young horny male. Then you just stay with the site into college and so on. Believe me, I work with "adult" men who are beyond idiotic.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

soggybagel posted:

Thing to remember is barstool has kind of become a go to landing site for young guys. It's perceived as funny so a young 16 year old guy is going to eat their dumb poo poo up. Plus they post pics of "smoke shows" and they do post general pop culture poo poo too. They have podcasts with porn stars and all that stuff that appeals to a young horny male. Then you just stay with the site into college and so on. Believe me, I work with "adult" men who are beyond idiotic.

So Maxim: The Sports Site?

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



El Gallinero Gros posted:

So Maxim: The Sports Site?

That sounds about right, yeah.

I mean, there's a clear market for it, so different strokes for different folks and all that.

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

soggybagel posted:

Thing to remember is barstool has kind of become a go to landing site for young guys. It's perceived as funny so a young 16 year old guy is going to eat their dumb poo poo up. Plus they post pics of "smoke shows" and they do post general pop culture poo poo too. They have podcasts with porn stars and all that stuff that appeals to a young horny male. Then you just stay with the site into college and so on. Believe me, I work with "adult" men who are beyond idiotic.

Yeah I guess I don't run in that general circle?

Like my friend whom I think they'd try to target with it listens to things like Rogan and the like. My other friend listens to NPR of all things.

I guess I'm blessed.

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost
I listen to podcasts by a 40 year old audiophile with poor pattern recognition.

Anals of History
Jul 29, 2003

Kalli posted:

That sounds about right, yeah.

I mean, there's a clear market for it, so different strokes for different folks and all that.

That, and the dudes who insult others about being sensitive and needing safe spaces increasingly need their own safe spaces.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

exploded mummy posted:

I listen to podcasts by a 40 year old audiophile with poor pattern recognition.

So it's you who listens to Bill Simmons

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

:homebrew::homebrew::homebrew:

Pardon My Take is the best podcast

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene
Friendliest people and the prettiest women you've ever seen
𝅘𝅥𝅮
AT&T SportsNet's new website is somehow worse than the old Root Sports one

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

C. Everett Koop posted:

So it's you who listens to Bill Simmons

I said audiophile, not wirefile.

Vertical Lime
Dec 11, 2004

https://twitter.com/RichSandomir/status/886706610675920896

maybe it's only of interest to me but he was a staple on local cable and he had one hell of a career

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

Well AT&T turns things into poo poo what a shocker

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


Crazy Ted posted:

Well AT&T turns things into poo poo what a shocker

Their new scorebug for baseball is gigantic too

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
The Mariners bought a controlling stake in ROOT Sports Northwest, so we're sticking with that name while the rest of the nation rebrands to AT&T.

I'm actually kinda nostalgic for the days of weird local broadcasts airing your local teams. Before ROOT and FSN, we up here in the Pacific Northwest had Prime Sports Northwest, which had exactly zero ambitions about anything but showing M's games. It was a comically low-budget production, but as a kid you can't help but feel a connection to the channel being "one of us, talking about our crappy team." Prime got bought out by Fox Sports and we had FSN Northwest for a while, which kept the same announcers but didn't feel the same. More corporate, more generic with the "Fox Sports baseball music" we already heard on every national broadcast. I kept watching, but it never felt the same for years on end.

Then FSN Northwest eventually spun off into ROOT Sports Northwest, and as corny as the production got, it was the first time in years where I felt like the channel truly belonged to "us," just the idiot fans tuning into lovely M's baseball every night, hearing Dave Sims and Mike Blowers tell the same stories. It really felt like that local flavor again, the kind of bizarrely compelling TV you can only get from a shoestring local broadcast covering a crappy team every day. It actually kinda got me back into the M's even though they still sucked.

Elitist Bitch
Sep 13, 2007



I had hoped that the combo of the M's and DirecTV owning Root would have meant that we could get it on DirecTV Now. I live in the "home area" for the M's for MLB.tv purposes (which is three freaking states btw) but my only option for getting Root is paying $120/month for some crazy satellite package that I can't get anyway because I live in an apartment. They're loveable losers, but they're not that loveable.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene
Friendliest people and the prettiest women you've ever seen
𝅘𝅥𝅮
Yeah, I don't know why DirecTV Now doesn't have any of the AT&T Sports Networks, considering they both have the same parent company.

Vertical Lime
Dec 11, 2004

golic and wingo officially starts november 27th

the last mike and mike is november 17th

http://deadspin.com/mike-finds-new-mike-named-trey-1796985689

Niwrad
Jul 1, 2008

straight up brolic posted:

Pardon My Take is the best podcast

It really is. I avoided it for awhile because I never cared about Barstool but it seems completely different from that brand. It's basically the Daily Show but for sports. Just a parody of traditional sports media. Their loving with JJ Watt for a year culminated in a pretty cool interview.

https://twitter.com/PardonMyTake/status/886905458581221376
https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/886982599549231104

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene
Friendliest people and the prettiest women you've ever seen
𝅘𝅥𝅮
I was looking at the TV schedule for college football, and holy poo poo FS2 has a live game! And they're both FBS teams! People in Appalachia get FS2, right?

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


AA continues to be fantastic in their investigations on Jamie Horowitz. They got a video of his presentation of his vision for FS as a whole. You can see what he was trying to get at, and he's really not wrong about what audiences are being drawn to... and then...


quote:

But primarily we think that credibility tends to be from writers. Skip has a long career as a writer to complement other networks. Kornheiser and Wilbon made their careers as writers. Basically all those guys on Around the Horn are writers.

:ironicat:

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iospace
Jan 19, 2038


DJExile posted:

AA continues to be fantastic in their investigations on Jamie Horowitz. They got a video of his presentation of his vision for FS as a whole. You can see what he was trying to get at, and he's really not wrong about what audiences are being drawn to... and then...


:ironicat:

When was the last time Skip sat down and actually wrote an article? All the ATH dudes still write regularly.

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